John 3:18

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FreeGrace2 said:
I suggest more study before posting such error.
You wish.

I never said that Jesus wasn't God's Son before his resurrection.
Go read your post. Irony indeed.

Instead, I rightly said that Jesus didn't become God's "only begotten Son" until the time that he was raised from the dead, and I provided scriptures which back my assertion.
No, you didn't. I proved from John 10:36 that Jesus called Himself God's Son.

Just a lot of noise without a single verse to support your own erroneous claim that Jesus became God's "only begotten Son" at his birth.
So you've flat out rejected His own words in John 10:36. Wow.
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
I suggest more study before posting such error.
I almost forgot to tell you something...

Repent, you wicked antichristian heretic.
Oh, wow. Nice touch.

Yes, you're an antichrist in that the garbage that you're espousing flies in direct contrast to what Jesus himself said about the "day" in which he was truly "begotten".
If you count garbage as a nice touch.

Not only that, but Jesus was reiterating what God the Father said to him, so you stand in direct opposition to God the Father as well.
You mean God the Father never called Jesus His Son until the resurrection?? You are just so OFF TRACK.

Does this concern you?
I am totally concerned about the truth. Of which you've shown NOTHING.

Now, go and repent, heretic, or gird up your loins as you prepare to answer for your heresy on the day of God's judgment.
You need a mirror.

Galatians chapter 5

[19] Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
[20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
[21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
And just what do you suppose these verses support? Your totally unbiblical claims? Nope.
 

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FreeGrace2 said:
I suggest more study before posting such error.

Oh, wow. Nice touch.


If you count garbage as a nice touch.


You mean God the Father never called Jesus His Son until the resurrection?? You are just so OFF TRACK.


I am totally concerned about the truth. Of which you've shown NOTHING.


You need a mirror.


And just what do you suppose these verses support? Your totally unbiblical claims? Nope.
You're not only a wicked antichrist, but you're apparently a deluded fool as well.

I mean, anybody with at least one working eye and one working brain cell can see that you keep on deliberately removing the word "begotten" from your claims.

Show me/us where Jesus or anybody else in the Bible said that Jesus was "begotten" when he was born.

Good luck with that, heretic.
 

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John 3:16

16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

John 3:16, identifies God’s actions using the past tense. In order to be consistent with what you said, does it mean God didn’t love the world before Jesus was resurrected? Because if Jesus wasn’t God’s only begotten Son until after resurrection then God wouldn’t have loved the world to have sent His only begotten Son into the world.

Can you prove God didn’t love the world prior to the resurrection and incarnation of Jesus?
There were plenty of types, shadows/foreshadowings, and outright prophecies concerning Christ’s resurrection from the dead prior to his actual resurrection from the dead, and those who believed in the same had their faith imputed unto them for righteousness.

For example, let’s take a quick look at Abram/Abraham.

Everyone is familiar with the following:

Genesis chapter 15

[1] After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

[2] And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?

[3] And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.

[4] And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.

[5] And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.

[6] And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

When was this “he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness” part actually fulfilled?

Well, James answers that question for us.

We read:

James chapter 2

[21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

[22] Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

[23] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

According to James, Genesis 15:6 wasn’t “fulfilled” until the time came that Abraham “had offered Isaac his son upon the altar”.

Please allow me to explain…

God had told Abraham that “in Isaac shall thy seed be called” (Gen. 21:12, Rom. 9:7, Heb. 11:18) or that Christ, who is “the seed of Abraham”, would come through the lineage or descendancy of Isaac.

Shortly thereafter, God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac on the altar.

Well, how in the world could Christ come through Isaac’s lineage or descendancy if Abraham killed Isaac?

Of course, the correct answer is only if God raised Isaac from the dead in order to fulfill his promise, and this is precisely what Abraham believed would happen.

In relation to the same, we read:

Hebrews chapter 11

[17] By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

[18] Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

[19] Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

Why is Isaac referred to here as Abraham’s “only begotten son”?

I mean, Abraham certainly had other sons, didn’t he?

Yes, as a matter of fact, he did.

He not only fathered Ishmael, but he also fathered other sons after Sarah was dead:

Genesis chapter 25

[1] Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah.

[2] And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.

[3] And Jokshan begat Sheba, and Dedan. And the sons of Dedan were Asshurim, and Letushim, and Leummim.

