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ZNP

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Thank you. Couldn't have said it better.
JTB still needs to back up this claim

“Jesus is not on the ballot. Yet trump and his cronies insist that He is on the ballot under trumps name.” Post #51 on the thread Trump 24.

I have asked for the name of the person who has done this and a citation for at least one crony and for Trump. I asked in both post #54 and #56 on that same thread. The only citation JTB has given is Mike Lindell who is a friend of Trump but the citation did not make any claim that Trump is Jesus incarnated, instead the quote had Mike saying that he felt that Trump was chosen by God and that his election was miraculous and an answer to the prayers of the believers. All of that can be strongly supported by the way in which Trump was elected, his moving the embassy to Jerusalem on the year of the Jubilee, and his appointment of 3 pro life judges resulting in Roe V. Wade being overturned, especially when you consider RBG dying one month before the election. Samson chose the jawbone of an ass to defeat the Midianites, doesn't mean the jawbone of an ass is Jesus incarnate or some cult leader.

If JTB's claim is true I want to see it. This would support his other wild tin foil hat claims of Trump being the Antichrist and of Trump being a cult leader. If it is false it is ungodly slander that JTB accuses others of engaging in.
 

ZNP

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Where there is smoke there is fire

No one can deny that around Trump there has been a whole lot of smoke. During the Mueller investigation I felt quite confident that he would get to the bottom of it and if Trump was guilty of a crime he would be convicted. Three years later he concluded his investigation and all of a sudden the MSM went completely silent on it. I wanted to know what the conclusion was and they wouldn't talk about it. I thought that is ridiculous, you lead us on for three years and now when it is over you don't say a word? Nope. I started searching on the airwaves and the internet to find someone who would discuss Mueller's findings and that is when I learned that the investigation led to Clinton and her campaign. That made me angry, I don't care who is guilty, prosecute them. Mueller is supposed to be independent, that means he doesn't work for Clinton or Trump. There were also two impeachments and the NY AG all going after Trump. I didn't care, if he was guilty of a crime by all means investigate and prosecute. It was very easy for me to believe this NY Real Estate developer had dirt.

But then, just like Paul being bitten by the snake on the island of Malta my opinion flipped. The facts are that there have been so many investigations, millions spent to find some crime, any crime, and with all the outlandish accusations made if there was a crime they would have found it. So instead I begin to feel the fire is on the other side. If you are going to "drain the swamp" it makes sense that the swamp creatures would have an issue with that and attack. So to me this attack on Trump after four years was a confirmation that he was truly going to drain the swamp.

However, no one can deny that Trump speaks with the jawbone of an ass. But I find it very hypocritical that people use that as proof that no Christian or sane person should support him. I think it is reasonable after a war where they lied to us about why we were going to war and they lied to us about when the war would be over, and then to top it all off they stole the homes of millions of Americans and didn't prosecute a single criminal, after all that it is reasonable that people would want a president who would drain the swamp. You have the right to pray to God that He would send a "champion" to bring deliverance from these evil and corrupt leaders. What you don't have the right to do is say "I want someone to drain the swamp, wrestle with these swamp creatures, and he can't have any mud on him".

So then what JTB and PostHuman think is evidence that Trump is some kind of cult leader claiming to be Jesus incarnate to me is evidence that the swamp creatures fear him, hate him, and for good reason. All the mud on him tells me this guy is used to deal with swamp creatures, he is exactly the guy I want to go catch some gators and pythons.
 

ZNP

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Trump Supporter

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ZNP

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As you have done it will be done unto you

We are about to see the seven year tribulation begin and during that time all Christians will be labeled as domestic terrorist, the enemy of the state and ultimately if they refuse to worship the one world god then they will be beheaded. If you think Trump is some horrible cult leader who is a domestic terrorist well guess what, if you hope to hold onto eternal salvation with the Lord then you too will be painted with that same brush.

https://rumble.com/v1h153f-you-will-be-labeled-a-global-terrorist-08232022.html
 

ZNP

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Here is what I can't stand -- they were for the policy but today tell you they were always against the consequences of those policies.

There will be a person who has been supporting the democrats. They support progressive reforms, like prison reform, and they felt walls were racists, etc., etc,

But now when you see rampant crime in the city they were always against that. They were always against fentanyl deaths and want people to do something about it.

