Will There Be Sex in Heaven?

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Will There Be Sex in Heaven?


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G00WZ

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#41
So, before I sat down to type this post, I prayed and supplicated in the hopes that thunder wouldn't strike me for thinking these carnal thoughts...

Just kidding. Lol.

So, this is a legitimate question. I've heard a few arguments for and against. I started thinking about this after I heard about a famous preacher who spoke at a singles seminar. After one of the sessions, some young people approached him with trepidation and asked him if God would allow sex in Heaven. They looked embarrassed, but he told them that that was actually was a legitimate question. He could see that they were concerned that if they never got married on earth, they still wanted to experience marriage and all its benefits in Heaven. Too bad I don't remember the answer he gave them.

I don't have a clear opinion on the matter. Some people mention that Jesus said, "In the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage, but they are like angels in heaven [who do not marry nor produce children]" (Matthew 22:30). They use this verse to say that there won't be sex in Heaven. But this is talking about marriage and child-bearing, not sex.

My opinion on the matter is pure speculation: I basically reason that when God created man and woman and said that everything was "good", He obviously included sex in that. Since God gives and doesn't take away (ie. He doesn't take away anything that is good or anything that He gives since all He gives are good), God won't take away sex or make it obsolete in Heaven just because good things don't pass away. Looking through the Bible, I can't recall a single time when God gave a good thing and then took it away with the reasoning that it was no longer 'needed'.

What are your thoughts on this topic?
 
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#42
If there IS sex in heaven, I'm just curious -- and I'm asking out of sincerity, not sarcasm.

Solomon was married to the Pharaoh's daughter, along with many other wives and the Bible mentions 1000 concubines.

David had 8 names wives, but the Bible says he too had many others.

Do you think God will just pick one for them to have in heaven, or will they be allowed to spend time with each one?

And if only one woman is picked, what happens to all the others who were married?

Because if the married are allowed to keep having sex in heaven, it means they should have a right as well. But with who, if not their one earthly husband?
Those questions you asked are the type of questions I designate as having simple answers with the only problem being finding those simple answers.

I've wondered about a lot of quandaries. Example: two christians marry and have two kids, but the husband goes off to war or military service and disappears in a battle or skirmish. For all the military knows, he is dead, and the news gets back to his wife who, in the course of a year or two, remarries another christian man with whom she has two more kids. The one day, her first husband reappears. The enemy had taken him captive where he was for several years but managed to escape. The Bible says that a widow (or widower) can remarry. His wife remarried, but he was never dead. What is God's answer for this quandary? Is the first (and, really, true) husband supposed to drive off the new husband with his two kids and re-do his vows with his wife (since they're actually still married in a way) and move back in?

I once met a minister who was with his wife. I knew nothing about him, but I was disturbed that my spirit was picking up that they were not married and that his wife... was not his wife. I had no idea what this was about. A few days later, I learned from several other people in his ministry that the minister's wife had specifically left her own husband to marry this minister. Then I understood why my spirit sensed that they weren't married and that the wife wasn't the ministered wife. My spirit was discerning that as far as God was concerned, this marriage was not recognized in the spirit realm or by God as a [legitimate] marriage at all. So, while they were married, God didn't recognize them as husband and wife. So, this marriage thing isn't necessarily always simple. But God has the answers for all these quandaries.

I don't presume to know much about marriage, sex, and childbearing in eternity. I just know that all those things might be relevant, legitimate, and allowed in eternity. I don't let my or other people's understanding of Scriptures box me in so I can grow and learn things that others may think obsolete or impossible. For example, catholics talk about purgatory. While we know there is no purgatory, there is ample evidence that there is what I call 'an in-between place' between the land of the living and Heaven or Hell or the land of the dead. When one acknowledges that a.) no one can go to God but through Jesus Christ, that b.) many people die without having a chance to go to God through Jesus, and that c.) God will not condemn people who had no chance to be saved in 'the land of the living', it begins to become apparent (logically, not from a religious mindset) that there must be 'an in-between place' (or in-between places) where those who die before having a chance to be saved (aborted babies, children who die young, people who never heard of Jesus, etc.) do get a chance to be saved after they die. If this isn't true, then one would be hard-pressed to explain how God is loving and just but manages to 'follow the rules' (salvation through Christ alone) for those who die before having a chance at salvation. Lucky for us here, the Bible does mention some 'in-between places' like Sheol, the Grave, and Paradise and also tells us that Jesus 'preached' to those who died without Him (1Peter 3). However, I don't care for the proper names of 'in-between places' where people get a chance at salvation after death. I just know they exist through force of reason.