[4] And the sons of Midian; Ephah, and Epher, and Hanoch, and Abida, and Eldaah. All these were the children of Keturah.

Seeing how Abraham had other sons besides Isaac, why is Isaac called Abraham’s “only begotten son”?

Well, the answer is in the text itself.

Again, we read:

Hebrews chapter 11

[17] By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

[18] Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

[19] Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

Isaac is called Abraham’s “only begotten son” because Abraham “accounted that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure”.

Again, this is how Abraham “believed” that the LORD would fulfill his promise of “in Isaac shall thy seed be called” after commanding Abraham to sacrifice or to kill Isaac.

Anyhow, my point is that there were many types, shadows/foreshadowings, and outright prophecies concerning Christ’s resurrection from the dead before the actual “day” came in which he was “begotten”, and those who exercised their faith in the same had it imputed unto them for righteousness…EVEN AS WE DO TODAY.

With such being the case, God loved the world before the actual “day” in which Christ was “begotten”, but his love is directly linked to that “day”.

Again, if Christ isn’t risen from the dead, then our faith in vain, and we are yet in our sins.

“And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.” (I Cor. 15:17)

As far as John 3:16 is concerned, Jesus was clearly speaking to Nicodemus about his/our need to be “born again”. No one, and I mean NO ONE, can be born again apart from Christ’s resurrection from the dead, or apart from exercising faith in “God’s only begotten Son”, or apart from exercising faith in Jesus who is “the first begotten of the dead”.

“And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” (Rev. 1:5)
 
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With such being the case, God loved the world before the actual “day” in which Christ was “begotten”, but his love is directly linked to that “day”.

Again, if Christ isn’t risen from the dead, then our faith in vain, and we are yet in our sins.

“And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.” (I Cor. 15:17)

As far as John 3:16 is concerned, Jesus was clearly speaking to Nicodemus about his/our need to be “born again”. No one, and I mean NO ONE, can be born again apart from Christ’s resurrection from the dead, or apart from exercising faith in “God’s only begotten Son”, or apart from exercising faith in Jesus who is “the first begotten of the dead”.

“And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” (Rev. 1:5)
My point is that if God didn’t love the world before Jesus was resurrected and became His only begotten Son [on that day] then He wouldn’t have sent Jesus into the world to begin with.

Consider Romans:

Romans 5:6-11
6For at just the right time, while we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.7Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. 8But God proves His love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
9Therefore, since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from wrath through Him! 10For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life! 11Not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

Notice verse 8 above. God proved His love by Christ dying for sinners. That means God loved the world before the resurrection, but in order to prove that love for the world of sinners, Christ died for the ungodly.

Now back to John 3:16,17 where God so loved the world He gave (to be crucified that is) His only begotten Son. God proved the love He had for the world by Christ’s death, not the resurrection. Jesus was identified as God’s only begotten Son prior to death.

Jesus didn’t become the only begotten Son through resurrection, but due to being God’s offspring.

Even as child, Jesus referred to God as His Father:

Luke 2:49
49“Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”

The way you’re putting it doesn’t really make sense to me because it creates the problem that God didn’t love the world unless Jesus became His only begotten Son through resurrection. The verses I provided prove God loved the world before He proved it by giving His only begotten Son to die, not by resurrection.

Abraham gave his only begotten son to die, God gave His only begotten Son to die. Thats the shadow of the things to come. Make sense now?
 

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I think a closer look into the meaning of 'the first begotten' specifically in regard to "of the dead," is warranted here which will help clarify the understanding.
 

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I think a closer look into the meaning of 'the first begotten' specifically in regard to "of the dead," is warranted here which will help clarify the understanding.
Do ye suppose this suggests that Jesus is 'born through the 'bowels' of hell'? and therefore, at least figuratively begotten by death, not that death is his natural father of course but, in that same sense?
 

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Do ye suppose this suggests that Jesus is 'born through the 'bowels' of hell'? and therefore, at least figuratively begotten by death, not that death is his natural father of course but, in that same sense?
just attempting to ascertain the differentiation of the "only" begotten and the "first" begotten. but I've been banished into the heretical bowels of the muted so this might just be me calling out from the deep... :p
 

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My point is that if God didn’t love the world before Jesus was resurrected and became His only begotten Son [on that day] then He wouldn’t have sent Jesus into the world to begin with.

