Is Baptism necessary for Salvation?

[peldom10]

You appear to be lying to gin up support for your opinion

NO ONE IS ANTI BAPTISM. The scripture is clear on being baptized. It is also clear that water does not cleanse from sin.

So you go and have your little chat with the runner there and make up stories which you both seem to be eager to do.

Frankly the deliberate lying is sickening and it seems you have to go that far in order to make yourself feel better.

It's a shame.

WRONG.........suggest you study scripture before it is too late;


Baptism is Required



Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

KJV Marrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.

KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.

Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 19:4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.”

John 3; 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth

.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized.His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.

Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.

Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.

Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.

Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Also two other books of the Bible).

 

[peldom10]

they are in desperation mode. they have been asked to back up their belief in specific ways, and they can not. so they come out on the attack mode.

You are the one over due to list scriptures which say baptism is not required.
We know...because you can't.

 

[peldom10]

Is it your position that I have fallen on my head and no longer believe that the sacrifice of Christ is not sufficient for the forgiveness of sin?


For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10:26

It is willful sin to lie, as two others have done here recently and while you may be sincere, you are also sincerely wrong about baptism.

If I had never been baptized, I would still be IN Christ and my sin forgiven.


The Word of Life
(Luke 24:36–49; John 20:19–23)

1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our own eyes, which we have gazed upon and touched with our own hands—this is the Word of life. 2And this is the life that was revealed; we have seen it and testified to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life that was with the Father and was revealed to us.

3We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And this fellowship of ours is with the Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ. 4We write these things so that our joy may be complete.

Walking in the Light
(John 8:12–29)

5And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you: God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. 6If we say we have fellowship with Him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. (You must walk in the light. In Jesus there is no darkness at all.)

8If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us.

The blood of Jesus His Son (God's Son) cleanses us from all sin.

That is enough and that is all that cleanses all those who with faith approach God our Father through the blood of Jesus. He alone has atoned for our sin. In fact, the sin of the entire world; but only those who accept Him are able to be forgiven.

Water washes dirt from our physical bodies, but only the blood of Jesus washes away our sin.

You mixing apples with oranges....who said there was a question about Christs' sacrifice on the cross for sin forgiveness?

 

[peldom10]

Yes we know that water does not wash sin away. How could it? It is a physical element and the remedy is a spiritual one.

Lying is always a pathetic attempt at covering up sin. The shield of faith held up against the lies, shows both the lie and the liar, to be at odds with the word of God and in that light, the truth prevails.

Wrong...study scriptures...:

Baptism is Required



Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

KJV Marrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.

KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.

Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 19:4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.”

John 3; 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth

.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized.His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.

Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.

Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.

Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.

Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Also two other books of the Bible).

 

[peldom10]

Yes we know that water does not wash sin away. How could it? It is a physical element and the remedy is a spiritual one.

Lying is always a pathetic attempt at covering up sin. The shield of faith held up against the lies, shows both the lie and the liar, to be at odds with the word of God and in that light, the truth prevails.

It appears you are absent of shield and knowledge of God's word.

 

[Wansvic]

Is it your position that I have fallen on my head and no longer believe that the sacrifice of Christ is not sufficient for the forgiveness of sin?


For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10:26

It is willful sin to lie, as two others have done here recently and while you may be sincere, you are also sincerely wrong about baptism.

If I had never been baptized, I would still be IN Christ and my sin forgiven.


The Word of Life
(Luke 24:36–49; John 20:19–23)

1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our own eyes, which we have gazed upon and touched with our own hands—this is the Word of life. 2And this is the life that was revealed; we have seen it and testified to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life that was with the Father and was revealed to us.

3We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And this fellowship of ours is with the Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ. 4We write these things so that our joy may be complete.

Walking in the Light
(John 8:12–29)

5And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you: God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. 6If we say we have fellowship with Him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. (You must walk in the light. In Jesus there is no darkness at all.)

8If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us.

The blood of Jesus His Son (God's Son) cleanses us from all sin.

That is enough and that is all that cleanses all those who with faith approach God our Father through the blood of Jesus. He alone has atoned for our sin. In fact, the sin of the entire world; but only those who accept Him are able to be forgiven.

Water washes dirt from our physical bodies, but only the blood of Jesus washes away our sin.

I take it that's a yes.

 

[Polar]

WRONG.........suggest you study scripture before it is too late;


Baptism is Required



Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

KJV Marrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.

KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.

Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 19:4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.”

John 3; 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth

.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized.His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.

Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.

Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.

Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.

Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Also two other books of the Bible).

So much noise just to avoid owning up to lying about what those who know water baptism believe.

It appears you are absent of shield and knowledge of God's word.

It seems many untrue things appear to you as your truth.

 

[Polar]

I take it that's a yes.

I don't care if you take the last 2 doughnuts.

I do not agree with your belief in water regeneration.

 

[Polar]

You mixing apples with oranges....who said there was a question about Christs' sacrifice on the cross for sin forgiveness?

Actually your presentations are simply fruity. Bad fruity

 

[RichMan]

To be baptized, there must be enough water and there must be another person to dunk you under the water.
If one is not present, then you will just end up in hell no matter how much faith you have.
Guess those people in the desert just have no hope.
My eternal life is not based on someone dunking me in water.