They can't see, and by that I mean they absolutely refuse to see that the policies they were supporting had the outcomes they were against. They want prison reform but they were never for more crime on the streets. They want an open border but were never for 100,000 people dying from drug overdoses. They support a woman's right to choose when it comes to killing the baby she conceived saying the government has no interest in this matter and needs to keep their hands off her body, but when it comes to vaccine mandates that is fine, the government can fire, slander and destroy people who don't want the vaccine.

In reality they don't stand for anything because they will never be accountable for anything. The policies have consequences, you cannot say you were for the policy but against the consequences.
 

ZNP

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Know this, if you take good money and put it after bad investments you will be broke.

Joe Biden has decided to forgive $10,000 in college debt for anyone making less than $125,000 a year. Even students going to or having just graduated from an elite university will be making less than $125,000. You are taking good money, money from Taxpayers which means they are productive members of society and you are giving it to people with $10,000 in college loans. Maybe they have good degrees in engineering or medicine or some other major that will result in them being very productive members of society, in which case they don't need this loan forgiveness. For those people you are robbing from the poor and giving it to the rich. For others they have a useless degree that cost them a lot of money without any benefit. For these people it is was a very bad investment, so for them you are taking good money and sending it after bad.

You could have given tax rebates to all taxpayers, but instead you chose to penalize blue collar workers and reward a whole bunch of kids who just spent four years partying at college. You can assume that anyone who graduated more than 20 years ago has either paid off their college loans or makes more than $125,000 a year. The bulk of this money will be going to people younger than 35 who went from college to a cubicle or even worse, to their parents basement.

Suppose instead of borrowing $300k for your child to get a degree in gender studies at an Ivy league school you loaned that money to your kid to become a plumber, get his tools and a pickup. By the time he is 35 he is making more than 125,000 a year. They present all these studies showing that a college degree will pay for itself over your lifetime. What they don't tell you is that felons, gang members, drug addicts, high school dropouts are all bringing the average down for those who didn't go to college. In other words, if you kid could go to college it doesn't mean they will be better off if they do. You should not be comparing apples and oranges. Instead take a group of kids, all of whom could go to college, and compare those who choose not to with those who chose to go. You get a very different picture.

This is what Biden just admitted to. If going to college is such a great investment why do they all need this handout?

Here is the conclusion of the matter. The US economy will collapse and it is because of these deals by the politicians. They are the absolute worst people to be investing your money. The more they take taxpayer money to reward their "friends" the more quickly the US collapses. Do not say you are for this debt forgiveness today but were against the US financial collapse next month. The one is a consequence of the other.
 

Nehemiah6

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The US economy will collapse and it is because of these deals by the politicians.
But that is exactly the plan put in place from day one. Everyone has lost track of the trillions of dollars that have gone down the drain since after Ronald Reagan. Once the economy collapses, there will be riots, followed by heavy-handed arrests, detentions, and executions. This is the pattern of all totalitarian regimes. The real issue is the total inaction of the Special Forces and Marines in the face of domestic enemies hijacking the country.
 

ZNP

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But that is exactly the plan put in place from day one. Everyone has lost track of the trillions of dollars that have gone down the drain since after Ronald Reagan. Once the economy collapses, there will be riots, followed by heavy-handed arrests, detentions, and executions. This is the pattern of all totalitarian regimes. The real issue is the total inaction of the Special Forces and Marines in the face of domestic enemies hijacking the country.
Reminds me of the Coverstone dream with the vacuum hooked up to congress spewing dollars out of the building into the air
 

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I'm sorry to hear of your eye trouble. But "little meme"? That takes up the whole screen on my system. I always feared it was too big lol :)

Glad you will not vote for him again. But honestly, once again, we will still be given the choice between two evils.

I honestly can't vote for either party.
People such as myself browse the online forums from my phone... it does make meme's difficult

I will vote right. I can't sit back and do nothing as the Marxists take over.
 

ZNP

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How do we triumph?

  1. to conquer
    1. to carry off the victory, come off victorious
      1. of Christ, victorious over all His foes
      2. of Christians, that hold fast their faith even unto death against the power of their foes, and temptations and persecutions
      3. when one is arraigned or goes to law, to win the case, maintain one's cause

Revelation 12:11 They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony;

This is how we triumph.

Step 1 is to have the full assurance of faith in the redeeming work of the Lord and the cleansing blood.

Step 2 is to speak the word of your testimony.