Consider Romans:

Romans 5:6-11
6For at just the right time, while we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.7Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. 8But God proves His love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
9Therefore, since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from wrath through Him! 10For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life! 11Not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

Notice verse 8 above. God proved His love by Christ dying for sinners. That means God loved the world before the resurrection, but in order to prove that love for the world of sinners, Christ died for the ungodly.

Now back to John 3:16,17 where God so loved the world He gave (to be crucified that is) His only begotten Son. God proved the love He had for the world by Christ’s death, not the resurrection. Jesus was identified as God’s only begotten Son prior to death.

Jesus didn’t become the only begotten Son through resurrection, but due to being God’s offspring.

Even as child, Jesus referred to God as His Father:

Luke 2:49
49“Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”

The way you’re putting it doesn’t really make sense to me because it creates the problem that God didn’t love the world unless Jesus became His only begotten Son through resurrection. The verses I provided prove God loved the world before He proved it by giving His only begotten Son to die, not by resurrection.

Abraham gave his only begotten son to die, God gave His only begotten Son to die. Thats the shadow of the things to come. Make sense now?
Sigh...

This will be my last post on this topic and probably on this website.

If you honestly believe that "God proved the love He had for the world by Christ's death, not the resurrection", then I honestly feel sorry for you.

Again, no one, and I mean NO ONE, can be saved apart from Christ's resurrection from the dead.

How, then, is Christ's crucifixion, apart from his sub sequential resurrection from the dead, allegedly a sign of God's love if people are still dead in their sins and headed for hell?

It's absolute heretical nonsense.

Anyhow, at my end, I rightly showed you that Christ was "begotten" in Psalm 2:7 AFTER Herod, Pilate, the Jews, and the Roman soldiers had conspired to kill him or AFTER he was crucified, and NOT before, even as he himself declared while reiterating what his Father had said to him in relation to the same.

I also rightly showed you that Paul confirmed that God fulfilled his promise in Psalm 2:7 WHEN Christ was "begotten" or raised from the dead, and NOT before then.

I also rightly showed you that Jesus received a name greater than that of the angels AFTER he was "begotten" or raised from the dead, and NOT before then.

I also rightly showed you that the Levitical priesthood was changed AFTER Jesus was "begotten" or raised from the dead, and NOT before then.

I also rightly showed you that John beheld the glory as of the only begotten Son of God AFTER Jesus was "begotten" or raised from the dead, or AFTER God had restored to him the glory that he had with the Father before the world was.

I also rightly showed you that Jesus is "the first begotten OF THE DEAD".

In spite of these truths and others that I've already shared, you still claim that Jesus was "begotten" prior to his resurrection from the dead.

I'm not wasting another moment of my time sharing any more actual Biblical truths here.

I'm done.

Farewell.
 
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Do ye suppose this suggests that Jesus is 'born through the 'bowels' of hell'? and therefore, at least figuratively begotten by death, not that death is his natural father of course but, in that same sense?
I think there are different senses in which Jesus is God’s begotten Son. Death wasn’t allowed to keep Jesus since He was sinless. In a sense, death itself sinned by receiving Jesus. Death is only reserved for sinners, but God resurrected Him because death could not hold Him.

Acts 2:24
24Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

Hebrews 2:14,15
14Now since the children have flesh and blood, He too shared in their humanity, so that by His death He might destroy him who holds the power of death, that is, the devil,15and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death.

Thus death itself will be cast into the lake of fire to be destroyed because its sin:

Revelation 20:14
14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire.

This was the legal process in order to make the resurrection possible. I don’t want to call it a loophole, but it had to be done this way in order for Christ to be raised to the resurrection of eternal life. Now that Christ is our Savior, we, too, can be resurrected to eternal life because of our faith in Him.

I think that’s the sense Jesus was the first begotten of the dead.
 

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I think there are different senses in which Jesus is God’s begotten Son. Death wasn’t allowed to keep Jesus since He was sinless. In a sense, death itself sinned by receiving Jesus. Death is only reserved for sinners, but God resurrected Him because death could not hold Him.

Acts 2:24
24Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

Hebrews 2:14,15
14Now since the children have flesh and blood, He too shared in their humanity, so that by His death He might destroy him who holds the power of death, that is, the devil,15and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death.

Thus death itself will be cast into the lake of fire to be destroyed because its sin:

Revelation 20:14
14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire.