 

[Polar]

Wrong...study scriptures...:

Baptism is Required

I do study and have studied and will study and I do not listen to false teachers/prophets.

This is how I know that your teaching is false.

AGAIN, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE HARD OF RETAINING WHAT OTHERS POST AND I GUESS FOR YOU ALSO, NO ONE HAS STATED BAPTISM SHOULD BE IGNORED. HOWEVER, WATER DOES NOT WASH AWAY SIN. ONLY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST SHED ON OUR BEHALF CLEANSES US FROM ALL SIN.

 

[peldom10]

To be baptized, there must be enough water and there must be another person to dunk you under the water.
If one is not present, then you will just end up in hell no matter how much faith you have.
Guess those people in the desert just have no hope.
My eternal life is not based on someone dunking me in water.

Then you need to study scriptures;

Baptism is Required



Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

KJV Marrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.

KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.

Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 19:4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.”

John 3; 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth

.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized.His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.

Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.

Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.

Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.

Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Also two other books of the Bible).

Now please show me scripture which says baptism is not required?

 

[Polar]

I don't use the x's, but when someone starts that mess, well, there are plenty of x's to go around. Of course if they stop, I can stop also.

 

[RichMan]

Then you need to study scriptures;

Baptism is Required



Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

KJV Marrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.

KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.

Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 19:4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.”

John 3; 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth

.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized.His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.

Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.

Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.

Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.

Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Also two other books of the Bible).

Now please show me scripture which says baptism is not required?

So you are saying that if a person cannot find another person to dunk them under water, he is going to hell.
That my friend is salvation based on the work of a person, not on Jesus shed blood.
Be sure you explain to Jesus that you deserve to be in Heaven because old Brother So and So dunked you under the water.

 

[Runningman]

they are in desperation mode. they have been asked to back up their belief in specific ways, and they can not. so they come out on the attack mode.

That’s your imagination I assure you. This is a very easy conversation and topic for me. The New Testament is bountiful in verses related to water baptism.

 

[peldom10]

To be baptized, there must be enough water and there must be another person to dunk you under the water.
If one is not present, then you will just end up in hell no matter how much faith you have.
Guess those people in the desert just have no hope.
My eternal life is not based on someone dunking me in water.

WOW...that is a new one...not enough water for baptism? How weird.

That is worse than the position that one is automatically baptized with mom's amniotic fluid.

 

[Polar]

So you are saying that if a person cannot find another person to dunk them under water, he is going to hell.
That my friend is salvation based on the work of a person, not on Jesus shed blood.
Be sure you explain to Jesus that you deserve to be in Heaven because old Brother So and So dunked you under the water.

It's worse. He is saying that water cleanses from sin as are a few others in this thread.

So my posts basically focus on the fact that only the blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin. We have an entire system of laws in the OT that require shed blood and that system pointing to the final sacrifice. But it does not matter, does not sink in, is ignored and in fact x'ed; they will continually tell you that if you are not immersed in water you are not saved and at least one, wansvic, believes that you must be baptized only in the name of Jesus and if you have been baptized using in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, then you must be re-baptized in Jesus name only.

My posts containing the large and colored letters, deal with the lie being told that we do not believe in baptism...he x'ed it but if you back some posts, he is saying that...he and the runningman.

They can believe what they want, but the works gospel being offered by them, along with the negating of Jesus alone being able to save, is close to heresy if not actual heresy. They are changing the gospel and offering works to be added to Jesus sacrifice. Maybe you know that, but it is good to remind people of what is really going on.

 

[peldom10]

I don't use the x's, but when someone starts that mess, well, there are plenty of x's to go around. Of course if they stop, I can stop also.

Just follow God's word and the x is not needed.

 

[Runningman]

As I said to your buddy, NO ONE DISREGARDS OR THINKS WATER BAPTISM SHOULD NOT OCCUR

YOU LIE EVERY TIME YOU SAY THIS OR HINT AT IT

Both of you know full well you are not being truthful. It is amazing that you think to convince people how righteous you are, considering you use lies in your attempts at persuading others that you own the truth.

I can't wait to see what other gibberish you cough up. (sarcasim)

You and others have been shown a wall of reasons why people should be water baptized. Rather than just agreeing you argue and slander, such as how you just did, by calling people like me a liar. It really looks like you are anti.water baptism, but the New Testament refutes you.

If you agree with water baptism just say so. This is very simple to me.

 

[peldom10]

It's worse. He is saying that water cleanses from sin as are a few others in this thread.

So my posts basically focus on the fact that only the blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin. We have an entire system of laws in the OT that require shed blood and that system pointing to the final sacrifice. But it does not matter, does not sink in, is ignored and in fact x'ed; they will continually tell you that if you are not immersed in water you are not saved and at least one, wansvic, believes that you must be baptized only in the name of Jesus and if you have been baptized using in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, then you must be re-baptized in Jesus name only.

You do not understand God's word.

I suggest you take time and understand what Christs' sacrifice on the cross was for and how that is applied in the repentance process. That may help you providing you accept God's word.