Is the Vaccine the Mark of the Beast (MOTB)?

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Jesusfollower

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  • mRNA is different than DNA
  • There is no scientific studies to prove the claim the vaccine modifies your DNA
  • The vaccine is not the mark as scripture tells us the mark will be ordered by the antichrist (where is the antichrist?)
  • The Mark will be the digits 666 on either the forehead or wrists. Scripture is quite clear on this.
  • We are not in tribulation otherwise who is the antichrist that came forth out of the sea or gentile nations?
  • Vaccines scientifically short term studies seem to help the major of people who have not had the virus. Long term is still a question.
  • Natural immunity now has a major study showing it to be more effective
  • Also studies to show masks are terrible at stopping the virus. 3ply cloth surgical masks only at 9% while N95 at 40 to 60% in a lab setting.

Sorry but;

Pfizer mRNA vaccine goes into liver and changes into DNA, Swedish study finds



April 28, 2022NYCBC

The research was conducted at Lund University
As published in Prothema

A new Swedish study published in MDPI found that the Pfizer vaccine goes into liver cells and converts to DNA, challenging claims so far that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way.

we are not in the tribulation but are getting there really fast please check the WEF websites and see what they are about, the global elites want to control everything.

The covid vaccines using mRNA are an abomination and corrupt the human genome, I beleive they are developing the mark of the beast, please see the patent no WO 2020060606 here is the link; initially the patent was labeled WO060606 they added 2020 and A1 at the end later....

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2020060606A1/en

we are in the end times, prepare.

Good reading,

Blessings,

JF
 

Roughsoul1991

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Sorry but;

Pfizer mRNA vaccine goes into liver and changes into DNA, Swedish study finds



April 28, 2022NYCBC

The research was conducted at Lund University
As published in Prothema

A new Swedish study published in MDPI found that the Pfizer vaccine goes into liver cells and converts to DNA, challenging claims so far that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way.

we are not in the tribulation but are getting there really fast please check the WEF websites and see what they are about, the global elites want to control everything.

The covid vaccines using mRNA are an abomination and corrupt the human genome, I beleive they are developing the mark of the beast, please see the patent no WO 2020060606 here is the link; initially the patent was labeled WO060606 they added 2020 and A1 at the end later....

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2020060606A1/en

we are in the end times, prepare.

Good reading,

Blessings,

JF
Counter research shows limitations on the interpretation of this study. For example,


What are key limitations of the study?

MR: One should consider that cell lines differ from cells in living organisms, and therefore it is important that similar investigations are also studied in humans.

It is important to bear in mind that the liver cells in this study are more genetically unstable than our own liver cells.

YDM: One of the limitations of our study is that we don't know if what we observed in this cell line could also happen in cells of other tissue types, and this needs to be addressed in follow-up studies.

These findings were observed in petri dishes under experimental conditions, but we do not yet know if the converted DNA is integrated into the cells' DNA in the genome—and if so, if it has any consequences.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-03-pfizer-biontech-covid-vaccine-affects-human.html

Biblically the Mark is a literal mark and a number on either the forehead or wrist. Scripture is clear on that.

We have been in the end times since the time of the apostles. We have always needed to stay prepared.

What are you preparing for though is the question?

Are you preparing for the pre-trib rapture, mid-trib, or post-trib rapture?

Do you know how to prepare? What must you do to prepare for salvation?
 

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Counter research shows limitations on the interpretation of this study. For example,


What are key limitations of the study?

MR: One should consider that cell lines differ from cells in living organisms, and therefore it is important that similar investigations are also studied in humans.

It is important to bear in mind that the liver cells in this study are more genetically unstable than our own liver cells.

YDM: One of the limitations of our study is that we don't know if what we observed in this cell line could also happen in cells of other tissue types, and this needs to be addressed in follow-up studies.

These findings were observed in petri dishes under experimental conditions, but we do not yet know if the converted DNA is integrated into the cells' DNA in the genome—and if so, if it has any consequences.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-03-pfizer-biontech-covid-vaccine-affects-human.html

Biblically the Mark is a literal mark and a number on either the forehead or wrist. Scripture is clear on that.

