An Analysis on the 144,000 in Revelation

[Carry_Your_Name]

Thank you.
Yes indeed, it perfectly defines you as resisting the 5 wise virgins as the bride of Christ.

1) are the 10 virgins virgins?
....yes
2) are they " bridesmaids" ....no
3) are half worthy, half unworthy?...yes
AHEM...did not Jesus say " pray that you may be counted WORTHY to escape the things about to come up on the Earth and stand for the son of God?".... Yes
4) did the worthy ones go into the marriage chamber with Jesus?...yes
5) is the bride of Christ VIRGINS? YES!!!!
6) Are non committed, carnal, non consecrated, pew sitters the bride of Christ? ....no
7) who benefits from changing Gods word concerning the rapture( Jesus coming for his bride ), into a abstract and indirect co event of meeting horses in the sky , therefore NEEDING the virgins to NOT POSSIBlY BE THE BRIDE?
DO POSTRIBBERS. benefit?.....definitely.
8) you have managed to make , Jesus coming for his bride, into "bridesmaids" ( rolleyes...what in the world are they????) That are waiting for Jesus, with Jesus gathering them, taking them with him INTO A MARRIAGE ROOM WITH A DOOR, .....( ahem, the rapture)
But it CANNOT POSSIBLY BE JESUS GATHERING HIS BRIDE?????

YEP!!!!! EXTREMELY BIZARRE and reckless.
Changing a vivid depiction for your belief system.

Whew....horrible.
It is really disgusting.

Man, aren't you tired of trolling? The word for "virgin" in original Hebrew text was "alma", which actually means a young woman - who was just assumed to be virgin in the ancient culture. Whether they were braidmaids or not, they had a job to welcome the groom at night. Keep your false narrative to yourself, I hope is in Christ's salvation, not a snappy "rapture'.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

you did not answer his question.

That is because the 144k can not be found to be "missionaries".
You made that up.

I gave an answer from the scripture. You scoff at it, that's your problem. There're a lot of verses like this one that suggests that they're gonna rise and prophesy, but there's definitely none that suggests they're gonna be "raptured" in your pretty little pet narrative.

 

[Absolutely]

Man, aren't you tired of trolling? The word for "virgin" in original Hebrew text was "alma", which actually means a young woman - who was just assumed to be virgin in the ancient culture. Whether they were braidmaids or not, they had a job to welcome the groom at night. Keep your false narrative to yourself, I hope is in Christ's salvation, not a snappy "rapture'.

My postbwas articulate , on topic, and blew your deal away with FACTS.
100% LEGIT, AND introduced not only the true facts but exposed you reframing of the bible.

Keep your false narrative to yourself

Ok , you made the claim, show me EXACTLY what is false.

NO HYPER GENERALIZING AND DEFLECTING...show me EXACTLY what is false.

 

[Absolutely]

I gave an answer from the scripture. You scoff at it, that's your problem. There're a lot of verses like this one that suggests that they're gonna rise and prophesy, but there's definitely none that suggests they're gonna be "raptured" in your pretty little pet narrative.

He asked you specifically about them being missionaries.​

Answer it directly.

Lol
You cant, so you go on these little trails to cover your blunder.

 

[kleronomos]

lol.. That does not take into account the people from the northern kingdom who came to judah and made their home there.

The Sameritans where the ones who stayed and mixed with the pagan and took on their Gods..

But remember. King david had a gentile mother.. Most likely there are no pure jews today. Even Jesus himself, the son of David, carried in him gentile blood.

Was there a Judah 'to come to' when they came out of the Assyrian Captivity? Hadn't Judah gone into captivity and Cyrus not let them go back to build the temple yet?

 

[Absolutely]

Man, aren't you tired of trolling? The word for "virgin" in original Hebrew text was "alma", which actually means a young woman - who was just assumed to be virgin in the ancient culture. Whether they were braidmaids or not, they had a job to welcome the groom at night. Keep your false narrative to yourself, I hope is in Christ's salvation, not a snappy "rapture'.

Lol
At the time ALL YOUNG unmarried WOMEN WERE VIRGINS.
But you can probably use the 2% or so "lose girls" to try and make your need for it to mean something else fit


What you do is ridiculous.