This was the legal process in order to make the resurrection possible. I don’t want to call it a loophole, but it had to be done this way in order for Christ to be raised to the resurrection of eternal life. Now that Christ is our Savior, we, too, can be resurrected to eternal life because of our faith in Him.

I think that’s the sense Jesus was the first begotten of the dead.
Since Jesus is the only begotten, it would seem (the word escapes me, not redundant? but 'unnecessarily extra') to refer to him in the same sense in the ordinal sense. So, I gather that since he is referred to the "first" here, it is suggestive that there will be second, third, and so fourth... begotten of the dead, namely those who die in Him and are resurrected to eternal life.
 
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Sigh...

This will be my last post on this topic and probably on this website.

If you honestly believe that "God proved the love He had for the world by Christ's death, not the resurrection", then I honestly feel sorry for you.

Again, no one, and I mean NO ONE, can be saved apart from Christ's resurrection from the dead.

How, then, is Christ's crucifixion, apart from his sub sequential resurrection from the dead, allegedly a sign of God's love if people are still dead in their sins and headed for hell?

It's absolute heretical nonsense.

Anyhow, at my end, I rightly showed you that Christ was "begotten" in Psalm 2:7 AFTER Herod, Pilate, the Jews, and the Roman soldiers had conspired to kill him or AFTER he was crucified, and NOT before, even as he himself declared while reiterating what his Father had said to him in relation to the same.

I also rightly showed you that Paul confirmed that God fulfilled his promise in Psalm 2:7 WHEN Christ was "begotten" or raised from the dead, and NOT before then.

I also rightly showed you that Jesus received a name greater than that of the angels AFTER he was "begotten" or raised from the dead, and NOT before then.

I also rightly showed you that the Levitical priesthood was changed AFTER Jesus was "begotten" or raised from the dead, and NOT before then.

I also rightly showed you that John beheld the glory as of the only begotten Son of God AFTER Jesus was "begotten" or raised from the dead, or AFTER God had restored to him the glory that he had with the Father before the world was.

I also rightly showed you that Jesus is "the first begotten OF THE DEAD".

In spite of these truths and others that I've already shared, you still claim that Jesus was "begotten" prior to his resurrection from the dead.

I'm not wasting another moment of my time sharing any more actual Biblical truths here.

I'm done.

Farewell.
You don’t act like a bear, you act like the Hulk. You don’t need to smash everything, you need to just be calm, patient, and understanding; even real bears have that. They know how to measure their responses and prefer to be gentle.

I agree that Jesus is the first begotten of the dead, but He was God’s only begotten Son prior to His death. I proved it with the Bible word for word. You’re free to do anything you want, man. Go in peace.
 
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Since Jesus is the only begotten, it would seem (the word escapes me, not redundant? but 'unnecessarily extra') to refer to him in the same sense in the ordinal sense. So, I gather that since he is referred to the "first" here, it is suggestive that there will be second, third, and so fourth... begotten of the dead, namely those who die in Him and are resurrected to eternal life.
Bingo, I think that’s exactly it. There are sons and daughters of the resurrection. Christ was the first begotten Son of the resurrection to eternal life. There will be more such as you, myself, and many others. I wonder who will be the number 2 resurrected? 🤔

Luke 20:36
36Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
 
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I will.

It's the rest of you that I'm greatly concerned about.

Anyhow, let's make this official:

@RoboOp or @Oncefallen, please deactivate my account.

Thank you.

P.S.

There won't be a "Live4him4" nor will I ever return here under another username.
I will miss you. Love in Christ.
 
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What did the Jews do that was not predetermined that they would do?

If they had not rebelled and given Him up to be crucified YOU could not have been saved. Salvation is of the Jews.

God will once again turn the hearts of His ancient people back to Himself in His own time. Once the full number of us Gentiles are in.

God is already turned back to the Jews but they are not yet turned back to Him.
Jn 3:16 throws your argument into the trash. Jesus is not only the savior of the Jews, but He is the Savior of the world.
 
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A couple of things...

First of all, take that Bible (mis-) translation and throw it in the garbage where it belongs.

Jesus is NOT "God's one and only Son".

In scripture, Christians are called "sons of God":

"Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not." (I John 3:1)

Similarly, in scripture, angels are called "sons of God":

"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them." (Job 1:6)

Far from being "God's one and only Son", in reality, Jesus is "the only begotten Son of God", and he was "begotten" on the day in which he was raised from the dead.

