Vaccine is killing more people than covid

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ZNP

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Every week I get an email or text from the ministry of covid :) to remind me to get the jab.
They do this because they are very concerned with your health. In fact, if you are familiar with the Georgia Guidestones showing the heart of the FreeMasons, their very first commandment shows they are very concerned with the health of all 7.5 billion people (if you are not familiar they want to reduce world population down to 500 million).
 
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ChristianTonyB

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I also had two Astra Zeneca and a Pfizer booster. Will get the fourth booster in about a month, which will probably be the Moderna vaccine, I hope. Then the fifth and sixth vaccines followed by the universal Covid-sars-19 vaccine which renders the previous six vaccines obsolete.
It's sad we have to do this. We know it is a bit of a hit and a miss, but I'd hate to catch it and pass it onto anyone in the community if I didn't try to mitigate against that happening. I'd be devistated particularly if their immune system is suspect and they end up getting very sick and perhaps dying. I would feel like I contributed to their suffering. I know there's no guarantees, but at least I have to try.

Except for a couple of African countries, I don't think any other governments have had to deal with an epidemic like this before, so they're learning how to deal with it on the fly. They'll be hit and miss in their effectiveness. But ignorance and ineptitude, and bad decisions don't make for a conspiracy.

I suspect the disease was accidentally 'leaked' out of the Wuhan lab, where the lab got samples of the virus from, would be censured information.
 

TheNarrowPath

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They do this because they are very concerned with your health. In fact, if you are familiar with the Georgia Guidestones showing the heart of the FreeMasons, their very first commandment shows they are very concerned with the health of all 7.5 billion people (if you are not familiar they want to reduce world population down to 500 million).
the falling of the GG made my day :)
 

TheNarrowPath

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It's sad we have to do this. We know it is a bit of a hit and a miss, but I'd hate to catch it and pass it onto anyone in the community if I didn't try to mitigate against that happening. I'd be devistated particularly if their immune system is suspect and they end up getting very sick and perhaps dying. I would feel like I contributed to their suffering. I know there's no guarantees, but at least I have to try.

Except for a couple of African countries, I don't think any other governments have had to deal with an epidemic like this before, so they're learning how to deal with it on the fly. They'll be hit and miss in their effectiveness. But ignorance and ineptitude, and bad decisions don't make for a conspiracy.

I suspect the disease was accidentally 'leaked' out of the Wuhan lab, where the lab got samples of the virus from, would be censured information.
Hope you are doing well Tony and take care of yourself always.
 

ZNP

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It's sad we have to do this. We know it is a bit of a hit and a miss, but I'd hate to catch it and pass it onto anyone in the community if I didn't try to mitigate against that happening. I'd be devistated particularly if their immune system is suspect and they end up getting very sick and perhaps dying. I would feel like I contributed to their suffering. I know there's no guarantees, but at least I have to try.

Except for a couple of African countries, I don't think any other governments have had to deal with an epidemic like this before, so they're learning how to deal with it on the fly. They'll be hit and miss in their effectiveness. But ignorance and ineptitude, and bad decisions don't make for a conspiracy.

I suspect the disease was accidentally 'leaked' out of the Wuhan lab, where the lab got samples of the virus from, would be censured information.
How did we all of a sudden start talking about Jonestown?
 
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Hope you are doing well Tony and take care of yourself always.
Will do TNP, and same to you.
Sorry about what may have seemed a terse response from me in the 'other' forum, but I wanted it to reach far and wide. I realise there are cultural influences, and there would be conflicting feelings about what to do, and each has to work out their own salvation. I personally can't get past the commitment that after I became a Christian I had to let go of my natural cultural inheritance, and adopt what I believe to be the Christian Cultural Way. That's me working out my salvation, and I thought it could help others. Shalom 🙂
 

TheNarrowPath

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Will do TNP, and same to you.
Sorry about what may have seemed a terse response from me in the 'other' forum, but I wanted it to reach far and wide. I realise there are cultural influences, and there would be conflicting feelings about what to do, and each has to work out their own salvation. I personally can't get past the commitment that after I became a Christian I had to let go of my natural cultural inheritance, and adopt what I believe to be the Christian Cultural Way. That's me working out my salvation, and I thought it could help others. Shalom 🙂
I appreciate you taking the time to reply. Its all useful information for me whether I realise it now or later. I didnt think your response was terse at all, I just respect we may disagree from time to time but I think our differences make me want to know more about you and others train of thoughts. Peace :)
 
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I appreciate you taking the time to reply. Its all useful information for me whether I realise it now or later. I didnt think your response was terse at all, I just respect we may disagree from time to time but I think our differences make me want to know more about you and others train of thoughts. Peace :)
We learn from each other... it's a two way street 👍🙂
 

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This is patently wrong, unless you are saying God is our adversary.

