Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

wolfwint

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I recall a certain hospital custodian who shall remain unnamed who used to post like this.
If you like to make fun about me, call it right.
I am nurse and no custodian.
So you treat people which supporting another view then you have. Very Christian like. You are a Christian right? Or not?
 

Angela53510

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Welcome back, Wolfwint!

I used to agree with you about vaxes. I had 3 full vaxes, no reactions at all. Even my arm did not hurt. (Although I don't know if there will be any long term effects, like an early death!)
Jan 2 I got a positive PCR test. I knew I had had COVID for 2 weeks. Just a weird feeling, and symptoms like sore throat etc.

That was also the day I realized I had COVID pneumonia. My lungs were killing me, I could hardly breathe. I've had pneumonia many times, I knew I had it. I went to the ER and demanded monoclonal antibodies. I got an X-ray of my lungs and it showed bad pneumonia! It took 10 hours to get the infusion, but it finally started at 2 am. I told the ER doc I had never gotten better from any kind of chest infection in over 30 years. I knew I would die without the MABs. Within 1/2 hour, the pain in my lungs stopped, and I could breathe again. After the next 1/2 hour, I was feeling much improved. I did have king COVID. I spent 3 weeks, sleeping 22 hours a day. Gradually I got to 18 hours of sleep, then 16! I've been needing 12 hours now, still really dragging. Long COVID sucks!

The 3 vaxes did nothing for me. If I hadn't had the sense to go to the hospital and demand the MABs, I would have died! The vaccines were totally ineffective for me. And I have met so many others that got very sick with COVID despite the vaccines.

The whole irony to me about the vaxes, was it was never tested in immuno-compromised people. We were told at first we could not have the vax, it had never been tested on our population. Then suddenly, immuno-compromised people are near the top of the list, after 90 & 80 year olds. It was such a total reversal I never trusted it. But I got bullied by my rheumatologist. As he is doing now for the 4th. But I am on the strongest and longest lasting biologic right now, Rituximab. The highest efficacy for the vax with that biologic has been 33%. Rituximab is always in you, destroying B cells. You get new infusions every six months. So, no point in getting another vax which proved it didn't work, even though I was off my meds for weeks in advance and after. And suffered some terrible flares.

Anyway, sorry people are harassing you! I know you are a high level nurse, and you have seen a lot of bad things. I also know you are a strong Christian and know the Bible well. Glad to see you posting, I do not come around here as often as I did, but hopefully we can interact again!
 

shittim

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So many who believe they are Christian still give the world and the things of it first place:(:unsure:
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Nobody in germany promised us that the vaccine gave 99-100 effectiveness.
But it is better to have the vaccine, then no vaccine.
The sideeffects of the vaccine are there, of course. But the effects of the virus are much stronger. (Includeing blood clots)
But to tell that the 2% will survive with truth and healthy guidlines is far to less. And please consider, nobody knows before he got covid that he belongs to the 2% who will not survive.
Based upon your say so it won’t work. It’s ignorant to make an absolute statement without considering the facts. Hanging on 2%, is that all you want to hang on to? To try to discredit mass testimonies of the harmful effects of the vaccines.

Sorry, that isn’t convincing.

Here in the states we were told 99-100% effectiveness. So what if the vaccine was only 98-99% effective (which is obviously a lie), what about that 2%? Better yet, why not expose the lie that vaccines work and that living a healthy lifestyle has been proven since the time God gave His instructions to Israel.

So you really want to deny God’s Word and that His instructions DO work till this day? Doesn’t it make more sense to exercise caution in what we eat, physically and spiritually? Especially blindly taking a jab, a pseudo science man made miracle.

Nah, I rather Trust the Word of God, which is more credible, than to list to man and his folly based upon self understanding, instead of the understanding, knowledge, and wisdom that comes from our Lord!
 

shittim

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Even a hospital custodian with sound judgement would know that the jab is NOT a vaccine, it is an experimental injection the likes of which has never passed a test on animals.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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So were please in the from you mentioned scripture it is mentioned that the vaccine is the " precursor" of the mark of the beast?

By the way, in your own country how many people are not able to live in a situation to have healthy food? Having overweight and diabetis because of unhealthy food.
You would say, let them die it is there own fault? How many are sick and they cant do anything againdt it? You would say eat healthy good and you will not get Covid?
So were please in the from you mentioned scripture it is mentioned that the vaccine is the " precursor" of the mark of the beast?
Well when we read those scriptures it does say "mark" right? Do you have any other idea to what that "mark" might be? Is it not important to know what the "mark" might be? Especially with the type of technologies that are coming out now. Where people are now injecting themselves with microchips in their hands in order to access everything. Also the the controlling of our freedoms by imposing vaccines on us without any evidence of its effectiveness long term through clinical trials, which takes up to 10 years.