I love how the Lord says "word of your testimony". Every believer has a testimony, but you triumph by "the word of your testimony". As long as you are quiet you don't triumph. You must speak it, share it, proclaim it, publish it.

Second He doesn't say "the book of your testimony", it is a single word. Just focus on a single word.

The word is the "logos". All of us have a testimony that aligns with the word of God. Speak that.

This word is spoken to each of the seven churches in Revelation 2 and 3. But it is also written of the rider of the white horse which most understand to refer to the Antichrist. You cannot be neutral, either you are with the Lord, overcoming the evil one with the word of your testimony or else you will be overcome by evil.

Matthew 18:16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.

It is not your responsibility for people to believe or to be convinced. It is simply your responsibility to be a witness. Think of a trial, you are a witness, you aren't the judge, that is the Lord Jesus, you aren't the attorney that is the Holy Spirit, you aren't the jury, that refers to those who hear your witness. No one is going to believe the gospel based on one witness. It is the fact that there are many witnesses, everywhere they turn they hear the witnesses.

Reread revelation 12:11 again, it doesn't say that you triumphed over them by the word of your testimony, it says "they" triumphed over him by the word of their testimony. It is corporate, a multitude of testimonies that will win. Do not look at your testimony as being insufficient to "win the war". It is all the testimonies together that win the war.
 

ZNP

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JB cares about the people who are suffering in this economy.

Maybe Trump doesn't have any empathy but JB does. Suppose your daughter is majoring in Sexuality studies and your son is majoring in Leisure studies. The parents are high powered lawyers and stock brokers and you usually take a two week vacation in Aspen during the winter, but with inflation and the bills your kids are racking up in college things are tight. JB understands, hence his new "bailout for the rich" package. Each kid gets $10k in debt forgiveness. But wait you say, those parents are making more than 125,000. HaHa, you fell for that? The parents are but the kids aren't and they are the ones with the college loans. Like Leona Helmsley once said, only chumps pay for college.
 

Cameron143

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Makeya a little wager here ... lord trump will be hit with things that would politically kill anyone else, and he will arise from the ashes to take the win in 24 riding a "Christian" wave.

One of his first acts will be to broker a deal that allows the Israelis to rebuild their temple. "Christians" around the world will cheer.

Then in 3 1/5 years when it's finished, he'll move in.

Dollars to drachmas, there's no other way this can play out.
I'll take that wager. It's not that I don't believe Trump won't run or win. But there is still much history to come. Plus, if I lose I won't be around to pay.
 
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"nobody has done more for Christianity. Nobody has done more for religion of all types than me"
-DJT

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"If you even come out against this amazing man, Donald Trump, [who] is obviously quite flawed, you are coming out against Jesus, against their Christian values"
- Adam Kinzinger, R-IL

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books like this one actually exist and some publishers apparently are under the impression it's a title capable of making profit from:

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hundreds if not thousands of self-proclaimed prophets across evangelical, apostolic and pentecostal denominations predict Trump empowerment & rule as the will of God. this has been going on for 7 years, openly, broadly publicly - and it's hard to imagine you are not aware of it since you're actually one of them.

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"We’ve turned the other cheek, and I understand, sort of, the biblical reference—I understand the mentality—but it’s gotten us nothing. Okay? It’s gotten us nothing while we’ve ceded ground in every major institution in our country. "
- DT, jr

Trump's own son claims to be wiser than Christ: how did he come to perceive himself this way?

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Trump ad from 2020:
"Donald Trump speaks for us boldly leading the way. He’s never let us down. And never will.”

translation: DJT will never forsake us. he is worthy of our full trust. he will be our saviour.

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need more evidence?
watch yourself attack the messenger now instead of acknowledging any of the facts i've put.
ask yourself why you default to that.
would have liked to have read the article, but need an account apparently? not interested in yet another one of those

possible to copy/paste the quote and add to the thread?


"We’ve turned the other cheek, and I understand, sort of, the biblical reference—I understand the mentality—but it’s gotten us nothing. Okay? It’s gotten us nothing while we’ve ceded ground in every major institution in our country. "
- DT, jr

Trump's own son claims to be wiser than Christ: how did he come to perceive himself this way?

