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sorry but I have issues with your signature.
You must follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the priesthood as you would the Apostles. Reverence the deacons as you would the command of God. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there, just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."- St. Ignatius of Antioch, Letter to the Smyrnaeans, 8:1-2, AD 107
I follow JESUS CHRIST my eternal High priest and Bishop and Teacher. He did not teach me to worship any man and follow them as Jesus does God. that is idolatry. I would not follow "the bishop", why should I reverence the deacons as commands from my God? why not follow the commands of my God instead? who are "the people" and why do they follow a bishop instead of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior?
Hebrews 4:14-16
New King James Version (NKJV)
Our Compassionate High Priest
14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.
Jesus is the Word of God.
You must follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the priesthood as you would the Apostles. Reverence the deacons as you would the command of God. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there, just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."- St. Ignatius of Antioch, Letter to the Smyrnaeans, 8:1-2, AD 107
I follow JESUS CHRIST my eternal High priest and Bishop and Teacher. He did not teach me to worship any man and follow them as Jesus does God. that is idolatry. I would not follow "the bishop", why should I reverence the deacons as commands from my God? why not follow the commands of my God instead? who are "the people" and why do they follow a bishop instead of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior?
Hebrews 4:14-16
New King James Version (NKJV)
Our Compassionate High Priest
14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.
Jesus is the Word of God.
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Ignatius says half past after you die is good, can you make it then? I asked him for you since you don't believe in prayer to the Saints and all
Deuteronomy 17:3
who has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, either the sun or moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded,
Acts 7:42
Then God turned and gave them up to worship the host of heaven, as it is written in the book of the Prophets: ‘ Did you offer Me slaughtered animals and sacrifices during forty years in the wilderness,O house of Israel?
Colossians 2:18
Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
Ephesians 6:12
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
What do you make of it?
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As it says in James 5:16 16 Confess your trespasses[a] to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.
Those in heaven have already been made perfect, and now they are perfectly righteous, so their prayers are the most powerful of all. Asking a Saint to pray for us is no different than asking our friend to pray for us, and a Saint is no more a mediator than our friend is. The Saints intercede for us, they do not mediate for us, the two words are distinct and that distinction is important.
Those in heaven have already been made perfect, and now they are perfectly righteous, so their prayers are the most powerful of all. Asking a Saint to pray for us is no different than asking our friend to pray for us, and a Saint is no more a mediator than our friend is. The Saints intercede for us, they do not mediate for us, the two words are distinct and that distinction is important.
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Wonder which John the Apostle: 1J2:26-28 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have recieved of Him abidith in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him. And now little children, abide in Him; that, when He shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.
That Apostle John?
That Apostle John?
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Ah, NOW I understand!
I agree with this. The Scriptures are themselves inerrant, MUST be inerrant, but without the Holy Spirit as a guide OR a pastor/teacher who are themselves guided by The Spirit, they can be taught in error. In fact, I'd say a lot of (bad) history has been made because someone ... many someones ... taught scripture in a way that twisted it towards their own ends, if I understand the term infallible correctly. Which ... I probably don't.
I agree with this. The Scriptures are themselves inerrant, MUST be inerrant, but without the Holy Spirit as a guide OR a pastor/teacher who are themselves guided by The Spirit, they can be taught in error. In fact, I'd say a lot of (bad) history has been made because someone ... many someones ... taught scripture in a way that twisted it towards their own ends, if I understand the term infallible correctly. Which ... I probably don't.
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Well, you just perfectly answered your own question
Yes, many have twisted them to their own destruction. Why? They were void of the Spirit.
Always watch out for false teachers. And watch out for false teachers who point out false teachers.
You have to deny the inspiration of the Scriptures in order to support these things:
*Jesus is not God
*The Resurrection is a Myth
*There are many gods
*Jesus is not the only way to God
And many, many more (I'm sure you can fill in the blank with many more things than I)
Grace and Love
Yes, many have twisted them to their own destruction. Why? They were void of the Spirit.
Always watch out for false teachers. And watch out for false teachers who point out false teachers.
You have to deny the inspiration of the Scriptures in order to support these things:
*Jesus is not God
*The Resurrection is a Myth
*There are many gods
*Jesus is not the only way to God
And many, many more (I'm sure you can fill in the blank with many more things than I)
Grace and Love
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The scripture in their original autographs (as written by the men who wrote them.) are infalible. Unfortunately, the copies, and translations (Ie English translation or text) are falible. because they were written by men and not inspired by God. However, even the inconsistencies and mistranslations are not enough to cause one to misinterpret the infallible text. As one who reads it correctly can see the erros and overcome them.
The scripture is inerrant. As Paul tells timothy. Scripture is profitable (fully able to do these things) for doctrine, (learning Gods truth) reproof (censoring or rebuking a false idea or premise), correction (correcting our own misconceptions and mistranslation and our own false thinking, including sin) and instruction in righteousness (teach us how God wants us to live in all areas) that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. (that anything a man needs to know to be equipped to do the work of God is contained in scripture. and everything a man needs to know to be "complete" in God is fully and completely contained in scripture (thus we do not need anything outside of scripture. Scripture is able to do it all)
Now this does not mean man will infallibly interpret scripture. Men look at scripture with preconceived notions or ideas of what it says or should say and do not become learned. will easily misinterpret scripture. But this does not in any means say that someone can not look at scripture with an open heart and have it do everything Paul tell sis it can and WILL do.. (and think, scripture was not even complete when Paul made this comment to timothy. Yet he tells timothy he had enough scripture as a child to be saved from eternal wrath and spend eternity in heaven.
The scripture is inerrant. As Paul tells timothy. Scripture is profitable (fully able to do these things) for doctrine, (learning Gods truth) reproof (censoring or rebuking a false idea or premise), correction (correcting our own misconceptions and mistranslation and our own false thinking, including sin) and instruction in righteousness (teach us how God wants us to live in all areas) that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. (that anything a man needs to know to be equipped to do the work of God is contained in scripture. and everything a man needs to know to be "complete" in God is fully and completely contained in scripture (thus we do not need anything outside of scripture. Scripture is able to do it all)
Now this does not mean man will infallibly interpret scripture. Men look at scripture with preconceived notions or ideas of what it says or should say and do not become learned. will easily misinterpret scripture. But this does not in any means say that someone can not look at scripture with an open heart and have it do everything Paul tell sis it can and WILL do.. (and think, scripture was not even complete when Paul made this comment to timothy. Yet he tells timothy he had enough scripture as a child to be saved from eternal wrath and spend eternity in heaven.
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I think because the Scripture was not yet complete at the time of the writings and because many New Testament writers were not aware of the guidance of the Holy Spirit while they were writing, St. Paul may have been referring to the Old Testament.
Also, it is important to note that the Scriptures WERE able to be misinterpreted in the time of Jesus the most famous of which is the temping of the Lord by Satan (matthew 4:5-6).
Also, it is important to note that the Scriptures WERE able to be misinterpreted in the time of Jesus the most famous of which is the temping of the Lord by Satan (matthew 4:5-6).