By the way, in your own country how many people are not able to live in a situation to have healthy food? Having overweight and diabetis because of unhealthy food.
So did junk food grow from the ground and were you able to harvest it? That's another problem. We are lacking proper education to properly grow our own food and our fully dependent on grocery stores providing for us. We need to start educating ourselves on how to grow food in abundance. Same here in our states. We take for granted where our food comes from. Pretty sad that the young generation thinks that meat all of a sudden comes from a grocery store, but doesn't understand the process of how that meat got there. Let alone all the fruits and vegetables.

You would say, let them die it is there own fault? How many are sick and they cant do anything againdt it? You would say eat healthy good and you will not get Covid?
Why is it easy for you to instantly think I'm against humanity. How else are we supposed to help each other. By exposing lies and sharing truths to one another and reasoning with one another in order to come to an understanding. How else are we supposed to take care of ourselves? By properly educating ourselves in certain aspects we need to work on.

Yes, I wouldn't just say eat healthy. I would actually share information on how to boost your immunity naturally. Even fasting would help. Walking in the sun breathing fresh air without a face mask would help. Anything but the vaccine would help is pretty much where I'm getting at. Especially when there's evidence that our immune systems have the capability of developing a antibodies without it.

So why take vaccines when we already develop antibodies without it? You might say, what about those that don't? Well how can we tell when they keep lying to us, deceiving us, and forcing us to take it? Especially when we STILL catch it after taking the jab. I would also argue that if we would have waited then all of us could have developed the antibodies through herd immunity, which has been proven.
 

shittim

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It is pretty difficult to reason with a person whose reasoning is lacking and who rushes from one erroneous extreme to another.
 

cv5

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Well when we read those scriptures it does say "mark" right? Do you have any other idea to what that "mark" might be? Is it not important to know what the "mark" might be? Especially with the type of technologies that are coming out now. Where people are now injecting themselves with microchips in their hands in order to access everything. Also the the controlling of our freedoms by imposing vaccines on us without any evidence of its effectiveness long term through clinical trials, which takes up to 10 years.




So did junk food grow from the ground and were you able to harvest it? That's another problem. We are lacking proper education to properly grow our own food and our fully dependent on grocery stores providing for us. We need to start educating ourselves on how to grow food in abundance. Same here in our states. We take for granted where our food comes from. Pretty sad that the young generation thinks that meat all of a sudden comes from a grocery store, but doesn't understand the process of how that meat got there. Let alone all the fruits and vegetables.



Why is it easy for you to instantly think I'm against humanity. How else are we supposed to help each other. By exposing lies and sharing truths to one another and reasoning with one another in order to come to an understanding. How else are we supposed to take care of ourselves? By properly educating ourselves in certain aspects we need to work on.

Yes, I wouldn't just say eat healthy. I would actually share information on how to boost your immunity naturally. Even fasting would help. Walking in the sun breathing fresh air without a face mask would help. Anything but the vaccine would help is pretty much where I'm getting at. Especially when there's evidence that our immune systems have the capability of developing a antibodies without it.

So why take vaccines when we already develop antibodies without it? You might say, what about those that don't? Well how can we tell when they keep lying to us, deceiving us, and forcing us to take it? Especially when we STILL catch it after taking the jab. I would also argue that if we would have waited then all of us could have developed the antibodies through herd immunity, which has been proven.
Ivermectin cocktails (make sure you take zinc) are ridiculously effective. On all coronaviruses. The fact that they stifled this invaluable medical treatment is criminal. All of the perpetrator should be prosecuted.
 

cv5

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Well when we read those scriptures it does say "mark" right? Do you have any other idea to what that "mark" might be? Is it not important to know what the "mark" might be? Especially with the type of technologies that are coming out now. Where people are now injecting themselves with microchips in their hands in order to access everything. Also the the controlling of our freedoms by imposing vaccines on us without any evidence of its effectiveness long term through clinical trials, which takes up to 10 years.




So did junk food grow from the ground and were you able to harvest it? That's another problem. We are lacking proper education to properly grow our own food and our fully dependent on grocery stores providing for us. We need to start educating ourselves on how to grow food in abundance. Same here in our states. We take for granted where our food comes from. Pretty sad that the young generation thinks that meat all of a sudden comes from a grocery store, but doesn't understand the process of how that meat got there. Let alone all the fruits and vegetables.



Why is it easy for you to instantly think I'm against humanity. How else are we supposed to help each other. By exposing lies and sharing truths to one another and reasoning with one another in order to come to an understanding. How else are we supposed to take care of ourselves? By properly educating ourselves in certain aspects we need to work on.

