You have said water baptism is necessary for the remission of sins aside from having faith.
If one's sins are not remitted due to not being dunked, how could they be saved?
If one is not saved by faith alone in Christ alone, if one needs to be dunked to
receive the remission of sins promised through faith in the shedding of the
righteous blood of Christ, then many other Scriptures are denied and contradicted.
“You have said water baptism is necessary for the remission of sins aside from having faith.”
no I have said water baptism was established in the gospel by God for remission of sins and faith is why we do it ,
it’s an act of faith is my position we believe and so we get baptized again clearly I didn’t write those scriptures I’m just sharing that the exist with you and agreeing with what they say.
“If one's sins are not remitted due to not being dunked, how could they be saved?”
again this is not what I’ve said
I’ve said that God established baptism for remission of sins in water , and I accept that as the right form of baptism.
I’ve also shown you many scriptures showing that baptism for remission was done just before Jesus came , during his ministry and after his resurrection. I’ve also shared the great commission when he tells them “ go baptize all
Nations in my name “ and “ preach the gospel whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved “
you keep attributing these sayings to me , it’s scripture for instance Jesus said this
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
those are the words of the Risen lord Jesus , and again
“Go ye therefore, and
teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:19-20
those aren’t my own inventions I’m just saying it’s true and relevant because that’s what Jesus said or another example this is the apostle peters words just after he received the Holy Ghost at pentocost
“Then Peter said unto them,
Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and
ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For
the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
Acts 2:38-39 KJV
again this is just when the church was forming bekng filled with the Holy Ghost and heres Peter saying “ repent and be baptized “
Much later as the church is spreading to non Jewish people
“While
Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter,
…and Peter answered ,
Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And
he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:44-45, 47-48 KJV
Why do you suppose the apostle Peter is still commanding water baptism didn’t he understand it the right way ? It’s the first reaction of Peter “ can anyone stop these Gentiles from getting baptized in water wrong they have received the holy spirit like we did ? “
And then with no objections from The Jews and Peter commanded they be baptized in the name of Jesus just like Jesus had told him to do. Just like the Jews were baptized beforehand .
The gospel is the same for us as them we get baptized in water because that’s what
God established as his promise of remission of sins if we hear and believe it to do it is faith.
to simplify your arguing with the scriptures I’m sharing with you and what they are saying not with me baptism is a basic doctrine but when we argue about it like this lol the act of faith becomes mute
baptism needs to be hearing what baptism is for and believing it and then making the decision to do it. It’s just a simple act of faith that again I didn’t create this God sentnjohn to establish baptism to prepare someone for Jesus and the gospel. It’s Gods design for the church not in any way is it mine it’s just what the scripture says the early biblical church did because they believed that it was about what they preached
The arguing between Christians about such basic stuff like baptism kills the faith it’s meant to create to learn together it kills this effect of hearing , believing and acting in that belief . Which is faith watch how thy eve folk respond regarding baptism for remission and subsequent promise of the Holy Ghost from Jesus( same thing John beforehand and Jesus during both preached water and spirit now Peter is preaching after )
“Then Peter said unto them,
Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For
the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even
as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying,
Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.”
Acts 2:38-41 KJV
when we always debate how things the Bible clearly teaches don’t apply or mean what it says they mean it kills the operation of faith for us we should learn and believe and start acting and believing in those things we learn, we often explain away what we don’t already know because we just find it hard to change a view.
So to avoid the arguing about baptism again lol I’m gonna let you have the last response and just wait for the next beautiful panel you create haha God bless sister