I believe the same 'logic' above applies when there are puzzles and quandaries regarding marriage, sex, and childbearing in eternity. I wouldn't be surprised if these things happen in eternity. In fact, I'd be surprised if sex is nullified in eternity. But as I said, I don't think much about it and I'm not worried about getting to eternity unmarried. It's just one of many things I ask God questions about. God knows how to sort out a plurality of wives for one husband (or husbands for one wife) and all other marriage quandaries in eternity. Our part is to not ask about it, ask and then give up, or ask and keep asking till He reveals those mysteries to us. I want to ask and keep asking till God reveals these things to me, because I've learned that God truly delights in those who pursue Him-- those who want to know Him on a deeper level than most (like Moses, as opposed to the rest of Israel, to whom God said, "Come up to Me on the mountain and be/stay there"-- Exodus 24:12). I believe that if I ask and keep asking about these mysteries regarding marriage, sex, and childbearing (I doubt I'll pursue unless I make time), He'll tell me as He has done with many mysteries in the past and up till now.
 

MsMediator

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#43
No, I don't think so. Jesus said we won't be married in Heaven; I believe that is a clear answer. Sex in heaven raises a lot of complications, as expected. What if a person had been married multiple times? What about singles?
 
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#44
My conscience must be broken. It also tells me what is right. It is right to help that person, it is right to say something to boost a friend's morale, it is right to give to people who need...

Is there anywhere I could get my conscience repaired? Only having a conscience that tells me what is wrong would be a whole lot easier.
There's a time for humor and this doesn't seem to be one of those times. I didn't phrase my words right. Your conscience lets you know the difference between right and wrong, so it plays a part in what's right. What I meant to say is that your conscience is passive when 'letting you know' what is right but is active when 'telling you' what is wrong.

If you have ever had close dealings with an abusive narcissist or someone who has NPD (narcissistic personality disorder), they are a very good source to observe what I was trying to say. They hate their conscience and don't have much if any left. Their conscience passively 'lets them know' what is good and right. Because that part of the conscience (that lets you know what is good and right) is passive, a narcissist doesn't wrestle much with that part of their conscience. Their wrestle and animosity is with the side of the conscience that 'tells you' what is bad and wrong because that is the side that is 'loud' or active.

Again, you see what I meant to say in animals as well. All humans and creatures have God's Nature in them (this is the part of a person or animal that makes them 'decent'-- able to care about others of the same specie (animal or human) without effort (because it's the passive side), able to take care of their children without effort, etc.). But animals aren't advanced like humans who don't only know how to do good but also know how to do evil. You won't see many animals in mourning because they want to do something bad but their conscience is actively telling them not to. However, this happens with humans all the time. The side of your conscience that promotes good is passive and pretty quiet whereas the side of your conscience that seeks to discourage you from evil is active and obvious.

I have a lot of things to say. I can only say one thing at a time. Next time, be humble and ask what I meant to say rather than supposing that I was only saying what I had said. One thing at a time. I can't talk about black and white simultaneously. But just because I talk about one doesn't mean I don't recognize the existence and relevance of the other. Your instinct, intuition, and conscience are all distinct and have distinct jobs. These are things I prefer to just say and let people go research for themselves rather than explaining.
 

Roughsoul1991

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#45
I was wondering about this too.

I was under the impression that if this actually was a time when angels were reproducing, it was forbidden, because it was with humans, and an act of rebellion against God's design.

