Trump 24

[JTB]

Thou shalt not kill (LXX; οὐ φονεύσεις), You shall not murder (Hebrew לֹאתִּרְצָח lo tirṣaḥ) or You shall not kill (KJV), is a moral imperative included as one of the Ten Commandments in the Torah,[1] specifically Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17

They were chosen to show us the way, to show
us how to treat the stranger,
how to be compassionate
and loving to your neighbor
and by doing so
peace would envelop the world
by their example​

The one gift above all other gifts is the gift of choice. God gave them a choice and then waited to see if his chosen ones would follow Him in His footsteps as He had commanded. Sadly, they have not changed; sad, sad indeed.

The Israelis have one more chance to get God’s forgiveness

Repent
Ask The Lord for forgiveness
Honor Thy Father & Thy Mother
Love the stranger as you would love Thyself
And the Lord will forgive you​

Israeli’s response ---
https://tinyurl.com/mrxpph6k

So these scriptural warnings of Jesus and Paul apply only to Israel, and not to us?

 

[tobewholeagain]

Are you not demonstrating that Jesus' words are still valid right there?

It is not a matter of me demonstrating anything. Jesus’s words speak for themselves

 

[tobewholeagain]

So these scriptural warnings of Jesus and Paul apply only to Israel, and not to us?

I was not speaking of warnings of Jesus and/or Paul.
I posted warnings made by God to His chosen.

 

[JTB]

I was not speaking of warnings of Jesus and/or Paul.
I posted warnings made by God to His chosen.

So then you didn't answer the original question

It is not a matter of me demonstrating anything. Jesus’s words speak for themselves

Without application in our lives, Jesus' words mean nothing. That's the whole point of the question. How do those specific words presented in the op apply to us?

 

[Moses_Young]

Makeya a little wager here ... lord trump will be hit with things that would politically kill anyone else, and he will arise from the ashes to take the win in 24 riding a "Christian" wave.

One of his first acts will be to broker a deal that allows the Israelis to rebuild their temple. "Christians" around the world will cheer.

Then in 3 1/5 years when it's finished, he'll move in.

Dollars to drachmas, there's no other way this can play out.

I hope you are wrong, but more and more, I am thinking you may be right. Things have already gone too smoothly for Trump. Behind the scenes, but stronger-and-stronger, is the religious theme that he's some type of saviour for mankind. Then you've got the military intelligence entity Q, who behaves in some ways like a false prophet. I know to this point he (Q) hasn't claimed to be a prophet, but he's sure invoked some religious themes, whilst being careful to avoid any mention of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords - Jesus Christ.

I know now that Christians reject this idea of Trump (or the military, or ourselves) as Saviour, but when this tide of opinion becomes a flood, I wonder whether the voices of Christians opposing it will be drowned out by those who see Trump as some sort of righteous deliverer.

I'm all for destroying the Deep State and ending the corruption and pedophile rings, but there is more to this movie than is being revealed, and the undertones are spiritually dark.

 

[ZNP]

I understand why people voted for Biden, it makes sense. They were locked in their house, they were bored, we hadn't had a real world war with the potential for a nuclear holocaust in a while, and they had all this extra money they were making and didn't know what to do with it. Besides its kind of funny to have a freak show for an administration and any time Biden speaks it is always good for a laugh.

 

[kaylagrl]

do you think it is God's will that Christians should support & empower Trump, yes or no?

Yes, I think Christians should vote for Trump!! Look at the mess the Dems have us in. Why should they vote for Trump. What do you mean "empower"? You empower anyone you vote for.

do you believe voting for Trump is doing the will of Christ, yes or no?

Was Reagan doing God's will, Bush one or two?! Look at the country under Biden vs Trump. Common sense ought to tell you to vote for as Christian. You vote for the platform that is closest to you Bible beliefs. Hands down you should be able to vote for Trump vs these progressive communists.It's scary that people in this country are too blind to see the difference. smh

 

[kaylagrl]

there is abundant evidence. you live in exactly that kind of media blitz full of that evidence.
we are not called to turn off our brains.

why does a publisher, whose aim is to make a lot of money by appealing to a large market share, decide a book that literally claims the Bible is about Donald Trump the Christ is worth printing?