We have been in the end times since the time of the apostles. We have always needed to stay prepared.

What are you preparing for though is the question?

Are you preparing for the pre-trib rapture, mid-trib, or post-trib rapture?

Do you know how to prepare? What must you do to prepare for salvation?
All cells of the human body contain reverse transcriptase the mRNA can be incorporated in the DNA. I have worked with mRNA before I know where and how to find it in the DNA.

prepare for the coming Kingdom it is at hand. i do not know of this pre trib post trib or whatever you call it i just know the end is near.

JF
 

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This story is amazing in how reminiscent it is of the story in Numbers


If this is a true story about snake venom, who would ever imagined it?

Maybe we need a modern day version of Moses and the serpent?

I hope God sends us a prophet soon, because we need one.


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Jesusfollower

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I'm sure you mean well. But you are just plain wrong. You are entitled to your opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts.

What do you know about graphene? Obviously, nothing. If you did, you'd know that one of the leading researchers in graphene is born again Christian Professor James Tour. Graphene is totally inert and harmless to any life form. It's just a form of carbon, no more harmful than burnt toast.

mRNA:

"DNA, which makes up our genetic code, is larger, double stranded and very long. The mRNA is a single stranded copy of a small part of the DNA, which is often released to send instructions to other parts of the cell.

DNA is stored in the protected centre of our cells – the nucleus. The mRNA is broken down quickly by the body. It never enters the nucleus, and cannot affect or combine with our DNA in any way to change our genetic code."

You say that Satan did not give Eve any disclosures. God had already warned Adam and Eve. Their sin was disobedience. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Mark of the Beast is remotely like a vaccine. It will be on the hand of the forehead, obviously visible. Unbelievers who are already deceived will receive the mark. Those who know God and His word will refuse it. They will be killed.

I've had the first jab. It was in my upper arm, not my forehead or my hand. I know God and I know Jesus. I do not serve any man and I do not worship anyone but Lord Jesus and God.

I suggest that you do some research for assembling a collection of false statements and interpreting scripture by them. At best you look foolish, at worst you lead someone else astray. There are enough real problems for Christians to deal with without someone making them up.
Hello Gideon,

mRNA can incorporate into the DNA here is a link;

https://www.jefferson.edu/about/new...man-cells-can-write-rna-sequences-to-dna.html

I do not blame anyone for not knowing this fact is somewhat recent.
Blessings,

JF
 

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All cells of the human body contain reverse transcriptase the mRNA can be incorporated in the DNA. I have worked with mRNA before I know where and how to find it in the DNA.

prepare for the coming Kingdom it is at hand. i do not know of this pre trib post trib or whatever you call it i just know the end is near.

JF
The apostles thought the end was near. I know we are closer but no one knows how close.
 
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Why would you chance it? The mark in your arm is to close to the predictions in Revelation. It would be like Eve playing with the forbidden fruit, but not actually eating it (yet). Why would you?
And also why take a jab that knowingly alters your God given DNA, and doesn't benefit in any way, only causes harm.
It is so obvious it is sinister, involving coercing the whole world to take it.
 

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I think we can now say the jab is not the mark of the beast, it is when everyone was bitten of serpents and going to die in the wilderness.

So then what does it mean to lift up the bronze serpent? Could that be another reference to the rapture?

Look at that story, they were bitten because they complained about the Manna. That is what the apostasy is, people complaining about the Bible. What better way to cure people of this disease of the apostasy thinking God's word is a bunch of old stories not relevant to today than by them seeing the rapture?

The rapture is of "the church", the lampstand. So then what is the lampstand? It is gold (God's nature), the light is from the oil being burned, that is the Holy Spirit. It is a corporate expression of God's people in whom God lives and the Spirit is shining out of them. OK, but what about their sinful flesh? Some of these people were felons, they were rude, crude, and had every sin there is. Well that sinful flesh has been crucified with Christ and it is no longer they that live but Christ lives within them. So then another way to look at the church is a congregation of the redeemed who like Jesus were crucified to hang on a pole, their flesh has been judged, hence it is a bronze serpent. So then what would happen if the whole world were to see this church "lifted up"? Perhaps that will cure them of the "apostasy" and they would repent and return to the Lord, the incarnated word of God.
 