But I don't think anyone really knows from this side of earthly life.

Maybe it was possible, but I guess I was just under the impression that it was neither good nor endorsed (in this case -- maybe there were other cases in which God found it acceptable?) It's always been interesting to me that most human cultures have erroneous but traditional stories about "half-lings" created between super beings and humans. Makes you wonder if every myth was based on just a little shred of truth (as in, something that really happened, just in another way than described in human mythologies.)

Have angels ever reproduced with other angels?

It's yet another question thrown onto the pile of my increasingly growing mountain of "Things to Ask God Someday."
More interesting is that the blood line of the Nephilim had to be I or of Noah's sons or his son's wives.

This is the only way Goliath could be of Nephilim blood.

Why didn't God destroy the bloodline?

Scripture says we will be like the angels but not in total sameness.

We know we will have perfect physical resurrected bodies but no marriage at the resurrection. But yet in Isiah in context of a new earth there will be children being born. In less this is a prophetic inclination for a modern event but a semi truth for the future.
 
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#46
The more evidence I see, I might end up changing my answer to yes.
 

TheNarrowPath

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#47
No, I don't think so. Jesus said we won't be married in Heaven; I believe that is a clear answer. Sex in heaven raises a lot of complications, as expected. What if a person had been married multiple times? What about singles?
Thats how I see it. Take away the sex, take away the complications that are rife on earth already.
 

Live4Him3

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#48
I also like Franklin Graham's (or was it his father's?) answer to Sean Hannity when he asked him if there was sex in Heaven. Graham's answer was "Unless there's something better..."

He also tells us that Heaven has things in it we cannot imagine. That's not an understatement. I think we'll see colors that go beyond the current limits of our eyes. Things that apply here may not apply there. Or... there may just be a higher order of... everything. So, what seems wrong to us now does so because it is... but in the new earth, where all things will be restored, and things that we cannot imagine will also be there, I think sex or something like it or better than it can also exist.
If it was Billy Graham, then I'd take everything that he may have said about heaven with a grain of salt (or the whole salt shaker).

Billy Graham had some totally-off-the-wall beliefs about "heaven" that in no way, shape, or form align themselves with Biblical teachings.

Don't take my word for it.

You can listen to him yourself in the following video starting around the 14:20 mark.

You'll hear him tell Johnny Carson that Christians will allegedly "be able to go from planet to planet, and from one part of the universe to another...and we're going to have other worlds to conquer."

I don't know what "Bible" he was reading...

 
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#50
Have angels ever reproduced with other angels?

It's yet another question thrown onto the pile of my increasingly growing mountain of "Things to Ask God Someday."
Ask Him now. Wisdom (or understanding, knowledge, prudence, discretion, and the rest of those) is something God is always willing to give even at times when He might be withholding other things. James 1:5 therefore says, "If any one of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God who gives liberally to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him."

What is James telling them to ask for? Wisdom. What does God give liberally and without chiding or making the person who is asking for it feel bad for not already having it? Wisdom. If there's anything God gives liberally (not sparingly), it's wisdom, because wisdom always leads to God. ("I pray that [God] would give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him" - Ephesians 1:17.)

Ask, and keep asking. The answers to your questions probably won't come immediately like a Georgia downpour; but it will begin to come slowly (the still small voice or subtle dreams or/and visions) like a misting rain. It will usually take a while to start realizing He's answering and responding. But if you keep asking, He'll start responding.
 
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#51
I also like Franklin Graham's (or was it his father's?) answer to Sean Hannity when he asked him if there was sex in Heaven. Graham's answer was "Unless there's something better..."

He also tells us that Heaven has things in it we cannot imagine. That's not an understatement. I think we'll see colors that go beyond the current limits of our eyes. Things that apply here may not apply there. Or... there may just be a higher order of... everything. So, what seems wrong to us now does so because it is... but in the new earth, where all things will be restored, and things that we cannot imagine will also be there, I think sex or something like it or better than it can also exist.
Well said. Someone else mentioned that people won't be in Heaven but on the new earth. So the notion of sex on earth-- new or old-- doesn't sound nearly as blasphemous as sex in Heaven.
 
