Why do men and women hate each other?

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Lanolin

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Just for one year of private school you might be looking at $5000
while public school is free, and some are not even allowed to ask parents for a donation. They still need to pay for items like uniform and stationary though, so maybe about $100-$150 per child.
 

Lanolin

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Education, which is more like "indoctrination", is compulsory here as well, but I need to clarify what I meant.

When I said that children are dumped into the public school system by their parents, I was contrasting that with the very real option of homeschooling their own children.

Anyhow, my overall point was that it is the parents' responsibility to train up their own children, but they more often than not dump that responsibility upon others (the school system, the church, etc., etc.) and then complain about the results of the same.
homeschooling is not an option for many parents who work outside the home. if they can work from home its great but workplaces need to allow for teaching time. Many dont, they dont even have creches or allow children at work. some attitudes towards breastfeeding are arcane as well.

there is also a small thing of...many parents do not even own their own home. How can they homeschool when they are working so hard to just pay for where they live.
 

Lanolin

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Grandparents ought to be teaching their grandchildren but many cant. I think a lot of grandparents these days seem wrapped up in themselves and neglect their responsibilities. Or they do not live near their grandchildren to spend time with them.
 
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This was never fully the case until recently, but I'm actually thrilled to be single right now. I know that I've mentioned a particular woman at work recently, but I really don't even think about her either. As I've said before, in theory, women are my favorite part of God's creation. In practice, however...well, that's a completely different story.

Anyhow, I'm good.

Aside from defending the gospel, I truly am a very mild-mannered and peace-loving man. I'm totally NOT into strife and contention. When women are involved? Well, it's just constant strife of some sort or another, and I'm never the originator of it. That's been my personal experience anyway, and it's not meant as some sort of blanket condemnation of all women. As I've readily acknowledged before, most men are horrible, too.

Again, I'm good just as I am right now. In fact, I'm very, very good.

If another woman ever gets close to me, then it's literally going to be a miracle.

My eyes are wide open...
If God wants to, He'll get around your defenses in an instant! It sounds like I've walked a similar walk to you when it comes to wife and children. The kids are grown...now there's grandchildren I barely know. And I'm forgotten about around the holidays. Oh well.
You sound like you may be the same personality type that I am. Easy-going, get's along with most, hates arguing. As far as women go, roses are great, if you can avoid the thorns! Lol
Since my marriage broke up, I haven't been with anyone else. It's been 18 years and counting. I've come to accept that this life is passing and will soon be gone. God is the only thing that makes sense to me anymore. Have a nice day. Shalom.
 

Lanolin

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If God wants to, He'll get around your defenses in an instant! It sounds like I've walked a similar walk to you when it comes to wife and children. The kids are grown...now there's grandchildren I barely know. And I'm forgotten about around the holidays. Oh well.
You sound like you may be the same personality type that I am. Easy-going, get's along with most, hates arguing. As far as women go, roses are great, if you can avoid the thorns! Lol
Since my marriage broke up, I haven't been with anyone else. It's been 18 years and counting. I've come to accept that this life is passing and will soon be gone. God is the only thing that makes sense to me anymore. Have a nice day. Shalom.
I think you ought to get to know you grandchildren and read books with them , dont let them pass you by as they will grow up before you know it. Grandchildren need their grandparents to love them unconditionally

dont neglect this chasing after rainbows. I saw so many grandparents at retirement villages who did not know their own grandchildren or even less their own children. they may have been socialising with each other and on the prowl or whatver having a wine, but, I think they miss out on a lot without the younger generation to teach and look after.
 

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homeschooling is not an option for many parents who work outside the home. if they can work from home its great but workplaces need to allow for teaching time. Many dont, they dont even have creches or allow children at work. some attitudes towards breastfeeding are arcane as well.

there is also a small thing of...many parents do not even own their own home. How can they homeschool when they are working so hard to just pay for where they live.
Excuse my plainness of speech, but these are all just poor excuses.

With God all things are possible.

If people are willing to do things God's way, then God will provide the means necessary for them to do so.

Anyhow, I'm not going to get into a back and forth on this.

Again, my overall point was, and still is, that parents are instructed BY GOD to train up their own children. God doesn't tell us to do something that cannot be done. Is there going to be sacrifice involved? You can bet your bottom dollar that there is, and that is the real reason why so many people don't do things God's way. Basically, they're living for themselves, and not for him.

Well, have at me/what I said if you so desire to do so, but I'm not recanting in the least from what I've just said.

Been there.

Done that.

Know firsthand that God's grace is sufficient...if we're willing to do things his way.
 
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joecoten

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I think you ought to get to know you grandchildren and read books with them , dont let them pass you by as they will grow up before you know it. Grandchildren need their grandparents to love them unconditionally

dont neglect this chasing after rainbows. I saw so many grandparents at retirement villages who did not know their own grandchildren or even less their own children. they may have been socialising with each other and on the prowl or whatver having a wine, but, I think they miss out on a lot without the younger generation to teach and look after.
The ball's not in my court. I saw them last winter.
 