Your suggestion is contradictory to the way God dealt with a troublesome Israel, and with those that troubled Israel. He uses diseases and other calamities to deal with problematic humans. We also get sick, and die of illnesses and injuries too, because God has given each and every one of us a physical life span. Moral evil is the realm of our adversaries, there is no moral evil that has come from God.

Once again you are incorrect.
That was old testament, in Christ ALL things become new, He said so Himself.
God had to deal in that way because there was no intercessor before Christ.
You are in error.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Once again you are incorrect.
That was old testament, in Christ ALL things become new, He said so Himself.
God had to deal in that way because there was no intercessor before Christ.
You are in error.
No, I'm not. But as in this and many of your other reckless posts, it is obvious your hearing has been stopped up. There are very few people on this site that I find difficult to tolerate, but your wanton corruption of God's word and ways is beyond pale.

I know Christian Chat is not an arm of the church, so it's caveat emptor, but if it was a part of the church I'm sure you would have been shown the door long ago. If however you were allowed to stay then I would have left, and shaken the dust off my feet on the way out.
 

shittim

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Thanks Penn Ed,
So sad that so very many have been taken advantage of by "health care professionals".
 

shittim

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No, I'm not. But as in this and many of your other reckless posts, it is obvious your hearing has been stopped up. There are very few people on this site that I find difficult to tolerate, but your wanton corruption of God's word and ways is beyond pale.

I know Christian Chat is not an arm of the church, so it's caveat emptor, but if it was a part of the church I'm sure you would have been shown the door long ago. If however you were allowed to stay then I would have left, and shaken the dust off my feet on the way out.[/QUOTE

Too many bring in the legalism of the old testament and lay it's burden on people. Paul spoke of this very thing quite extensively.
 

ZNP

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No, I'm not. But as in this and many of your other reckless posts, it is obvious your hearing has been stopped up. There are very few people on this site that I find difficult to tolerate, but your wanton corruption of God's word and ways is beyond pale.

I know Christian Chat is not an arm of the church, so it's caveat emptor, but if it was a part of the church I'm sure you would have been shown the door long ago. If however you were allowed to stay then I would have left, and shaken the dust off my feet on the way out.
OK, you have completely confused me with this reference. It sounds like you are agreeing with Shittim but you seem to be the one who is refusing his gospel message.

Luke 9:1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

Seems to me this is the point of what Shittim post was saying.

3 And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. 4 And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart. 5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

Now your post says that you would be the one that would not receive him or his gospel message.

So I'm confused, is your post a confession of sin?
 
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ChristianTonyB

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OK, you have completely confused me with this reference. It sounds like you are agreeing with Shittim but you seem to be the one who is refusing his gospel message.

Luke 9:1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

Seems to me this is the point of what Shittim post was saying.

3 And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. 4 And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart. 5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

Now your post says that you would be the one that would not receive him or his gospel message.

So I'm confused, is your post a confession of sin?
If you and he really knew the Lord, you wouldn't be confused. You're counterfeits. I'm mindful of what Jesus said of such as yourselves "Leave them alone/ignore them". I strive to obey Him, so that's what I will do.
 

ZNP

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If you and he really knew the Lord, you wouldn't be confused. You're counterfeits. I'm mindful of what Jesus said of such as yourselves "Leave them alone/ignore them". I strive to obey Him, so that's what I will do.
When you say "know the Lord" are you referring to Jesus Christ, the incarnated word of God? Because I am looking at this word and your posts don't make any sense unless you are indicting yourself. So I will pray for you.

2Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1John 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 

Nehemiah6

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I'll wait to see the long term effectiveness. How well it holds up to prevent it.
Deborah Birx has already admitted that she misled the world, and knew that the "vaccines" are useless. No need to wait for any more proof. 91% of those being hospitalized are those who were vaxxed. And every day a young healthy person drops dead of a heart attack.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Deborah Birx has already admitted that she misled the world, and knew that the "vaccines" are useless. No need to wait for any more proof. 91% of those being hospitalized are those who were vaxxed. And every day a young healthy person drops dead of a heart attack.
This is a reasonable conclusion, since between about 85 to 98% of adults in the richer countries have apparently been vaccinated. Most of the studies being done, and peer reviewed, are in the richer countries. They are being hospitalised, yes, but the rate of deaths is nowhere near that which was occurring before vaccines were produced. You're misusing the statistics.
 
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