Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

shittim

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"Cocktail" is correct. Not to mention the multiple cocktail shots. Exactly, I would think the enemy would try his best to prevent our bodies from regenerating and once we realize how toxic our environment is, then we know something is wrong. Out of convenience we have destroyed ourselves, finding out the consequences later in life.

That's also another way of taking care of ourselves. Thankful you mentioned the toiletries! There ARE alternative toiletries (toothpastes, soaps, etc). If we can discipline ourselves to do the research, simply searching "healthy" alternatives to conventional, then I think we have a higher percentage of fighting back to take back our temples and glorify God. That's how serious I think we should be. Yes, it might be more expensive, but not as expensive by spending thousands to go to the doctor every time, or a clinic to get antibiotics. Which can do more harm than good by killing ALL bacteria within the gut (bad, plus good). We need good gut bacteria.

-Dr. Bronners Soap
-Toothpaste without crap (glycerin, fluoride, triclosan, sls, dea, artificial sugars, propylene glycol, microbeads. All natural as possible. Mom got me "Jadebloom" toothpaste.
-Stay away from processed, greasy foods as much as possible. Don't microwave as much as possible because it causes mutations of the cells. Use oven, stove top, griddle, open fire mostly.
-Drink filtered water as much as possible and stay away from plastic bottles. "Berkey" gravity filters are amazing and can go up to 2000 gallons. Especially in grid down situation.
-Hepa filters for clean air, don't know much about ionizers (need to do more research.)
-Cardiovascular exercise to increase circulation and to get rid of toxins faster, plus strength exercises.

And many many more ways.
The microwave thing throws me, cells need to be alive to mutate, causing the cells in a food to vibrate causing them to heat and cook, breaking them down.... that doesn't add up to me.
 

ZNP

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The microwave thing throws me, cells need to be alive to mutate, causing the cells in a food to vibrate causing them to heat and cook, breaking them down.... that doesn't add up to me.
My understanding which may not be correct is that the nano particles will stick to your DNA, since they have metallic properties if you send 5G through your body they can read the nano particles like a bar code. Since everyone has different DNA they will each have a unique bar code.
 

Moses_Young

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The microwave thing throws me, cells need to be alive to mutate, causing the cells in a food to vibrate causing them to heat and cook, breaking them down.... that doesn't add up to me.
I'd say mutate is the wrong word. The microwave causes chemical reactions to occur within the food. So the food that goes into your body could contain a whole bunch of plastics or strange compounds, resultant of the microwaves penetrating into the substance.

I'm not sure if the theory is true, but I believe it. That's why microwaved food doesn't taste as good. There's a story (I don't know if true) of a nurse that microwaves blood up to temperature, rather than heating it properly. It killed the patient it was given to, because it wasn't blood anymore. Maybe bad example, because blood is alive, but food is not. Still - I don't believe microwaving is a healthy way to cook.
 

shittim

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I am aware of warnings to not microwave in plastic, use glass instead.
At my advanced age I have lived longer that what some of these practices should have done me in.
 

PennEd

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Isn't Klaus the head of the World Economic Forum or some such? He said by 2030 the worlds people would own nothing and like it?

Their old and rich and talking about us. Not them and their rich buddies.

We're their slave race. There will always be more.
There is something extremely significant about the years 2030 - 2033..


They also happen to be almost exactly 2000 yrs, or two days, by God’s reckoning, since Jesus left us the first time.


Hosea 6
New King James Version



A Call to Repentance
6 Come, and let us return to the Lord;
For He has torn, but He will heal us;
He has stricken, but He will bind us up.
2 After two days He will revive us;
On the third day He will raise us up,
That we may live in His sight.

Notice on the third day (1000 yrs) WE live in his sight!!
 

wolfwint

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Jesus was a revolutionary in the eyes of the Sanhedrin. Which is why they illegally arrested and tried him.

He must not be allowed to set an example,a precedent, that goes beyond the strictures of the temple leaders controls of the majority sheep,faithful.

Interestingly though, when the Roman Governor Pilate questioned Jesus to determine if he'd broken secular Roman law Pilate found he had not.
Then he washed his hands of the whole thing.

It was the Sanhedrin and very likely their command over their people that led to a crowd of Jews demanding Jesus crucifixion.
When afforded the opportunity to advantage Rome's tradition of showing mercy to a Jewish prisoner near to Passover, the gathered crowd asked the zealot Barrabas be pardoned. Not Jesus, whose miracles they'd witnessed or been blessed with.

And then God's ''chosrn people'' laid a curse upon themselves and their future generations. Asking that Jesus blood be upon their heads and those of their children.

And so it is.

A parable in itself really.
But Jesus never broke the law!
 

shittim

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Jesus healed on the Sabbath, breaking the Law.
Jesus and His disciples gathered grain from wheat and ate on the Sabbath.

Jesus freed us from the law.
Jesus told us clearly that in Him ALL things become new.
 

Moses_Young

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Jesus healed on the Sabbath, breaking the Law.
Which law? Man's or God's? Is it accurate to say Jesus broke the law? Because if He broke it, how could He fulfill it?

Jesus and His disciples gathered grain from wheat and ate on the Sabbath.

