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You bring up a Good Question here : ----you need to make sure the ones your assembling with are actually True Christians and you need to know the Scripture well enough to know when what is spoken is the actual Scripture from God's Word ----and not being twisted or watered down to suit people's agenda -----

You need to assemble with like mined true Christians -----the Minister needs to have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit which most Ministers do not have -----there is no protocol for Ministers to be indwelled with the Holy Spirit to be a Minister of a Church -----and that is very sad ---Anyone can become a Minister ---Minister Gretta Vosper is a great example of that -----calls herself a Christian but is of the devil ----a professed Atheist preaching God's word ---crazy

She is still a Minister Preaching in the United Church of Canada who allows a professed atheists to preach in their Church ---Now that is Scary ------she fought to stay and preach in the church and won her case -----shows you Satan is well and active in this world --- she was never a True Christian when ordained -----

You need to be careful who you assemble with and who you listen to ------as Satan is alive in many Churches today ----
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Gretta Vosper is an “atheist minister” in the United Church of Canada.



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Thnx, very good info. I am new to all this and dismissed religion till about 2017 so I am having to cram. Go into overload at times. Even so, some things got thru to me about the religious community and your post jogs my memory of a similar occurrence in the U.S., possibly. It may be that some preacher on the internet which I listened to may have been railing against a similarly named 'church'. It seems even the word 'church' is compromised due to Satanic influence. I may post a thread about the AoG group I may attend locally.
 

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Thnx for the info. This is all new to me so I am going a little slow and have realized that there is a lot of deception with church groups. I grew up Catholic & rule them out so far.
Weeeell. Do take your time :)

Think about the foundation. Opinion or God's Word?
 
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That looks great. Go for it and God will guide you along the way.
Hey Eli1, thnx for all the help. I see you are fairly new to this chat too. But that's beside the point. I wanted to ask another favor if you know. I really appreciate you looking and giving opinion on Maranatha Chapel but do you know how to do thread with vote as I would like more than one opinion on Maranatha.
 

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Hey Eli1, thnx for all the help. I see you are fairly new to this chat too. But that's beside the point. I wanted to ask another favor if you know. I really appreciate you looking and giving opinion on Maranatha Chapel but do you know how to do thread with vote as I would like more than one opinion on Maranatha.
To create a poll, create a new topic and then you will see an option which says “post a poll”. Click on that and you will see more options about the poll and how you want to create it.
‘Then when all is done, click Post Thread and it will show the poll on the top.
 

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Hey Eli1, thnx for all the help. I see you are fairly new to this chat too. But that's beside the point. I wanted to ask another favor if you know. I really appreciate you looking and giving opinion on Maranatha Chapel but do you know how to do thread with vote as I would like more than one opinion on Maranatha.
Getting the opinion of those you have learned to trust is a good idea. Going with random and often uninformed opinions is not. Ultimately you need to be convinced in your own heart and mind.
Proverbs 3:5-6 are invaluable counsel when it comes to making decisions.
It might have been Hudson Taylor who wrote:

Enough that God my Father knows
Nothing this faith can dim.
He gives the very best to those
Who leave the choice with Him.
 
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Getting the opinion of those you have learned to trust is a good idea. Going with random and often uninformed opinions is not. Ultimately you need to be convinced in your own heart and mind.
Proverbs 3:5-6 are invaluable counsel when it comes to making decisions.
It might have been Hudson Taylor who wrote:

Enough that God my Father knows
Nothing this faith can dim.
He gives the very best to those
Who leave the choice with Him.
Thnx good info....I agree 100% with Pr. 3:5-6 and see no problem with polling. It may not yield an answer but if done correctly it may yield an answer. Sounds like a coin toss would be just as useful. And in a sense, it seems that some scripture supports a coin toss decision as valid. Maybe depending on significance of matter at hand. I have no personal contacts to consult on this matter but am finding some reliable individuals on this site and if they show up in a poll that may put me on the right track. And thus far I have been taken in by a few tv and internet preachers and my faith in the Bible as Gods' Word is stronger. So everything's coming up roses.
 

oyster67

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I have not fellowshipped or assembled with any group since about 1977. Unless Alcoholics Anonymous counts as a "Christian" group. So now that I have sobered up since 4 Aug. 1989 and no longer attend AA meetings since about 2018 and find myself finally accepting Jesus as Savior and reading that we should assemble and fellowship and finding myself in a bit of a quandary as regards purveyors of Bible Truth and puzzle over which group is more likely to teach Bible Truth with least bias I ask who gonna call? Ghost Busters???!!!
You will likely find flaws in any Church. Go there to minister as well as be ministered to. If you find problems, perhaps God can use you to help them get things straightened out. I joined a conservative Mennonite Church many years ago. The have many extraneous bolt-ons, but their core doctrine is good and strong.

Ghost Busters may have a Church directory... but I'm not sure. :unsure:
 

oyster67

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And thus far I have been taken in by a few tv and internet preachers and my faith in the Bible as Gods' Word is stronger. So everything's coming up roses.
Don't rely on just one source. Look around and see what's going down. They will often expose each other. (Not always a bad thing in these dark times.) Most important of all is to stay close to Jesus and His Word. He wants to reveal Himself to us in a real and personal way.

Revelation 3:20
“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
 
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You will likely find flaws in any Church. Go there to minister as well as be ministered to. If you find problems, perhaps God can use you to help them get things straightened out. I joined a conservative Mennonite Church many years ago. The have many extraneous bolt-ons, but their core doctrine is good and strong.

