Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

TruthSeekerJG

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it's a community within a larger community. not my personal friends, known by friends who live in the same county.

you know, all our kids are grown and gone, but we have grandbabies about 45 minutes from the anti-vax group, so i worry.

my husband and i were very good friends with a couple from church when our kids were growing up, and they didn't vax their kids. when all twelve of them (yup! 12 lol) had pertussis our friends were scrupulous about staying home till every last one was well. i dropped a meal on their porch and heard the coughing from there... have you ever? one of their sons, who was about 15 at the time of infection, told me when he grew up he thought he was going to die, and in fact wished he might have.

i didn't do the covid shot; i'm just tryna think through the implications of no vaccines at all. our friends' kids all had to be vax-ed to attend college or join the military, which they all did do one or the other.

just thinking out loud :)
Once again made a mistake and crossed terms. He was threatened with honorable discharge, not court martial.
 

ZNP

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It's called Antibody Dependent Enhancement. And it's only going to get worse:

I think we should all be extremely thankful to the Australians. They are descended from felons, you would think they would be wary of the government having their best interests at heart and yet they willingly have given themselves up to be a human sacrifice in this experiment. They weren't paid to do this, of their own free will they walked into those clinics and let them inject that stuff into them so that those of us who do not trust liars could see the data for ourselves. 96% of the adult population! Wow.
 

ZNP

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You're a good man Charlie Brown

Uh oh, this study does not look good. Screen Shot 2022-08-04 at 8.22.31 AM.png
 
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Maybe I should have also stated that I was not defending or endorsing the Flu(influenza) vaccine but instead had noticed that no one could have possibly taken it before it was invented?
That's called the straw man logical fallacy. No one was arguing the flu vaccine caused the "Spanish flu", anymore than anyone was arguing that it was Spanish.
 
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I think we should all be extremely thankful to the Australians. They are descended from felons, you would think they would be wary of the government having their best interests at heart and yet they willingly have given themselves up to be a human sacrifice in this experiment. They weren't paid to do this, of their own free will they walked into those clinics and let them inject that stuff into them so that those of us who do not trust liars could see the data for ourselves. 96% of the adult population! Wow.
The real felons they hanged or shot (e.g. Ned Kelly). All that are left are the descendants of coppers (the corrupt ones, which is most) and government stooges. There are a few hold-outs, but not many. Some took the hit for family and friends (gotta pay those mortgages), but I look at it in the way I'd sooner have my friend around in 5 years time, than my friend's debts are all paid but he is dead. A lot of sick pro-vaxxers where I work, but those I've talked to will bend over again if the government says "monkey-pox vaxx!" And I'm pretty sure it will.
 
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Ruby123

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We were forced to in WA unless you escaped somewhere, nobody knows where this somewhere actually is.
 

PennEd

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I would like to see a peer reviewed study of the infection rate of the covid19 for the vaccinated vs the unvaccinated
Here is just pure data from a Drug Store that tests people for Covid so they can travel. Most likely abroad. The figures you see are % of each individual subset. NOT a % of the total. Definitive proof that the vaccinated are getting Covid MORE than the unvaccinated:

I will also post the episode from the Highwire that breaks this down. It starts at about the 3:30 mark:
NEW DATA: VAXXED GETTING COVID MORE THAN UNVAXXED - The HighWire

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We were forced to in WA unless you escaped somewhere, nobody knows where this somewhere actually is.
Some of us just said no. But you are right. There were different consequences for different people. If it was a matter of your family starving because you said no, because the tyrant government wouldn't let you work unvaxxed - and I know such people - very difficult choice. God provided for me, but I viewed the situation in a spiritual light (maybe incorrectly) more than other Christians I know, who viewed it as just another government inconvenience.

To me, this seemed like one step from the mark of the Beast, if it wasn't already. I now believe it probably wasn't, but the mark might be pretty similar. Hopefully, Christians won't be around for that, though.
 
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Ruby123

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Some of us just said no. But you are right. There were different consequences for different people. If it was a matter of your family starving because you said no, because the tyrant government wouldn't let you work unvaxxed - and I know such people - very difficult choice. God provided for me, but I viewed the situation in a spiritual light (maybe incorrectly) more than other Christians I know, who viewed it as just another government inconvenience.
There were severe consequences in this state. My bro in law who owns his own small building business and my sister who works for the business were going to get fined $20,000 each if they did not get it. There was termination of employment, no entry to shops etc etc.
 