"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3:18)

Acts chapter 13

[26] Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.
[27] For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.
[28] And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.
[29] And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.
[30] But God raised him from the dead:
[31] And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
[32] And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,
[33] God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

It was when Christ was "begotten" and had ascended back to the Father in heaven that he "received by inheritance a more excellent name than they", with the "they" being angels, and when he was "made heir of all things".

Hebrews chapter 1

[1] God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
[2] Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
[3] Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
[4] Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
[5] For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

It is also when Christ was "begotten" that the priesthood changed:

Hebrews chapter 5

[1] For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:
[2] Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.
[3] And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins.
[4] And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.
[5] So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

It is our belief in the exalted name of Jesus which he received after her was "begotten" or raised from the dead that saves us.

Second of all, and to your point, no Jew or Gentile can be saved without such saving faith in the exalted name of Jesus which he received after he was "begotten" or raised from the dead.
 

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Acts 13:32-34 . . And we preach to you the good news of the promise
made to the fathers, that God has fulfilled this promise to our children in
that He raised up Jesus, as it is also written in the second Psalm, "You are
My son; today I have begotten you." And as for the fact that He raised him
up from the dead, no more to return to decay, He has spoken in this way: "I
will give you the holy and sure blessings of David."

The Greek word translated "begotten" in that passage is a bit ambiguous. It
can mean either to procreate or to regenerate; depending upon the language
and grammar of the text.

Well; seeing as how Jesus was already in existence prior to his crucifixion,
and already God's son too; then I think it safe to assume that his
resurrection wasn't an act of procreation, rather, an act of regeneration, i.e.
a restoring of his dead body to life.

Jesus is the forerunner of all who are headed in that direction, and they will
one day themselves hear God say; "You are My son; today I have begotten
you"

According to 1John 3:1-2 Jesus' followers are already God's sons, but they
are not yet His resurrected sons. That's pending. (Rom 8:23-25)
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First of all, take that Bible (mis-) translation and throw it in the garbage where it belongs. Jesus is NOT "God's one and only Son".

There is nothing wrong with the term "God's only son." The CSB, ESV, LEB, NIV, NAS20, NET, NRSV are not wrong because the noun "only" or begotten mean the same thing. μονογενής monogenēs adj Only, unique, only-begotten.
Word Studies:
Classical Greek

This adjective is a compound of mono- (“only”) and genēs (cf. genos [1079], “race,” from ginomai [1090], “to be born”); thus, monogenēs means “only-begotten,” the “only one of its kind.” It is known from around the Seventh Century B.C. The mono- prefix stresses the “only” aspect, i.e., it means “without brothers and sisters” (Büchsel, “monogenēs,” Kittel, 4:738). It would be used to describe a “unique” form, place, or even manner of behavior (Liddell-Scott).

μονογενής monogenḗs; gen. monogenoús, masc.–fem., neut. monogenón, from mónos (3441), only, and génos (1085), stock. Unique, one of a kind, one and only. The only one of the family (Luke 7:12 referring to the only son of his mother; 8:42, the daughter of Jairus; Luke 9:38, the demoniac boy).

John alone uses monogenḗs to describe the relation of Jesus to God the Father, presenting Him as the unique one, the only one (mónos) of a class or kind (génos), in the discussion of the relationship of the Son to the Father (John 1:14, 18; 3:16, 18; 1 John 4:9). Génos, from which genḗs in monogenḗs is derived, means race, stock, family, class or kind, and génō comes from gínomai (1096), become, as in John 1:14, “and the Word became [egéneto] flesh.” This is in distinction from gennáō (1080), to beget, engender or create.

The noun from gennáō is génnēma (1081), the result of birth. So then, the word means one of a kind or unique.
He is never called téknon Theoú (téknon [5043], child; Theoú [2316], of God) as the believers are (John 1:12; 11:52; 1 John 3:1, 2, 10; 5:2). In John 5:18, Jesus called God His very own (ídion [2398]) Father. To Jesus, God was not a Father as He is to us. See John 20:17. He never spoke of God as the common Father of Him and believers. The term monogenḗs also occurs in Heb. 11:17.

Zodhiates, S. (2000). In The complete word study dictionary: New Testament (electronic ed.). AMG Publishers.


Heb. 11:17 speaks of Abraham having an only begotten son (NAS95), but other translations say "one and only son." Both are correct.