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btw, it is utter nonsense to compare a human to Christ in any way shape or form and people doing so, so if that is the criteria for voting for Trump, need to get their understanding in line with scripture

on the other hand, there is no doubt that this country is being destroyed from within by the current occupants of the big white building. the so called prez is a puppet and not capable of running his own home, never mind this country

country is about to belly up. you cannot continue to manufacture monopoly money and throw it at people. this is nothing more than buying votes in the next election

this is not attacking any person on this site. this is absolutely impartial observation of what is going on. I have never seen a country that needs a 3rd option as bad as this one does.

I also do not care for Pence at all and never did and that has nothing to do with the 2020 election
 
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Polar

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People like my husband and I who voted for Trump twice have zero plans on voting for him a third time, there are younger options that are just as, if not more appealing. Trump in the end did exactly what people wanted from him, now it's time for someone else to step in...
I would not care if a blind camel were running and wins as long as the current disaster goes home and leaves the running of the country to someone who can actually do the job.

If Trump is that person? so be it. Younger people? like? they are not going to be running in the next election so it's fine to talk, but this country needs a plumber ... to send the current mess down the drain. The GOP is asleep at the wheel while the Dems run circles around them.

it's already too late. you can only prolong the inevitable
 
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The point of it all is this:

The Jews believed their Messiah would be a political figure who'd save them from Godless Romans. Because of this they did not recognize the true Messiah when He came to them.

Too many Christians these days are looking for a political figure who'll save them from Godless liberals. Because of this, they will miss their Christ when He comes for them.

History is repeating itself, to the detriment of believers.
are you sure?

empty barrels make the noise

I think actual believers who know which way is up, are directing their hopes UP from where their salvation actually comes
 
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I have not heard anyone talking about Trump "being brought back to life" except for you.

I'm tired of these questions. I think the evidence is overwhelming at this point and the burden of proof is now on the FBI to prove this is not true. The FBI doesn't raid Hillary's home because the leaders are compromised by her. They worked to get her elected, then when that failed they worked to destroy Trump, that has been proven in court. Now they want to seize evidence that they believe Trump had which would convict them.
They don't raid that home, because she knows too many hitmen and is not afraid to use them

she will have to answer one day though and no matter how much $$$ she thinks she has, it will not buy her a ticket to heaven...not that she believes in heaven though
 
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ok. just for fun:


"JTB, post: 4908408, member: 310297"]Trump railed against Obummer for golfing too much. Yet it is a documented truth that trump has golfed more.

would you please substantiate that? otherwise that is just you making a comment. personally, I don't care who golfed more...boring game anyway. I would like to see your proof tho...cause I'm like that ;)

trump railed against Killary for having classified items on her private email servers. Yet it's a documented truth that trump had classified items in his private home.

hoo boy. EVERY single President of this here United States of America has left office with classified items under the hood. I cannot even begin to believe you either do not know that or choose to ignore it under the Killary Act of 2016. Guess who gets to unclassify classifieds? did you guess the President who is stepping down? 2 points if you did.

As for the woman who wishes to be king queen, hello does the term PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER not mean anything to you? It means she was too lazy to use the provided for her servers with all the bells and whistles to establish privacy and security. actually, it means she is a sneaky individual who will stop at nothing to achieve her desire which she will never achieve because even the devil holds his ears when she gets going (right, that's an exaggeration)

the woman smashed her phones with a hammer and used a software called 'bleachbit' to wiper her pc lean. nothing to see here :devilish:

and then there is the entire Russian hoax brought to us by Ms "nothin gonna stop me now' and various other fairy tales from the left that were pinned on Trump even though a lengthy and expensive investigation was made.

trump holds to the claim the election was stolen from him. But his own sycophant's and judges have said time and again he has no case.

it was stolen though. and if the right doesn't get their duckies in a row, it will happen again with anyone who runs against the left

Yes anyone can slander another with lies. But to continue to push a lie in the face of documented truths is - unGodly.

I would laugh but it appears you are serious, so tears are probably more in keeping with your presentation of how awful Trump is,
but I'm out of tears


Jesus is not on the ballot. Yet trump and his cronies insist that He is on the ballot under trumps name.

Exaggerate much? It is foolish to waste even one vote on a party that is destroying this country from within. Short term memory loss over how good most of us had it under that awful man Trump. smh

That's the problem with deception. They convince you the lie is the truth. And to cling to it no matter what is shown to prove it a lie.

The irony. :cautious:
 
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Polar

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dude needs to sell pillows and slippers

I'm sorry he went to all that trouble and spent the millions that he did

ps. I do not own a 'my anything'