"Get vaccinated for others" was always a LIE

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Nehemiah6

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Everything about Wuhan virus was a lie. Even the name "COVID19" was a lie since coronavirus was been cooked up long before 2019 and China did not want the world to know from where this bioweapon was developed and sent out. But absolutely everything about the bogus vaccines were also lies. In the meantime billions (trillions?) of dollars went to the COVID conspirators. So where are the arrests, prosecutions, and incarcerations for medical fraud?

Pfizer Exec Admits Under Oath: 'We Never Tested COVID Vaccine Against Transmission'

A senior Pfizer executive has admitted under oath that the company never tested their Covid “vaccine” to see if it prevented transmission...

As Jack Phillips reports via The Epoch Times, member of the European Parliament, Rob Roos, asked during a session:

“Was the Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market? Did we know about stopping immunization before it entered the market?” [Note: he should have said "stopping transmission"]
Pfizer’s Janine Small, president of international developed markets, said in response:
“No … You know, we had to … really move at the speed of science to know what is taking place in the market.” [Note: there is no such thing as "the speed of science"]
Roos, of the Netherlands, argued in a Twitter video Monday that following Small’s comments to him, millions of people around the world were duped by pharmaceutical companies and governments.
“Millions of people worldwide felt forced to get vaccinated because of the myth that ‘you do it for others,'” Roos said.​
“Now, this turned out to be a cheap lie” and “should be exposed,” he added.​
“If you don’t get vaccinated, you’re anti-social. This is what the Dutch Prime Minister and Health Minister told us,” Roos said.

“You don’t get vaccinated just for yourself, but also for others—you do it for all of society. That’s what they said.”
But that argument no longer holds, Roos explained.
“Today, this turns out to be complete nonsense. In a COVID hearing in the European Parliament, one of the Pfizer directors just admitted to me—at the time of introduction, the vaccine had never been tested on stopping the transmission of the virus.”

The Epoch Times has contacted Pfizer for comment.

What Was Said
The Food and Drug Administration wrote in late 2020 that there was no data available to determine whether the vaccine would prevent transmission and for how long it would protect against transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19.

“At this time, data are not available to make a determination about how long the vaccine will provide protection, nor is there evidence that the vaccine prevents transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from person to person,” the agency specifically noted.​
Meanwhile, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, around the same time, said his firm was “not certain” if those who receive its mRNA vaccine will be able to transmit COVID-19 to other people.
”I think this is something that needs to be examined. We are not certain about that right now,” Bourla told NBC News in December 2020 in response to a question about transmissibility.​
Former White House medical adviser Dr. Deborah Birx in June revealed that there was evidence in December 2020 that individuals who received COVID-19 vaccines, including Pfizer’s, could still transmit the virus.
“We knew early on in January of 2021, in late December of 2020, that reinfection was occurring after natural infection,” Birx, the White House COVID-19 response coordinator during the Trump administration, told members of Congress this year.​
‘Not Going to Get COVID’
A number of officials in the United States and around the world had claimed COVID-19 vaccines could prevent transmission. Among them, President Joe Biden in July 2021 remarked that “you’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”


President Joe Biden speaks, flanked by White House Chief Medical Adviser on COVID-19 Dr. Anthony Fauci, during a visit to the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., on Feb. 11, 2021. (Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images)
Chief Biden administration medical adviser Anthony Fauci in May 2021 said in a CBS interview that vaccinated people are “dead ends” for COVID-19, suggesting they cannot transmit the virus.
“When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said.​
Two months later, in late July of that year, Fauci said that vaccinated people are capable of transmitting the virus.

In the coming months, Fauci, Biden, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, and others pivoted to say the vaccine prevents severe disease, hospitalization, and death from COVID-19.

At least one Twitter-er accepts responsibility... and hopefully learned from his un-erring 'trust'...
 

Dude653

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I took it because I'm not trying to die.
Also I'm a caregiver for my elderly mother.
If I got covid, I would probably survive it but if I brought it home to her, she probably wouldn't
 

ZNP

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Everything about Wuhan virus was a lie. Even the name "COVID19" was a lie since coronavirus was been cooked up long before 2019 and China did not want the world to know from where this bioweapon was developed and sent out. But absolutely everything about the bogus vaccines were also lies. In the meantime billions (trillions?) of dollars went to the COVID conspirators. So where are the arrests, prosecutions, and incarcerations for medical fraud?

Pfizer Exec Admits Under Oath: 'We Never Tested COVID Vaccine Against Transmission'

A senior Pfizer executive has admitted under oath that the company never tested their Covid “vaccine” to see if it prevented transmission...

As Jack Phillips reports via The Epoch Times, member of the European Parliament, Rob Roos, asked during a session:

“Was the Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market? Did we know about stopping immunization before it entered the market?” [Note: he should have said "stopping transmission"]
Pfizer’s Janine Small, president of international developed markets, said in response:
“No … You know, we had to … really move at the speed of science to know what is taking place in the market.” [Note: there is no such thing as "the speed of science"]
Roos, of the Netherlands, argued in a Twitter video Monday that following Small’s comments to him, millions of people around the world were duped by pharmaceutical companies and governments.
“Millions of people worldwide felt forced to get vaccinated because of the myth that ‘you do it for others,'” Roos said.​
“Now, this turned out to be a cheap lie” and “should be exposed,” he added.​
“If you don’t get vaccinated, you’re anti-social. This is what the Dutch Prime Minister and Health Minister told us,” Roos said.

“You don’t get vaccinated just for yourself, but also for others—you do it for all of society. That’s what they said.”
But that argument no longer holds, Roos explained.
“Today, this turns out to be complete nonsense. In a COVID hearing in the European Parliament, one of the Pfizer directors just admitted to me—at the time of introduction, the vaccine had never been tested on stopping the transmission of the virus.”

