Transgenderism is a mental disorder

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ResidentAlien

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In a promo video for the Vanity Fair Magazine, Jenner said, “Bruce always had to tell a lie, he was always living that lie. Every day he always had a secret. From morning until night. Caitlyn doesn’t have any secrets. As soon as the Vanity Fair cover comes out, I’m free.” According to the statement, to escape her past life, she wanted a new identity and by undergoing gender reassignment, she is supposed to accomplish that.

The former psychiatrist in chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital is pouring rain on the Bruce Jenner “Call Me Caitlyn” parade that’s sure to have the former Olympic athlete’s cheerleaders steaming.

Not only does Dr. Paul R. McHugh consider changing sexes “biologically impossible,” he thinks being what is popularly called “transgender” these days is actually a “mental disorder.”

If Transgenderism is a mental disorder, then I think these people need our sympathy and prayers. What's your own take on that?

Here is an article I shared about that issue and my view about it: NEEDED: Sympathy for Caitlyn
I think McHugh is absolutely right. It is medically impossible to change genders. You can make all kinds of cosmetic changes and take hormones but that won't change your gender. In fact taking hormones can mess a person up and cause more problems than it solves.

I don't know about mental disorder. It's not that uncommon for kids to have gender confusion growing up; I wouldn't call that a disorder. However, nowadays, rather than steering kids in the right direction the LGBTQ activists have brainwashed everyone into thinking if a kid has gender confusion we must just accept it and play along. The tail is truly wagging the dog. If kids aren't helped to find a dose of reality they may develop a mental disorder over gender.

Transgender people truly do need our love and support. In many ways they're victims of the LGBTQ activists who have fed them a steady stream of lies. "Changing genders" seems like an easy way to solve a difficult problem, but it's unrealistic and dangerous in many ways. Like most simple solutions there may be hidden costs that aren't seen or understood.
 

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Go Josh!

This is an interesting exchange. Something that isn't made entirely clear here is the fact that this professor is talking about transgender "men" who were born female and "transitioned" to male. Some of these transgender "men" can get pregnant because they're actually still women! Only women can get pregnant, regardless of what they may look like on the outside.

 
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Other than a strike on the head, or blood having been cut off by damage, or similar, it's plain sin, caused by the fallen nature of humans. Demons love the idea, and the person who pursues this failed existence is normally beset by dozens of them.
These people need to hear the truth written in the pages of the Bible. That is love.
God is judging the USA
I think the first mistake the US made was claiming that those who claim The Law are saved, and are to be treated as equals and allies, despite them openly, very hostilely, treating Jesus.
 
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I think McHugh is absolutely right. It is medically impossible to change genders.
I think that for many, the idea that we can change such a core instruction from God, would prove that we are free from God's will, and thus able to be sinless without Repentance through Jesus. This is much like the trickery Satan gives on almost every sin.
"Did God really say this would kill you? Well, we'll prove him wrong, you can drink as much as you want and you won't die. You'll walk that bleeding edge, and prove to God that you can keep yourself just fine without all those stifling codes!"
 

Lanolin

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what is difference between transexual and transgender

I think they might be two different things.
Hidden costs? It costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to change your gender...with all the cosmetic surgery, hormone treatments, depilatory, etc

Apprently in the time ex wife Linda knew Bruce Jenner as Bruce he showed absolutely no spiritual side at all. (in contrast to Elvis, who was always seeking to connect with gospel music, reading the Bible etc)
Though in the latest netflix doco the Caitlyn character asks a question about God whether she will be accepted.

I think winning an Olympic Gold medal is a kind of idolatry for some. They want to prove their worth. But its the wrong god. (Mammon)
I dont know if their is a gold medal for being the best woman lol. In the doco caitlyn shows off that she won a Guinness Worlds Record for the most Twitter followers in an hour or something.

so maybe she could win a trophy for it and that would make her day. But she cant go back to being a man now that her drivers licence has been changed and all that. It will be even more expensive to change back I would think. Not sure why, Bruce couldnt just be an actor who had this character Caitlyn and play her for a few hours and then take off his costume when done at the end of the show which is what most men do if they want to experience being a woman. All the characters on the show would then pretend to believe her.

After all he was used to being on tv.
 

Lanolin

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actually there IS an olympic games for women, they are called beauty pageants.
Maybe thats why Bruce married Linda Thompson, in part because she WAS a former beauty pageant winner. Maybe he was gaining tips from her or something but lost interest after a few years then went on to Kris.

His four sons missed out on their dad through all this, apparently he did not bother to contact them at all while he was being self-involved with all the drama of trying to become a woman
 
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What I still cannot fathom over this argument, is that we started this dicussion saying that there is no proper way to think or feel as a gender or sex.
Now we want to claim there actually must be, which is why I can know in advance of mutilating my body as God gives it, that I am not what God gave me, but must be the other.
 
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A lady I know grandaughter is currently on hormonal treatment and is changing from female to male. Actually she wants to be neither, half male and half female. She/he still looks like a female to me as she/he is very petite and will never look male. I have no idea what the reason for her change.
 