Ghost Busters may have a Church directory... but I'm not sure. :unsure:
Thnx oyster67....I have been communicating by phone with a Mennonite minister in Lombard, IL., but so far AoG affiliate is looking good and I am waiting to do a poll on this chat but need #1....wait for new pastor as present pastor retires 16th this month and #2 devise poll. Thnx much for your input.
 

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I have not fellowshipped or assembled with any group since about 1977. Unless Alcoholics Anonymous counts as a "Christian" group. So now that I have sobered up since 4 Aug. 1989 and no longer attend AA meetings since about 2018 and find myself finally accepting Jesus as Savior and reading that we should assemble and fellowship and finding myself in a bit of a quandary as regards purveyors of Bible Truth and puzzle over which group is more likely to teach Bible Truth with least bias I ask who gonna call? Ghost Busters???!!!
unless you yourself are infallible you should accept any or all who love the Lord and His cross ... The OT prophets never abandoned Israel nor did Jesus abandon His disciples.
 
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unless you yourself are infallible you should accept any or all who love the Lord and His cross ... The OT prophets never abandoned Israel nor did Jesus abandon His disciples.
I just don't want to get involved with any cult type. JWs' come across nice but I understand they are cult.
 
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unless you yourself are infallible you should accept any or all who love the Lord and His cross ... The OT prophets never abandoned Israel nor did Jesus abandon His disciples.
Another group I stay away from are RCs
 
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Another group I stay away from are RCs
And another group I now avoid is referenced here....
Danny Masterson Goes on Trial for Rape as Scientology Looms in the Background
 

Magenta

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Getting the opinion of those you have learned to trust is a good idea. Going with random and often uninformed opinions is not. Ultimately you need to be convinced in your own heart and mind.
Proverbs 3:5-6 are invaluable counsel when it comes to making decisions.
It might have been Hudson Taylor who wrote:

Enough that God my Father knows
Nothing this faith can dim.
He gives the very best to those
Who leave the choice with Him.

Proverbs3-5-6
:)
 

Eli1

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Sometimes as someone else mentioned, you may go to these other groups to share your Good News with that ONE follower who is not sure of the environment he’s in.

This is why I go to different churches and even different religions. I know my God and I want to share Him with others.

But since you are new at this your church that you linked earlier, looks pretty good to me. Then God will guide you on what to do next.
 

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They are getting a new Pastor soon and I plan to wait till they select the new pastor.
Should one assemble in a local church? Is there an obligation to do so according to Scripture? Yes! and Yes!

The problem, in these days, is finding an assembly that is Doctrinally sound. No assembly is perfect because we are not perfect. However, if you, yourself are not Doctrinally anchored in the Scriptures, you can be blown about by the various Doctrines of men.

A true assembly, of Jesus Christ, is pastored by a man called of God to that office. Not someone who thought this might be a good career move. That under-shepherd, cares deeply for the Scriptures and seeks always to honor God with his teachings. He loves God's children and watches over the flock given to him by God. He believes that God is Sovereign over all. That salvation is all of God and only God gets the glory.

In these chat rooms, you will encounter many who will diminish the role of Christ's Assembly. They themselves abandoning the true worship in the assembly with like minded believers. I, myself, have found it difficult to find a replacement assembly, since the Lord took my Pastor home and the candlestick was removed. God used him in a mighty way and he published many books to aid others. These books were always "free" and he never charged anyone a dime for them or anything else. He believed that God had made it possible and refused to profit from it. A rare and blessed individual.

For what it is worth, I will give my opinion, for the type of leader/pastor one should look for. Someone like John MacArthur, who has shown himself sound in Doctrine for over fifty years. Unfortunately, he is in California and I in Arizona. You can see and listen to him on YouTube. His assembly's outreach program is called "Grace to You".

For me personally, I may have found an assembly - Good Lord willing. I am now inspecting their teachings, in hopes that they will not violate one of the great Doctrines of Scripture.

May God guide you to where He would have you to go.
 

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I am vulnerable and with the health issues I do not go to assemble with believers as I was doing, until just over two and a half years ago. I watch services online now, it has been services at the church where I had been going, but I have been using the opportunity to watch some at some other congregations, one specifically more recently. Yet communication with other believers is important, which I find more in other ways online, as often done with media, since I remain pretty isolated at home now.
 

oyster67

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I think the same advice applies whether we fellowship online or off:

Go to Jesus first. Let His Spirit be your guide and protector. Get alone with Him and study His Word in a still and quiet place.
 
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I am vulnerable and with the health issues I do not go to assemble with believers as I was doing, until just over two and a half years ago. I watch services online now, it has been services at the church where I had been going, but I have been using the opportunity to watch some at some other congregations, one specifically more recently. Yet communication with other believers is important, which I find more in other ways online, as often done with media, since I remain pretty isolated at home now.
I am not much of a techy and still use flip phone but curious as to using (SM) social media as your intent indicates with Twitter which is also in a transitional phase. Notice that SM is also designation for more pejorative condition. Another point of interest regarding SM it is now approximately 10 yrs since Arab Spring which was aided by use of SM. Interesting to me that a cousin married a man from Tunisia where Arab Spring started. Most unusual that I interacted with the couple for only a short time and now look back upon that incident with a degree of amazement. Will wonders never cease.