The Shortage, Are You Preparing?

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JohnDB

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Can't help but wonder what opinion @JohnDB or @Lynx (or anyone else who regularly makes their own bread from scratch at home) might have to offer - not only about the 'machine' equipment - but, more particularly, the ingredients being supplied...
What about the ingredients?

Flour is made from wheat...it is grown everywhere. The various types and species are usually grown in different areas. Hard wheat used for bread is usually grown up north and pastry flour is grown down South.

Wheat is usually grown in cycles of a field. Spelt, soybeans, and corn are also grown in those fields. It just depends on what the previous crop was as to what is grown in the current year. Also fertilizers and pesticides are ordered in the fall for spring delivery along with seed.

Most crops are contract grown....meaning that the crops are sold before they get planted. The seed and fertilizers are provided by the contractor...you provide labor and equipment and are paid on yield. Which covers the cost of diesel and equipment costs and provides a salary.

ConAgra, Monsanto and others (like fast food chains and snack food and cereal producers and etc) usually contract for the grains or whatever is grown long before the season starts.

So when you buy a bag of Gold Medal, King Arthur, pilsbury or store brand flour it was contracted for last year.

This year's crops aren't in yet but the forecast is in for how the fields are producing and how much is contracted for....and how much volume by comparison of annual consumption and costs of transportation.

Grains are a global commodity....meaning that the price of grain in America is based in part of how much grain is produced in Africa and Brazil.

Currently there's a shortage of rye. I'm expecting a bumper crop of pastry flour. (So long as we can avoid late summer storms)
I'm not sure how bread flour is doing up north yet.
 

ZNP

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Can't help but wonder what opinion @JohnDB or @Lynx (or anyone else who regularly makes their own bread from scratch at home) might have to offer - not only about the 'machine' equipment - but, more particularly, the ingredients being supplied...
I have made about 5 loaves so far. It is a snap. I have discovered that using distilled water helps the bread rise tremendously, the tap water with chlorine kills yeast.

I also wanted the bread to be more moist, so adding feta cheese made it much more moist.

When I add ingredients it obviously makes it more expensive, but at the same time it has more nutritional value.
 

ZNP

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What about the ingredients?

Flour is made from wheat...it is grown everywhere. The various types and species are usually grown in different areas. Hard wheat used for bread is usually grown up north and pastry flour is grown down South.

Wheat is usually grown in cycles of a field. Spelt, soybeans, and corn are also grown in those fields. It just depends on what the previous crop was as to what is grown in the current year. Also fertilizers and pesticides are ordered in the fall for spring delivery along with seed.

Most crops are contract grown....meaning that the crops are sold before they get planted. The seed and fertilizers are provided by the contractor...you provide labor and equipment and are paid on yield. Which covers the cost of diesel and equipment costs and provides a salary.

ConAgra, Monsanto and others (like fast food chains and snack food and cereal producers and etc) usually contract for the grains or whatever is grown long before the season starts.

So when you buy a bag of Gold Medal, King Arthur, pilsbury or store brand flour it was contracted for last year.

This year's crops aren't in yet but the forecast is in for how the fields are producing and how much is contracted for....and how much volume by comparison of annual consumption and costs of transportation.

Grains are a global commodity....meaning that the price of grain in America is based in part of how much grain is produced in Africa and Brazil.

Currently there's a shortage of rye. I'm expecting a bumper crop of pastry flour. (So long as we can avoid late summer storms)
I'm not sure how bread flour is doing up north yet.
I'm not buying flour, I have wheat berries which I grind into flour when I make the bread, takes about 30 seconds.
 

ZNP

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Kenya, Somalia and Ethiopia

 

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ZNP

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US wheat crop hurt by dry winter and spring's heavy rain
UN said Russia-Ukraine war's impact on grains, oils, fuel and fertilizer could force millions into famine

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-wheat-crop-hurt-dry-winter-spring-heavy-rain

Love the UN, we already have 12 countries teetering on bankruptcy. Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and Iran are just three, but there are a number of African nations and others as well. We already know that this years harvest will be horrible. We know the stores of grain will be used up shortly. Famine is at the starting gate, pawing the ground, ready to run.
 