I suppose you don't recall that they called Obama the Messiah. Why, because he was popular and drew lots of people the same way Trump does. Because some idiot writes a book has no bearing on Trump. People want to make money, if they can capitalize on a popular person, they'll do it. In other news, water is wet. smh

 

[kaylagrl]

do you believe publicly supporting Donald Trump and raising your voice against any and all of his enemies specifically all over Christian forums is the will of Christ Jesus for your life over the last several years, yes or no?
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Against his enemies?! No, against the corrupt Dems.!!! Unbelievable!!! Biden should have been impeached 10x already. You better believe I'm gonna stand against them, on this forum and anywhere else I have a voice. What they are doing to this country is disgusting, as a Christian, I don't see how you can support it. smh

 

[kaylagrl]

I understand why people voted for Biden, it makes sense. They were locked in their house, they were bored, we hadn't had a real world war with the potential for a nuclear holocaust in a while, and they had all this extra money they were making and didn't know what to do with it. Besides its kind of funny to have a freak show for an administration and any time Biden speaks it is always good for a laugh.

Biden is an utter moron, dementia is making it worse. I would pity him in the sense that no one seemed to love him enough to tell him he wasn't up to the job. Biden could hardly get 100 people to show up in his home town. His own VP has zero respect for him. Like I said, he should have been impeached 10x by now. smh

 

[ZNP]

Biden is an utter moron, dementia is making it worse. I would pity him in the sense that no one seemed to love him enough to tell him he wasn't up to the job. Biden could hardly get 100 people to show up in his home town. His own VP has zero respect for him. Like I said, he should have been impeached 10x by now. smh

That is the way I feel until I see that all things are under God's sovereignty. Once I see that I am much happier. This is like taking a dog and rubbing his nose in a poop he did in the house. This is how you get people to repent. If inflation and world war will lead people to repentance and salvation it is a good thing.

The Great Depression was a great event when viewed in terms of revival and people being saved. The same is true of WWI. In WWII the Gideon's gave every soldier a bible. Those wars were instrumental in the Gideon's being changed from a US ministry to a global ministry.

 

[kaylagrl]

Trump may be "married" but he goes to prostitutes and boasts about grabbing women by the p_ssy!

Biden is married and sexually assaulted a woman by digitally penetrating her. No other way but vulgar to explain that one. His own daughter says she was over sexualixed by her father and said she took showers with him and wonders if that's why she's having issues now. His own son calls him Pedo Pete, and he would know! He was making woman so uncomfortable with his sniffing and touching that he had to come out and promise he would stop. smh

If Trump is supposedly about America first, what did he discuss with Putin in private? There is no record of their private discussion. Even the translators' notes had to be destroyed!

So what? What did Hillary bleach and beat with a hammer? Don't even start on the corruption of Biden, son and brother. Trump was harder on Russia than Obama, Bush or Biden has been. Wouldn't be in this mess with Ukraine if Trump was in office, that's for dang sure!!

And if he is so righteous, why did he steal classified information, then refuse to give it back, forcing the FBI to have to get a warrant and forcibly retrieve it from his residence?

That's the Dem narrative. If he's guilty then Hillary is 20x more and she somehow didn't have her house raided. Hummm wonder why. Trump was president, he has rights others don't have. These things can go back and forth for years, like with Obama. This is just a trick to take focus off of Nov. elections. Lord knows they don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[kaylagrl]

That is the way I feel until I see that all things are under God's sovereignty. Once I see that I am much happier. This is like taking a dog and rubbing his nose in a poop he did in the house. This is how you get people to repent. If inflation and world war will lead people to repentance and salvation it is a good thing.

The Great Depression was a great event when viewed in terms of revival and people being saved. The same is true of WWI. In WWII the Gideon's gave every soldier a bible. Those wars were instrumental in the Gideon's being changed from a US ministry to a global ministry.

I sure don't know which way God is leading. But when it comes to voting and standing for the truth, I'm not gonna sit back and let people act like there is no difference between the parties or no reason for Christians to vote left vs right. You wanna sit home on your backside and not vote, then you lose the right to complain about anything that happens in the country after that. But if you want to talk voting left vs right and claim to Christian, now we're gonna have a come to Jesus moment. If you don't support either, fine. But if you vote as a Christian and say the left is the way to vote, ya I'm gonna call you on that, hard.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Makeya a little wager here ... lord trump will be hit with things that would politically kill anyone else, and he will arise from the ashes to take the win in 24 riding a "Christian" wave.

One of his first acts will be to broker a deal that allows the Israelis to rebuild their temple. "Christians" around the world will cheer.

Then in 3 1/5 years when it's finished, he'll move in.

Dollars to drachmas, there's no other way this can play out.