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If you have been a christian for more than a decade you will see a pattern. There is always some new conspiracy concerning something we must avoid as it might be the mark of the beast.

Rev 13 does not read like that. It is a judgment upon those who worship the image. They will be killed if they don't worship the image. When it happens people will not have a choice. Those believers who refuse will be killed. It seems like a lot of wasted energy trying to follow each new conspiracy about the mark as though it is something that people take by mistake.

However, if the vaccine is safe and keeps people from dying and you scare them into not taking it and they die that is probably going to be a sin too. If they ask you to worship an image then run. If not, get the vaccine and get your family immunized before you loose one of them and regret it for the rest of your miserable life. (what I mean, is that the rest of your life would be miserable because of that burden of regret)
But we know the vaccine is Not safe, they're are thousands to testify that, who have lost loved ones, and people who have serious long term side effects, all for something that gives no protection, we all know it is Not a vaccine. There will be no burden of regret.
 
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But that is like being in a burning building sitting at a table and saying "we do not know the long term effects of fire extinguishers"

We know that the vaccines save lives. We have proof. We know that they are safe. We have proof. We do know that there have never been long term adverse affects of any vaccine and there is no plausible scientific theory that suggests there will be one with these that are being used even the mRNA since they all result in your own immune system creating the antibodies and there has never been any long term adverse affect of that causing problems in the history of vaccines.
Are you for real???? There is no proof that they are safe, and they are not vaccines, they are gene therapy called vaccines so as to get people to take them. They cause harm and death, take a relook at the apalling evidence out there.
 

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Are you for real???? There is no proof that they are safe, and they are not vaccines, they are gene therapy called vaccines so as to get people to take them. They cause harm and death, take a relook at the apalling evidence out there.
I just heard Naomi Wolf say that there is no evidence that the vaccine is harmful to pregnant women in all the studies that Pfizer did and the reason is that they did not test it on pregnant women. They tested it on pregnant rats and then for some reason decided to stop that studies at that point. So anyone who says they shouldn't have mandated it to pregnant women without evidence that it was safe and effective at least they can say there was no evidence that it wasn't (other than the studies on rats).
 
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I just heard Naomi Wolf say that there is no evidence that the vaccine is harmful to pregnant women in all the studies that Pfizer did and the reason is that they did not test it on pregnant women. They tested it on pregnant rats and then for some reason decided to stop that studies at that point. So anyone who says they shouldn't have mandated it to pregnant women without evidence that it was safe and effective at least they can say there was no evidence that it wasn't (other than the studies on rats).
I read somewhere recently (maybe from the Pfizer's disclosed documents), that there were a good number of pregnant women - about 100 - in one of the trials. By the end of the trial, there were about 23 left (presumably, the others dropped out due to ill health effects). Out of the 23 remaining, only one live child was born.

It's hard to know what the truth is, and the above article may have been fake, but in the absence of data (because Pfizer knows it is bad and so won't make it public), I believe it is safe to assume the absolute worst.
 
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I dont believe the vaccine is the mark simply because children are all having to get it because their parents are forcing them to. I mean kids down to the age of five. So are they all going to be damned to hell because of it? Once you take the mark, there is no going back and if innocent children have received the vaccine through no choice of their own I cannot see it being the mark. In my state we were all forced to.
 
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The vaccine tints the blood,and with it, the water,followed by the slowly fading spirit
It is a form of the mark of the beast.The real mark is the carnal,worldly mind.Just like how God sets his mark on you when he makes peace with you,(mark of the dove)
You are given the mark of the beast while you refuse to leave the world behind.

The serpent has taken the blood once before when he tempted Eve(blood).She is made in the image of the New Covenant.Her name means 'Life'
Adam(water) is in the image of the Old Covenant and he fell just after Eve.

The vaccine is the Abomination that causes desolation.
The of Abomination of desolation is when people sit themselves in the temple and proclaim themselves God.
Your body is the temple, and is also in the image of the Ark of the Covenant.If you rather do desires of the flesh, and live in the flesh, and not of the spirit,You are sitting yourself in the temple and proclaiming yourself as God.