Yes, I wouldn't just say eat healthy. I would actually share information on how to boost your immunity naturally. Even fasting would help. Walking in the sun breathing fresh air without a face mask would help. Anything but the vaccine would help is pretty much where I'm getting at. Especially when there's evidence that our immune systems have the capability of developing a antibodies without it.

So why take vaccines when we already develop antibodies without it? You might say, what about those that don't? Well how can we tell when they keep lying to us, deceiving us, and forcing us to take it? Especially when we STILL catch it after taking the jab. I would also argue that if we would have waited then all of us could have developed the antibodies through herd immunity, which has been proven.
The mark probably includes some type of irreversible injectable DNA altering transhumanism. Which is the mantra of Klaus Schaub.
 

shittim

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wolfwint said:
And how many thousands died because they had not the jab.
And how many thousands were saved because they got the jab?

It appears ZERO have been saved from the non-vaccine experimental gene tweaking jab
 

TruthSeekerJG

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It is pretty difficult to reason with a person whose reasoning is lacking and who rushes from one erroneous extreme to another.
Yeah that's true. Starting to recognize this spirit of error. They like to oppose and SAY they know what they're talking about, yet, all I hear is an echo from the mainstream narrative: Partial truths, false accusations, character defamation, pseudo science, etc. That's why we're called to be vigilant and expose the works of darkness by shining a light on it. Regardless of what happens to us because we already know the end game.

Living eternally with our Lord and Savior in a new heavenly host that He has made for us. What's better than that? Nothing. We really need to take both feet out from this World and seek the things above before it's too late. In doing so we separate ourselves from the worldly deceptions that have kept us captive in our own sins. Yeshua died on the cross so we are not slaves to those sins anymore.

Does that sound that we as True believers don't care? No, we should realize that this world is temporary and that our current situations are just a fleeting moment. What are we going to do with it? Save souls, or save our own lives in which we can lose it like Yeshua said. Doesn't mean to play ignorant and not do anything about it.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Ivermectin cocktails (make sure you take zinc) are ridiculously effective. On all coronaviruses. The fact that they stifled this invaluable medical treatment is criminal. All of the perpetrator should be prosecuted.
Agreed! My Mom who is 65 years old caught Covid as well and that's exactly what she did and she developed the antibodies.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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The mark probably includes some type of irreversible injectable DNA altering transhumanism. Which is the mantra of Klaus Schaub.
Hmmm, sounds like conspiracy. Oh wait, they openly state all these things lol. Not only that we can see where this technology is headed. "As in the Days of Noah!" Altering dna and perverting God's creation again. I've also noticed that thinking evil continually is now really prevalent than ever. Why? because of all the junk we've been taking in through media (movies, music, news, etc). This is a straight up attack on us from the enemy. Not to say we can be wise as serpents and gentle as doves and fight back though. After all, the enemy was created by the Most High. So who's greater, the created, or the CREATOR!
 

cv5

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she developed the antibodies.
Which is precisely the desired outcome. This is inevitable after successful IVM therapy. A stronger immune system rather than a compromised one. Resilient long-lasting immunity.

After which you can kick the corrupt lying greedy medical hacks and their political enablers to the curb.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Which is precisely the desired outcome. This is inevitable after successful IVM therapy. A stronger immune system rather than a compromised one. Resilient long-lasting immunity.

After which you can kick the corrupt lying greedy medical hacks and their political enablers to the curb.
Exactly! Why introduce man made instructions to overwrite the instructions that were already written within our genome. Our bodies adapt and we have been deceived into thinking that we need man to step in with his pseudo science (self understanding).
 

shittim

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Junior high was where we were taught you don't try to make a vaccine for a virus as they mutate too quickly, you build up your immune system and practice good hygiene.
You don't shut down the worlds economies over a bad cold.
Too bad most, including the hospital custodian who shall remain unnamed missed that in junior high.
Scripture told us there would be a great end time deception, and we are living it.
Most who claim to be Christian do not walk by guidance of Holy Spirit who is promised to lead us in ALL truth, and thus , leaning on their own understanding are taking the poison jab.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Junior high was where we were taught you don't try to make a vaccine for a virus as they mutate too quickly, you build up your immune system and practice good hygiene.
You don't shut down the worlds economies over a bad cold.
Too bad most, including the hospital custodian who shall remain unnamed missed that in junior high.
Scripture told us there would be a great end time deception, and we are living it.
Most who claim to be Christian do not walk by guidance of Holy Spirit who is promised to lead us in ALL truth, and thus , leaning on their own understanding are taking the poison jab.
Wow, in junior high huh? If only we held to that wisdom lol. Of course we won't be able to come up with a vaccine because they keep mutating. So I guess that's their plan; they'll just identify another mutated strand and say it's another pandemic to keep ushering in these bio-weapons created by "gain of function."