Chuckle!!!! Heard it all before, except then it was Bill Clinton (or maybe it was the "Bammer"). Same 'ol, Same 'ol. "Eschatology" is nothing but a "Religious term" for RANK SPECULATION.

 

[ZNP]

I sure don't know which way God is leading. But when it comes to voting and standing for the truth, I'm not gonna sit back and let people act like there is no difference between the parties or no reason for Christians to vote left vs right. You wanna sit home on your backside and not vote, then you lose the right to complain about anything that happens in the country after that. But if you want to talk voting left vs right and claim to Christian, now we're gonna have a come to Jesus moment. If you don't support either, fine. But if you vote as a Christian and say the left is the way to vote, ya I'm gonna call you on that, hard.

For 2,000 years the Lord has been leading us to where we are today, He told you this is where we would be and we were also told there is no salvation in any other name.

I have no issue with people who are focused on political issues like abortion, or election integrity. I agree that as a citizen I have an obligation to vote and participate. That said I also realize there is no salvation coming out of congress, no bill that will be passed that will "save us", no savior running for president. I personally agree with Mike Lindell that Trump was an answer to prayer. But that prayer was not for another savior.

 

[JTB]

Chuckle!!!! Heard it all before, except then it was Bill Clinton (or maybe it was the "Bammer"). Same 'ol, Same 'ol. "Eschatology" is nothing but a "Religious term" for RANK SPECULATION.

Jesus said in the end many will turn away from Him because they were not prepared for what's coming. That's why the Bible is full of end time prophesies. Yes this post is speculation on those prophesies, but that doesn't mean you should ignore the subject entirely.

 

[JTB]

I sure don't know which way God is leading. But when it comes to voting and standing for the truth, I'm not gonna sit back and let people act like there is no difference between the parties or no reason for Christians to vote left vs right. You wanna sit home on your backside and not vote, then you lose the right to complain about anything that happens in the country after that. But if you want to talk voting left vs right and claim to Christian, now we're gonna have a come to Jesus moment. If you don't support either, fine. But if you vote as a Christian and say the left is the way to vote, ya I'm gonna call you on that, hard.

I haven't voted left or right since Ross Perot.

I can't vote left because I will not support immorality, poly/atheism, enablement, or the abdication of responsibility (which includes abortion)

I can't vote right because I won't support mammon worship, self-idolatry, cheating workers, abandonment of the poor and sick, or lies and hypocrisy.

You can't have change by voting for more of the same old thing.

The left deceives the world. The right deceives believers. Both roads lead to tribulation.

But that's nothing we haven't discussed before.

You just let your bias deafen your understanding. Thus you don't understand. And probably never will.

Sigh.

 

[JTB]

I know now that Christians reject this idea of Trump (or the military, or ourselves) as Saviour, .

Oh do they?

 

[ZNP]

Oh do they?

Christian? Are you sure you don't mean pantheist?

This person wrote "The Five Gods of the Bible"

Here is the blurb on Bookshop.org

God in Heaven and the LORD on the Earth

This book will captivate you as soon as you begin to see the five Gods in the Bible.

The Hebrew Bible is written in allegories to differentiate God in heaven from the LORD on the earth. Moses mentions God and the four different LORDS (Yahwehs) on earth in the book of Exodus. Jesus illustrates these five different deities in depth throughout His parables, and so do the prophets Daniel and Enoch, as well as the Psalms. Jesus gave several distinctions to differentiate the Son of God from the Son of Man, and that these two Sons have their own monarchy. The ancient writers of the Hebrew scriptures gave certain continuously characteristic clues to differentiate God in heaven from the LORD on earth--for instance, that God in heaven lives in His palace among women, whereas the LORD on the earth lives in His temple among men. Literally hundreds of scriptures throughout the Bible mentions the four different LORDS on the earth, whereas God is in heaven. As soon as you start studying the Torah, the five books of Moses, and all the prophets, you will see that the entire Bible is written in a secret royal language to explain the five Deities and their kingdoms.

This book will challenge your views on and opinions about the Bible forever, and you will find that these scriptures are not actually religious texts per se, but that the Hebrew scriptures, in fact, explain in depth the five different Gods and the two main monarchies.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Jesus said in the end many will turn away from Him because they were not prepared for what's coming. That's why the Bible is full of end time prophesies. Yes this post is speculation on those prophesies, but that doesn't mean you should ignore the subject entirely.

After over 50 years of listening to "End times teachers", in various denominational venues, and having read the books and articles in years past, and listened to "Chicken Littles" for decades, my reaction to it is just to smile, say "That's interesting", and walk away.