Live4Him3

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Btw, since the topic of education is presently on the table, this is the best quote that I've ever seen in relation to the government's desire to "educate" (read: indoctrinate) our children:

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Live4Him3

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If God wants to, He'll get around your defenses in an instant! It sounds like I've walked a similar walk to you when it comes to wife and children. The kids are grown...now there's grandchildren I barely know. And I'm forgotten about around the holidays. Oh well.
You sound like you may be the same personality type that I am. Easy-going, get's along with most, hates arguing. As far as women go, roses are great, if you can avoid the thorns! Lol
Since my marriage broke up, I haven't been with anyone else. It's been 18 years and counting. I've come to accept that this life is passing and will soon be gone. God is the only thing that makes sense to me anymore. Have a nice day. Shalom.
There are definitely some similarities, but my children are younger (19, 16, and 14).

I'm definitely not into strife and contention, and the thing that I despise most in this world is pretense. I've met so many fake people that I don't even want to think about it.

Anyhow, my signature verse here used to be the following, and, in my estimation, it perfectly describes who I truly am:

"I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war." (Psalm 120:7)

And so it goes...
 

Lanolin

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Excuse my plainness of speech, but these are all just poor excuses.

With God all things are possible.

If people are willing to do things God's way, then God will provide the means necessary for them to do so.

Anyhow, I'm not going to get into a back and forth on this.

Again, my overall point was, and still is, that parents are instructed BY GOD to train up their own children. God doesn't tell us to do something that cannot be done. Is there going to be sacrifice involved? You can bet your bottom dollar that there is, and that is the real reason why so many people don't do things God's way. Basically, they're living for themselves, and not for him.

Well, have at me/what I said if you so desire to do so, but I'm not recanting in the least from what I've just said.

Been there.

Done that.

Know firsthand that God's grace is sufficient...if we're willing to do things his way.
thing is they are not provided for
because they might need to learn another language or maths skills the parents actually dont have

homeschool isnt always the answer, what works is going to a PUBLIC library and reading books...and that is free

I was talking with a teacher the other day about learning, and we were reading a book with the children , well I was, it was a book called

Reading makes you feel good, by Tom Parr

and it said you can read by yourself

and the children said, well if we can read by ourselves. what do we even need teachers for ?

and the teacher said 'herd management' lol

its true a lot of parents are lazy they had all the time to homeschool during lockdown and all theor children did was watch tv or play video gamesAt school we do not watch tv or play video games for hours on end. It is a learning environment. At home there are too many distractions.
 

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My parents didn make past primary school, so they could only have taught me up to that level if they had were to teach me anything

I mostly learned the things that interested me from books anyway, not school so much.
 

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There are definitely some similarities, but my children are younger (19, 16, and 14).

I'm definitely not into strife and contention, and the thing that I despise most in this world is pretense. I've met so many fake people that I don't even want to think about it.

Anyhow, my signature verse here used to be the following, and, in my estimation, it perfectly describes who I truly am:

"I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war." (Psalm 120:7)

And so it goes...
the fake people wearing.....jeans?

sorry lol

I was just thinking about those pre ripped jeans that are fake jeans
 

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are you homeschooling your children @Live4Him3 ?

if so, good on you
if not, why not practice what you preach
 

Lanolin

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You're assuming...
well, what do you mean

seeing them last winter is enough? You dont want to see them every month or every week or even every day? Children grow day by day. If you just want to see them once a year on their birthday ok but be consistent they need to know you
 

Live4Him3

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are you homeschooling your children @Live4Him3 ?

if so, good on you
if not, why not practice what you preach
When I was still married, we did homeschool our children. I was self-employed by design in order to be able to set my own schedule and make myself available to both my wife and our children as much as possible. I normally only worked 3 days a week, and even on the days that I worked, I taught my children certain subjects (Math, science, English, etc.) when I arrived home from work. On top of that, our children did attend a co-op every Friday in which they were taught such things as art, music, and drama with children their own age. We also regularly enrolled them in such things as gymnastics so they would have plenty of social interaction with other children.

After our divorce, which my ex initiated, things changed drastically, and our children did wind up in the public school system.
 
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well, what do you mean

seeing them last winter is enough? You dont want to see them every month or every week or even every day? Children grow day by day. If you just want to see them once a year on their birthday ok but be consistent they need to know you
Like I said, the ball's not in my court.
 

Lanolin

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thats very heavy stuff

I dont know if its mentioned here but the whole man hating women and vice versa seems to happen in only in unequally yoked marriages. And theres probably an element of Jezebel and Ahab spirits to it.

They marry each other but theres ulterior motives to their marriage. Ahabs get taken for a ride and it may be they are blinded. But then they chose to marry Jezebels who are very cunning and deceitful...they need to wise up

also Jezebels are not above saying 'God told me to marry you'