Jesus freed us from the law.
Jesus told us clearly that in Him ALL things become new.
I thought Jesus' freeing us from the law was by His fulfilling it for us. He fulfilled the law and died in our place, so we don't have to.
 

shittim

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The Law of Moses was in place in Jesus time, that they did not grasp that He was the Messiah come to free them from the Law caused them to accuse Him of breaking the Law of Moses.
Because they rejected Him, He went to the cross and paid the price for sin for all who accept Him as Savior and make Him Lord of their lives.
While He was alive He had not yet paid the price.
 

wolfwint

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I would be taking an effective useful vaccine in a heartbeat buddy. As long as it wasn't being made through aborted fetal cell lines.

The government completely ruin their trust with these mRNA vaccines. The lied their fool heads off from day one and are maliciously intentionally covering up massive vaccine injuries IMO.

Where are the old school type vaccines for COVID? They don't make those anymore?
So.

What's your point?
If Jesus did not broke the human laws. Then also we should not. Or do I see this wrong?
 

ZNP

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But Jesus never broke the law!
HaHa, you are a funny guy. Jesus was crucified by the religious leaders who claimed He broke their law.

Whether or not He actually did break the law is kind of irrelevant once they are scourging you and nailing you to the cross.
 

ZNP

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If Jesus did not broke the human laws. Then also we should not. Or do I see this wrong?
Yes you see it wrong. The Bible never says to obey humans, it says to obey the authority. The ultimate authority is God. As a result when Peter was charged not to preach in the name of Jesus he asked "is it better to listen to you or to God". If man is commanding you to do something and God is commanding something else then of course, you listen to God.

This is why I reference the Nuremberg laws concerning the vaccine. These laws trump any national or state regulation.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Just contracted COVID last Wednesday. Got it from my wife. Taking ivermectin it seems to be controlling it. Coughing up phlegm the third day. Actually felt great for the first 3-4 days. Good mood good energy. But now I am suffering tremendous fatigue and crummy moods. Sleeping all day. But nothing in the way of fever or coughing or breathing problems.

Wife was extremely weak shaking and feverish is the first day. Totally wiped out. Ivermectin cleared that up fast. Now like me she's mostly suffering from tremendous fatigue.

God willing this is over in the next few days.

My 70+ year old friend just got it couple of weeks earlier before us. No test but certainly COVID. Totally wrecked him I think it's been about 3 weeks.......He's finally recovering.

The craziest part of this is this constant smell of burnt rubber. My buddy confirms it happened to him too.

Going for an infrared sauna tonight. Hope that clears me up.
As to detoxing with the sauna, if you don't mind me adding this...

When I first got run down with what very possibly was CV19, I was at my job site and too weak to get up on the roof to work that morning. I didn't have immune boosting supplements or herbs available there, but the sun was shining. Knowing that I was likely D3 deficient, I took my shirt off, rolled up my pants and sunbathed in the middle of the field next to me. D3 you probably know is a hormone (called a vitamin) that is produced when the skin is exposed to the sun during the warm months. It's important for immune function.
After a while a turkey vulture spotted me and started circling. I decided to be careful to not fall asleep 😄,🦅 but when I got up I felt better and my energy returned. I was able to work on that roof and go back home at night. Morning is the best time to sunbath to prevent bad burns and get the benefit.

Ivermectin is not only anthelmintic/ parasiticide, but helps the Zinc get into cells. Zinc is deficient in most foods and has low absorption. If you supplement, I would make sure there's some food on your stomach before taking. Avoid the oxide form. It can upset your stomach. If you can't eat, drink lots of water and cut the supplement into small doses. It can be taken more frequently that way, but needs LOTs of water.

Hope you get over this soon.

To your health!
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If Jesus did not broke the human laws. Then also we should not. Or do I see this wrong?
Using that logic, we should just go around healing people as did Jesus. Don't take any vaccines and forget the ER, doctors in general and let's just demolish hospitals.

Let's not pretend we all do what Jesus did every day and hide behind that in some kind of illegitimate argument that is nothing more than virtue signaling.

:giggle: :whistle:
 

PennEd

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If Jesus did not broke the human laws. Then also we should not. Or do I see this wrong?
Who is breaking what human laws?

And by the way, it was breaking the law to hide or not turn in Jews in Nazi Germany.

Do you think Jesus would have turned people over to be gassed and burned?
 
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Who is breaking what human laws?

And by the way, it was breaking the law to hide or not turn in Jews in Nazi Germany.

Do you think Jesus would have turned people over to be gassed and burned?
Given the ideology @wolfwint has shared, maybe we should ask him if he would have obeyed man's law and turned in the Jews to be gassed and burned?
He currently resides in Germany. The WW2 history is still a stark reminder there.
And there are laws against Holocaust denial as well.
 

ZNP

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Given the ideology @wolfwint has shared, maybe we should ask him if he would have obeyed man's law and turned in the Jews to be gassed and burned?
He currently resides in Germany. The WW2 history is still a stark reminder there.
And there are laws against Holocaust denial as well.
The Nuremberg trials already answered this question, claiming you were simply "following orders" is not a defense when committing crimes against humanity. Machine gunning a bunch of elderly to fall into a ditch, or gassing people in these camps or even administering kill shots is not something that you can claim "I was just following orders" and avoid being prosecuted.