 

[Oblio]

The Lord exiled the northern kingdom because they had rejected Him, and instead were worshipping idols and demons. See 2 Kings ch 17.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Lol
At the time ALL YOUNG unmarried WOMEN WERE VIRGINS.
But you can probably use the 2% or so "lose girls" to try and make your need for it to mean something else fit


What you do is ridiculous.

At the time? What are you? A time traveler? Go find somebody else to play your word games. I'm not interested at V card and I've never intended to go there.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

He asked you specifically about them being missionaries.​

Answer it directly.

Lol
You cant, so you go on these little trails to cover your blunder.

They "sang a new song", and "in their mouths found no deceit", and then right after that in 14:6 there's an angel with "everlasting gospel," all of these indicate they're preaching. How do you know they're not then? You can't.

 

[Absolutely]

I gave an answer from the scripture. You scoff at it, that's your problem. There're a lot of verses like this one that suggests that they're gonna rise and prophesy, but there's definitely none that suggests they're gonna be "raptured" in your pretty little pet narrative.

Just show us your research that the 144k are indeed missionaries.

You are wasting so many sentences, trying desperately NOT to back up your claim

You go all over the place, trying to deflect

 

[Oblio]

Ding, ding! Round 2, at BDF FiteNite!

 

[kleronomos]

Man, aren't you tired of trolling? The word for "virgin" in original Hebrew text was "alma", which actually means a young woman - who was just assumed to be virgin in the ancient culture. Whether they were braidmaids or not, they had a job to welcome the groom at night. Keep your false narrative to yourself, I hope is in Christ's salvation, not a snappy "rapture'.

I personally have found it to go much better when all I see at the bottom of a page is "show ignored content". Peace instantly returned. And if ever I feel the need for a little 'persecution' I hit those words and that page will show up. I read a few words of the comment, get my fill, change the page and move on. What happens after that is 'fruit' for a witness. I leave it in Gods hands.

 

[Absolutely]

At the time? What are you? A time traveler? Go find somebody else to play your word games. I'm not interested at V card and I've never intended to go there.

Actually your word "alma" is most likely from the hebrew.
But it hit me that that word "virgin" that you need to be bridesmaids, is the same word used in mat for "VIRGIN MARY"


WOW...WHAT A QUANDARY Trying TO REFRAME THE BIBLE LIKE YOU DO.

WHEW....I would not even dream of placing myself in such a pitiful position

 

[Absolutely]

They "sang a new song", and "in their mouths found no deceit", and then right after that in 14:6 there's an angel with "everlasting gospel," all of these indicate they're preaching. How do you know they're not then? You can't.

ANGELS PREACHING makes the 144k missionaries????

Oh man....hilarious!!!!!

 

[kleronomos]

I'm not sure what you think this means. Can we agree that regardless of who someone is then there is no way to God except through Christ? Everyone else perishes?

100 percent agree with the only way 'to' is 'through'.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

100 percent agree with the only way 'to' is 'through'.

Through the one and only true Christ, not any charlatans who'll pop up at the end times.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

The flesh


I guess you never read the Gospels and the Apostles Letters.

This is all you have?

If it is the church, You don;t have to say 12000 from all different tribes

You just say there is 144000 who will be sealed. and do not mentione 12 tribes at all.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Truth is nonsense to you?

So there is a pre-trib rapture bibe?

You do not believe the words of Christ and His Apostles?

We find humility when we submit out hearts, minds and souls unto Christ = to believe His words over man, religion, politics and unbelief.

Saying we should look in a non existent bible and mocking another belief system is not being humble it is being arrogant.

You need to look in the mirror my friend

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Semantics matter in this case, because in the time of Christ, only those from the southern kingdom of Judah were Jews, the ten tribes from the northern kingdom had never been Jews to begin with. Maybe some of them ended up as Samaritans, but none of them were "Jews", so "It did not matter what tribe you came from. You were called jew," that's a false statement by biblical definition.

A tree is known by its fruits. 23andMe ain't gonna help identify who they are, only by their testimony and character will they be known, that's all that matters in the eyes of God. and that's what we should really focus on.

lol.. Anyone who lived in the southern kingdom. No matter what tribe they belonged to. Would be called a jew.

Your right, a tree is known by their fruits. But this conversation is not about that, It is about who are the 144000

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Was there a Judah 'to come to' when they came out of the Assyrian Captivity? Hadn't Judah gone into captivity and Cyrus not let them go back to build the temple yet?

They have not come out of the assyria to this day.

Only the southern land was returned. After they were exiled to babylon.