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#52
What evidence? I wasn't aware of what your answer was or is.
I voted maybe based off the idea that Matthew 22 doesn’t confirm or deny they couples who were married before the resurrection would have their marriage nullified.

Then someone made a comment about how angels bred with humans. As far as I can tell Genesis 6:4 is about angels and woman making babies. So for me the evidence weighs more in favor of yes, but the Bible never directly says “there’s sex in heaven.”

I just see many rational reasons why, that’s more likely a yes, including some of the reasons in your OP.
 

Lynx

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#53
Next time, be humble and ask what I meant to say rather than supposing that I was only saying what I had said.
Every time I have ever heard person A tell person B to be humble, it has always told me a lot more about person A than B.

You have mentioned logic and reason a lot, but you also need information to process with logic and reason. Matters like a hypothetical purgatory and sex in heaven are things you can't figure out because you have no information to work with. For example, you don't even know how our new bodies will work. If we don't marry in Heaven, I'm betting our new bodies won't have a sex drive.

To borrow Sherlock's analogy, you are trying to make many bricks with very little clay. This leads to all kinds of things you "know" because you have used logic, but you could be very wrong about because you don't have any information to use your logic on.
 

MsMediator

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#54
There is no need to populate the new earth though new people. There will already be a lot of people in Heaven accumulated though the generations. I don't find that a good argument.
 

Amanuensis

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#55
You already quoted the scripture. Marriage is only a temporal earthly relationship. We don't continue it in heaven. We don't have sex.
Remember the background of the verse was which one of the seven men would have the widow as wife in heaven. The answer was none of them. There won't be any marriage or sex in heaven.

This should help those who think that sex is so important to their identity. It frees them from this false concept. One can live a very rewarding life on earth without it. Too much lust is involved in sex that is not what God intended. The marriage bed is undefiled but the mind of men often is.
 
G

Gojira

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#56
There's a time for humor and this doesn't seem to be one of those times. I didn't phrase my words right. Your conscience lets you know the difference between right and wrong, so it plays a part in what's right. What I meant to say is that your conscience is passive when 'letting you know' what is right but is active when 'telling you' what is wrong.

If you have ever had close dealings with an abusive narcissist or someone who has NPD (narcissistic personality disorder), they are a very good source to observe what I was trying to say. They hate their conscience and don't have much if any left. Their conscience passively 'lets them know' what is good and right. Because that part of the conscience (that lets you know what is good and right) is passive, a narcissist doesn't wrestle much with that part of their conscience. Their wrestle and animosity is with the side of the conscience that 'tells you' what is bad and wrong because that is the side that is 'loud' or active.

Again, you see what I meant to say in animals as well. All humans and creatures have God's Nature in them (this is the part of a person or animal that makes them 'decent'-- able to care about others of the same specie (animal or human) without effort (because it's the passive side), able to take care of their children without effort, etc.). But animals aren't advanced like humans who don't only know how to do good but also know how to do evil. You won't see many animals in mourning because they want to do something bad but their conscience is actively telling them not to. However, this happens with humans all the time. The side of your conscience that promotes good is passive and pretty quiet whereas the side of your conscience that seeks to discourage you from evil is active and obvious.

I have a lot of things to say. I can only say one thing at a time. Next time, be humble and ask what I meant to say rather than supposing that I was only saying what I had said. One thing at a time. I can't talk about black and white simultaneously. But just because I talk about one doesn't mean I don't recognize the existence and relevance of the other. Your instinct, intuition, and conscience are all distinct and have distinct jobs. These are things I prefer to just say and let people go research for themselves rather than explaining.
Well said. And right on.
 

JesusLives

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TabinRivCA

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#59
We will be in Spirit bodies and be the 'Bride of Christ'. The 'joy unspeakable and full of glory' sounds good to me😇.