There's still time for people who have taken the vaccine to repent for defiling the temple, and get right with God.
Just look at Genesis again when God covered Adam and Eve with the skins of a animal.(blood)
If you want to be like the people during the time of Noah,you'll die in the flood (Rev 11, Rev 14)

Those who rather take their chances, and think they can have the best of both worlds will be like King Nebuchadnezzar, and become like wild beasts at Gods appointed time.
They will be filled with Nephilim spirits and like the serpent in the garden, eat 'dust.'
People.They will murder, and eat people.We are from the dust/dirt.

If you were a luke warm Christian and thought you were on fire for the Lord,you likely wont even acknowledge the blood,water and the spirit is leaving you.

I wouldn't doubt there will be another form of the mark as well,in the near future.
 
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When I say you are in the image of the Ark of the Covenant,Your legs and arms are the poles that are used to carry the Ark.The heart is the mercy seat.If you follow your own heart of stone,you are sitting on the mercy seat defiling the Temple.
 

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The vaccine tints the blood,and with it, the water,followed by the slowly fading spirit
It is a form of the mark of the beast.The real mark is the carnal,worldly mind.Just like how God sets his mark on you when he makes peace with you,(mark of the dove)
You are given the mark of the beast while you refuse to leave the world behind.

The serpent has taken the blood once before when he tempted Eve(blood).She is made in the image of the New Covenant.Her name means 'Life'
Adam(water) is in the image of the Old Covenant and he fell just after Eve.

The vaccine is the Abomination that causes desolation.
The of Abomination of desolation is when people sit themselves in the temple and proclaim themselves God.
Your body is the temple, and is also in the image of the Ark of the Covenant.If you rather do desires of the flesh, and live in the flesh, and not of the spirit,You are sitting yourself in the temple and proclaiming yourself as God.

There's still time for people who have taken the vaccine to repent for defiling the temple, and get right with God.
Just look at Genesis again when God covered Adam and Eve with the skins of a animal.(blood)
If you want to be like the people during the time of Noah,you'll die in the flood (Rev 11, Rev 14)

Those who rather take their chances, and think they can have the best of both worlds will be like King Nebuchadnezzar, and become like wild beasts at Gods appointed time.
They will be filled with Nephilim spirits and like the serpent in the garden, eat 'dust.'
People.They will murder, and eat people.We are from the dust/dirt.

If you were a luke warm Christian and thought you were on fire for the Lord,you likely wont even acknowledge the blood,water and the spirit is leaving you.

I wouldn't doubt there will be another form of the mark as well,in the near future.
Very interesting what you wrote, I agree that the vaccine is absolutely an abomination, just like the days of Noah the nephillim polluted the human genome by copulating with humans, again this vaccine is incorporating in the human genome ( now a proven fact) again we see a rise of hatred misfits good turned into wrong and wrong doing seen ad good...

I remember clearly when the covid vaccines were first turned out, that many people told that they no longer "felt" GOD!!, it is making me rethink that perhaps you could be right.

All the top scientists and I agree with them, say that this fall, we will have a record number of cases and deaths and hospitalizations due to variants caused by the vaccines ( Dr, Luc Montaigner Nobel prize confirmed this fact) then i see that they will force a vaccine passport for all in what form i do not know but it could be the mark.

THE ELITES ( WHO, WEF AND ALL THE SATANISTS ) running most of the world governments, are working on a device ( card but probably an implant) that will combine direct payment methods, vaccine, health info and ID info probably also will become a passport, an integrated chip with an unique number to control us, destroy us, I see this coming soon. they have started beta testing this in Sweden and Italy in one town.

I know that the time is near prepare....



Blessings,

JF
 

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There are some posts here .. forgive me not trying to offend but a movie with Steve Martin comes to mind where him and his wife were fighting he says to her lol "can we come back from la la land now". Its just for me some facts being left out. Well seems Israel and GOD and worship.. things like this should be at the top of all this. Since this thread has just went south.. lol.