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There were severe consequences in this state. My bro in law who owns his own small building business and my sister who works for the business were going to get fined $20,000 each if they did not get it. There was termination of employment, no entry to shops etc etc.
Ya, I know. I lived through it. I don't know how many times I was asked to wear a mask, and I was trying to only go out whenever absolutely necessary, 'cause I didn't want to get beaten and arrested by the police if I got into some debate with a pro-masker/pro-vaxxer! ;-) I felt like a Jew in Nazi Germany, but at least as a Jew, you could just hide your gold star. Much harder to hide that you're not wearing a mask! And unvaccinated - well, yeah, I just didn't try to go to places that seemed militant on vaccines.

Some of us are still hoping to see those government bureaucrats responsible in court for this abuse of human rights. Because if they're not held to account, next time will be even worse.
 

PennEd

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There were severe consequences in this state. My bro in law who owns his own small building business and my sister who works for the business were going to get fined $20,000 each if they did not get it. There was termination of employment, no entry to shops etc etc.
Outrageous beyond words.

I don't know how these people think that whatever security they employ from the enraged populace who will tear them limb from limb as the deaths and carnage from the vaccine pile up will save them.
 
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Outrageous beyond words.

I don't know how these people think that whatever security from the enraged populace who will tear them limb from limb as the deaths and carnage from the vaccine pile up will save them.
Australians are pretty forgiving. They've been well-tamed. As they largely believe in the benefits of vaccines, the government has gotten away with it thus far. If the lamestream fake news is taken out of the way, and the people realise what these government goons have done to them and especially their children... I'm going to sit back and eat popcorn, while the nazis get exactly what they deserve. It's sad it had to come to this, but there was no other way. I've been telling people that vaccines are evil for more than a decade, but I'm written off as a tinfoil hat wearing loon, even by some of my own family.

There's probably 10 or 20% of the population on our side already, as they were basically coerced into receiving the vaxx - threats of or actual loss of jobs, fines etc. - all illegal coercion. But 80% is still a big number to be supporting such government tyranny. TV is very powerful.
 

ZNP

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The real felons they hanged or shot (e.g. Ned Kelly). All that are left are the descendants of coppers (the corrupt ones, which is most) and government stooges. There are a few hold-outs, but not many. Some took the hit for family and friends (gotta pay those mortgages), but I look at it in the way I'd sooner have my friend around in 5 years time, than my friend's debts are all paid but he is dead. A lot of sick pro-vaxxers where I work, but those I've talked to will bend over again if the government says "monkey-pox vaxx!" And I'm pretty sure it will.
The way I look at it is that all these ones who took the vaccine and are dying can be the first in line to be healed during the tribulation. The sin that caused the people to be bitten of the serpents was that they despised the manna, the daily time in the word of God. We will see a great repentance at the start of the tribulation and I think this vaccine with the kill shot will help with that repentance.
 
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The way I look at it is that all these ones who took the vaccine and are dying can be the first in line to be healed during the tribulation. The sin that caused the people to be bitten of the serpents was that they despised the manna, the daily time in the word of God. We will see a great repentance at the start of the tribulation and I think this vaccine with the kill shot will help with that repentance.
I hope so. Some very loving Christian people took this evil medicine. Jesus tells us to be innocent and shrewd. I tend to fail struggle at being innocent. I think maybe these struggle at being shrewd.
 

ZNP

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Some of us just said no. But you are right. There were different consequences for different people. If it was a matter of your family starving because you said no, because the tyrant government wouldn't let you work unvaxxed - and I know such people - very difficult choice. God provided for me, but I viewed the situation in a spiritual light (maybe incorrectly) more than other Christians I know, who viewed it as just another government inconvenience.

To me, this seemed like one step from the mark of the Beast, if it wasn't already. I now believe it probably wasn't, but the mark might be pretty similar. Hopefully, Christians won't be around for that, though.
I was urgent to my wife to retire. We sold our house, the process took us months and we didn't close until the beginning of March, however we had a contract in December. Immediately after the close they raised interest rates. If we had tried to sell after that point we probably would not have been able to and even if we could we would have lost over $120k in equity. Also, when my wife resigned her job in October she had to sell her IRA holdings in November. Since that time those funds are down 30%. Responding immediately made it very feasible economically, if we had waited just a few months we could have still moved, but it would have been without any hope of buying a house, still better than those in Ukraine who had to flee after the bombs started dropping.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Have you seen the new Pfizer commercial? Pushes the vaccine, shows businesses reopening, and then says something along the lines of, get the vaccine so businesses can stay open and we can shop there.

People with the ''vaccine'' already have a COVID vaccine ID paper, a certificate of vaccination ID.

What's next? Must show the ID in order to shop?
Will there be a new strain resurgence, another lockdown? Are we going to move beyond the identity of essential worker so to be freed from our homes?
I talked to someone who works for the local gt yesterday who told me that is what he suspects. They are already putting up signs around his work telling people to get the shots and record available. He was threatened the loss if his job if he didn't get two so far.
 

shittim

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That is protected information here in the U.S., should only be between the Dr. and patient.