ZNP

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Auto sales are falling off a cliff due to rising interest rates on financing and supply chain issues.

That is probably the biggest indicator of a coming depression.

On inflation there are two fundamental engines: oil and wheat.

Oil is really fundamental to costs in everything being cost of energy, cost of transportation, and even cost of food since it plays a major role in fertilizer.

However, at the most fundamental level is food. People can cut back on everything except food. We don't need to go on trips, we can take mass transit, we can wear sweaters and sit on the porch in the summer. So if there is a shortage in food worldwide there is nothing you can do about that.

Yes, we can stop eating at restaurants, cooking yourself is probably 30% cheaper than eating out, if not 50% of the cost. You'll see the slow retreat, they'll stop eating at restaurants with waiters and waitresses because 18% tip is a very big part of your food budget. Subways is probably only 30% over the cost of buying the stuff at the grocery store. But soon you can't do that either. Beans and rice is probably 50% of the cost of a sandwich and 30% the cost of eating at Subway. So if you can't pay your bills you will be eating beans and rice (lentils).

So yes, we can tighten our belt in response to inflation in both oil and wheat, but not if you throw in WWIII and plagues.

Anyone out there want Biden to steer us away from WWIII and plagues? Just when you need the best pilot at the helm we have the worst.
 

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They keep telling us there is a shortage coming. I haven't seen it yet locally but somewhere along the line people are gonna realize the holidays are upon us and they are out of luck. I just sense that we are in for some hard times ahead in America, like hasn't been seen in years.

I've never considered myself a prepper but I went out and got all the dry goods for Thanksgiving and Christmas meals. I also got all the baking goods last night. Then hubby and I bought a freezer. I'm not panicked, I just the Lord telling us to prepare. I did the same for my parents. So is anyone else feeling the same way? We see the ships in the harbor and no movement. I think the holiday season is going to get bad quickly. I don't want to be out there fighting for TP with a mob of crazy people. But then, I always like to be prepared, I hate sitting and worrying and doing nothing. I figure if I prepare I can help someone else that needs it. Anyone else making plans or you don't think this is serious enough to prepare?

I don't consider myself a prepper, but I am a survivalist. I grow at least 70% of the produce I consume, and I add to that yearly. I can, freeze, ferment or dehydrate enough that it lasts through winter until my next crop comes in. I buy meat in bulk (think buying half of a half a cow, a whole hog and so on) and can or freeze it. I can ready-to-eat meals. I can make yogurt, cheese, sour cream and butter from fresh cow's milk (I don't have my own cow yet but working on that) and I have chickens. I am working on turning the lawn in my back yard into an orchard, with fruit and nut trees, lining my garden with berry and fruit bushes. On top of this, I know which "weeds" are edible and which are poisonous. I can hunt for my own meat, and while it's not really my thing, I know I can survive if I ever have to. Now I have about 3 acres of land, but I grew more of our produce when we lived in Indiana and I only lived on 1/2 acre then. I think grass lawns, while pretty, are useless, and lawns can be turned into food if desired.

I do all of this, not because I fear the future shortages or anything like that. I do it because I want to be self sufficient. God provides for me through giving me the knowledge and strength to do all of this. I know exactly what I eat, no chemical preservatives I can't pronounce, I monitor and regulate the salt and sugar I consume, and I get a lot of exercise growing it. God provided me with everything I need to do this.

I donate bumper crops to a local church food bank, and I give a lot away to neighbors, friends and my kids. I have a goal of one day starting food tables at churches, that are covered for anonymity and weather protection. I want to offer seeds and directions on growing and producing food, as well as, how to harvest and store the seeds for future growing. Imagine the stress relief a single parent can have knowing they can grow a couple nutritious foods for their families, and never have to buy that food again. But right now, that is a dream.
 