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A lady I know grandaughter is currently on hormonal treatment and is changing from female to male. Actually she wants to be neither, half male and half female. She/he still looks like a female to me as she/he is very petite and will never look male. I have no idea what the reason for her change.
I am sorry for your community's loss, these acts are premeditated murder.
 

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In a promo video for the Vanity Fair Magazine, Jenner said, “Bruce always had to tell a lie, he was always living that lie. Every day he always had a secret. From morning until night. Caitlyn doesn’t have any secrets. As soon as the Vanity Fair cover comes out, I’m free.” According to the statement, to escape her past life, she wanted a new identity and by undergoing gender reassignment, she is supposed to accomplish that.

The former psychiatrist in chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital is pouring rain on the Bruce Jenner “Call Me Caitlyn” parade that’s sure to have the former Olympic athlete’s cheerleaders steaming.

Not only does Dr. Paul R. McHugh consider changing sexes “biologically impossible,” he thinks being what is popularly called “transgender” these days is actually a “mental disorder.”

If Transgenderism is a mental disorder, then I think these people need our sympathy and prayers. What's your own take on that?

Here is an article I shared about that issue and my view about it: NEEDED: Sympathy for Caitlyn
He needs deliverance . Mental disorders are definitely not a plan from God. We are to be of sound mind. He needs to be told the truth. I so agree with you. If we do not tell him or them the truth in love their blood is on our hands. That's where people go wrong with just keeping quiet . Sadly people worried about stepping on someones toes. I am more worried about where they are going when they die. That is love , not hiding the truth from them.
 

Lanolin

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actually I do know a neighbours niece changed to male in her teens
She was an IVF baby
so sometimes I think that may have something to do with it

to actually do IVF costs hundreds and thousands of dollars as well.
Maybe they were never really affirmed or blessed as a child/baby or accepted? Thinking on Bruce, did his parents treat him well? I dont know. Is this why he pushed himself to train so hard for the olympics and win a medal to prove his worth?

Apparently because he was dyslexic, he didnt do well in school and sports was the only thing he could master. The thing with sports is for men, its kinda saying if you are strong, you are worthy. If you are weak, then you are not really a man

Though women can now compete in the Olympics, they are at a disadvantage for most sports.
 

Lanolin

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people seem to judge others on their appearance a lot

apparently if you are NOT beautiful as a woman its a sin
ugly women get a raw deal
as do weak men
 
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ugly women get a raw deal
as do weak men
We could solve some of this pain by arranging marriages, marrying our young adults when they start trying to have children, and by marrying younger women to older men, to whom the definition of fleshly beauty has changed, and/or is less important.
 

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If I were to tell Ms Jenner anything it would be

Jesus accepts you and wants to save your soul not your gender. Thats who you are. Your body is only flesh...it will decay and die. Your soul is who you are inside and is a whole person. The Holy Spirit makes you whole.
 

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We could solve some of this pain by arranging marriages, marrying our young adults when they start trying to have children, and by marrying younger women to older men, to whom the definition of fleshly beauty has changed, and/or is less important.
well you can
Im not into dictating other peoples lives.
 
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well you can
Im not into dictating other peoples lives.
Then why are you upset that some people get a "raw deal"? How do you know that it's raw, or may I translate into, wronged?
Are the people who avoid these two types of people then not being told, by you, they are incorrect?
 

Lanolin

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arranged marriages had thousands of years of that and misery for women resulted since men abused them a lot. I guess ppl dont learn

Jesus said we would be as angels, neither marrying or given to marriage. Thats what heaven will be like.

the only thing that will be married is people to the land. (Israel)

anyway, a lot of people cant seem to accept who they are in Christ or maybe they just dont know. I think bruce/caitlyn just doesnt know. You can go through life being an idolator, marry thrice and ignore God completely cos your mind is on other idols/false gods.

So not only the gospel is needed, also deliverance.
 

Lanolin

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Then why are you upset that some people get a "raw deal"? How do you know that it's raw, or may I translate into, wronged?
Are the people who avoid these two types of people then not being told, by you, they are incorrect?
they get treated badly
im not upset, who said that...just saying what happens.

whats your problem?
 

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i dont know if theres prizes for being the ugliest woman or weakest man. Maybe.

I just thought they never won anything. lol

thats why contests and wars and things over this are pretty silly
 
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they get treated badly
im not upset,
I am waaay to literal to read this as you probably meant to write it. When I see people treated badly, I tend to get upset, ipso, with you expending the energy to mention this condition being raw, I think these two together form a picture of nonsense in my brain.
"whats your problem?"
I am holding a judgement against the US and Western church, and thus also myself, for not being better about our sexual natures, and God's plan as laid forth in Scripture, and spoken by Jesus, and testified to by the very words of those who claim to feel for others. We don't teach of our sexuality as God designed us, we take up the false images of sensual passions, and the fake narratives of Cross-less Christianity, and worse, of Population Control and Masturbation as Godliness; and instead of doing right, I end up teaching that kids should be necking in the woods, if only to spite their parents, because nobody seems to be capable of looking at a human body with a-passionate response to its form, abilities, and desires.
Perhaps during your arrangements, you can consult with the young adults you're pairing together, you don't have to dictate there. That said, you should dictate with whom you are calling your body in Christ. It is imperative that sin be named and discarded.