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I know that some politicians are heavily invested and involved with these hedge funds...as well as their families..
Any guesses as to who?
 

GardenofWeeden

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I know that some politicians are heavily invested and involved with these hedge funds...as well as their families..
Any guesses as to who?
BlackRock is also one of the corporations buying up houses, to force people to rent, and control the rental prices diving them up as well.
 

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BlackRock is also one of the corporations buying up houses, to force people to rent, and control the rental prices diving them up as well.
Thank you precious sister, I believe Blackrock is tied to the Chinese communist party that has started war with America through pestilences, economy, and such.
 

ZNP

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Thank you precious sister, I believe Blackrock is tied to the Chinese communist party that has started war with America through pestilences, economy, and such.
Ideally I think China would like to be the center of a global government. The US is certainly a big part of China's success but the goal is to steal and co-opt the US.

Unfortunately Russia also thinks they should be a major player in this new world order and it has become clear that they will get a minor role. The war in Ukraine is their bid for a starring role. This isn't just about how significant their wheat and oil exports are but also about the dirty little secrets of the US / Chinese globalists operating in Ukraine. They think blackmailing the Moloch and Baal worshippers strengthens their bargaining position.

The problem with blackmail is that paying to not reveal secrets does nothing, they still have the secrets you don't want revealed and you will become a serf paying the blackmail and in the end everyone will find out the secrets anyway. So for Biden and others the only option is to annihilate Russia. Compare our economies and our militaries and our allies and Russia has no chance at all. However, if Russia strikes first the US could collapse. I'm not talking about a few morons with box cutters. I'm talking about suitcase nukes, EMPs, and underwater nukes fired from submarines. In an hour Russia could take out the entire power grid of the US, wipe out 12 cities, and send a tsunami 500 feet high along all of our coastlines where 65% of our population lives.

After an attack like that Russia would have to justify it to the world -- evidence they found in Ukraine would do it. The entire world suffered under this pandemic and if they have evidence that this was a planned bioweapons attack and that the US labs planned to release more bioweapons then the whole world would applaud this attack.

However, China as a world power would be greatly impacted as a result of this. Russia will move to attack Israel with a coalition of Islamic nations. Without the US backing them they would be open to attack and China would move to attack Taiwan.

Ezekiel 38 tells us about God delivering Israel from this attack by Russia, and I suspect that if attacked Taiwan would destroy many of the dams in China causing the entire Yangtze river basin where 500 million live to be destroyed. I also believe that Taiwan will be able to sink most if not all the troop transports that try and cross the Taiwan straight.

WWIII has already begun, but I feel like D day could be as little as 2 days away.
 

shittim

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"WWIII has already begun, but I feel like D day could be as little as 2 days away. "
Indeed, and we know from scripture "the end will come as a flood", to me this means all consuming and sudden, we know the evil side is working quickly before the rightful president is returned to office, and that Jesus will return before the whole creation is destroyed.
We are running out of time to earn crowns to lay at His feet, for He alone is worthy.
Joecoton/oblio is ok, a brother in Christ.
blessings
 

ZNP

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Imagine a trucking company runs out of DEF, all their trucks sit idle while their bills continue to pile up causing the entire trucking company to belly up.

Gives an example of how the doubling of fuel costs will cause trucking and shipping companies to go out of business.

Now why would they want to bankrupt all these small time truckers? Could it be they want to replace them with a large trucking company using self driving trucks? Of course in the short term it could be about war. However, just as the pandemic was really hard on small business but great for Amazon.com, this could be really great for self driving trucks.
 

ZNP

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This is filled with news stories. It looks like they are trying to create a trucking crisis by having a shortage of DEF and then for the Military to move in (August 2022) to seize control of shipping the food and distributing it at grocery stores.

What we have seen in Shanghai, Canada and Australia are dry runs for the US.