The Epoch Times has contacted Pfizer for comment.

What Was Said
The Food and Drug Administration wrote in late 2020 that there was no data available to determine whether the vaccine would prevent transmission and for how long it would protect against transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19.

“At this time, data are not available to make a determination about how long the vaccine will provide protection, nor is there evidence that the vaccine prevents transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from person to person,” the agency specifically noted.​
Meanwhile, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, around the same time, said his firm was “not certain” if those who receive its mRNA vaccine will be able to transmit COVID-19 to other people.
”I think this is something that needs to be examined. We are not certain about that right now,” Bourla told NBC News in December 2020 in response to a question about transmissibility.​
Former White House medical adviser Dr. Deborah Birx in June revealed that there was evidence in December 2020 that individuals who received COVID-19 vaccines, including Pfizer’s, could still transmit the virus.
“We knew early on in January of 2021, in late December of 2020, that reinfection was occurring after natural infection,” Birx, the White House COVID-19 response coordinator during the Trump administration, told members of Congress this year.​
‘Not Going to Get COVID’
A number of officials in the United States and around the world had claimed COVID-19 vaccines could prevent transmission. Among them, President Joe Biden in July 2021 remarked that “you’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”


President Joe Biden speaks, flanked by White House Chief Medical Adviser on COVID-19 Dr. Anthony Fauci, during a visit to the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., on Feb. 11, 2021. (Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images)
Chief Biden administration medical adviser Anthony Fauci in May 2021 said in a CBS interview that vaccinated people are “dead ends” for COVID-19, suggesting they cannot transmit the virus.
“When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said.​
Two months later, in late July of that year, Fauci said that vaccinated people are capable of transmitting the virus.

In the coming months, Fauci, Biden, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, and others pivoted to say the vaccine prevents severe disease, hospitalization, and death from COVID-19.

At least one Twitter-er accepts responsibility... and hopefully learned from his un-erring 'trust'...

24 Speak unto the congregation, saying, Get you up from about the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.

25 And Moses rose up and went unto Dathan and Abiram; and the elders of Israel followed him.

26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of their's, lest ye be consumed in all their sins.

27 So they gat up from the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, on every side: and Dathan and Abiram came out, and stood in the door of their tents, and their wives, and their sons, and their little children.

28 And Moses said, Hereby ye shall know that the Lord hath sent me to do all these works; for I have not done them of mine own mind.

29 If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the visitation of all men; then the Lord hath not sent me.

30 But if the Lord make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the Lord.

31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them:

32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.

33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
 

Dude653

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Why would somebody create a bio weapon that only kills 1% of its victims?
I think this came from unsanitary meat markets and the fact that they eat practically anything that's not human. They lied about it until it was too late
 

ZNP

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Why would somebody create a bio weapon that only kills 1% of its victims?
I think this came from unsanitary meat markets and the fact that they eat practically anything that's not human. They lied about it until it was too late
There is no evidence that points to the meat market.

Understanding the motive is always difficult. If you had a vaccine that killed 50% of the people everyone would figure it out before they had vaccinated 100 million people, that is about 1% of the people.

However, I don't think the intention is to kill people although it does kill about 1%. I think the intention is miscarriages (a lot of those), make it so you can't have kids (for both men and women, that is also a big effect) but most of all to give you AIDS (do not confuse this with HIV, by AIDS what is meant is to weaken the immune system).

The evidence is that the result of the vaccine is to weaken your immune system to other diseases and with each shot you get it gets weaker. Of course at this point this is a theory, but if true you will see many, many more viruses making a comeback. I heard today that Polio is making a comeback.
 
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Why would somebody create a bio weapon that only kills 1% of its victims?
I think this came from unsanitary meat markets and the fact that they eat practically anything that's not human. They lied about it until it was too late
It's the corruption of the blood that is the goal.
 

Nehemiah6

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Why would somebody create a bio weapon that only kills 1% of its victims?
They were hoping for a 100% kill rate with Wuhan virus. And everyone has agreed that contrary to your assertion, the virus came out of the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China. So when that did not happen the bogus vaccines are now producing a kill rate of 85-90%. Same difference. See Health Impact News.

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Gojira

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They were hoping for a 100% kill rate with Wuhan virus. And everyone has agreed that contrary to your assertion, the virus came out of the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China. So when that did not happen the bogus vaccines are now producing a kill rate of 85-90%. Same difference. See Health Impact News.

A Brain-Damaged Nation: Neurological Diseases Explode in 2021 After COVID-19 Vaccines – 100,000%+ Increase in Strokes

“Long COVID” is the Term Now Used to Cover Up COVID Vaccine Injuries as Health Insurance Companies Face Financial Collapse

Attack on America’s Children Continues as FDA Authorizes Deadly New COVID Boosters for Children as Young as 5 Years Old

4,500 Dead Babies in VAERS From Pregnant Women Injected with COVID Shots, but Florida Only Pulls COVID Vaccine Recommendation for Young Men

Japanese Researchers Publish Cases of Strange Blood Clots Following Pfizer COVID Vaccines

Contaminated Blood: Italian Researchers Examine Blood of Over 1000 People After Pfizer or Moderna mRNA Vaccines and Find 94% Contaminated

Security Cameras Reveal COVID-19 Vaccinated People Suffering Strange Hallucinations Before Collapsing
This was about power. It was about generating a crisis -- or exploiting an existing one -- to see how far the American people would submit to governmental dictates. It was a classically fascist tactic.

No, I'm not saying that if you got the shot to protect your sick grandmother that you did something wrong. But, in general, this was about power. Global warming is the perfect existential crisis and, like covid, it is being pushed to alarmism to justify emergency powers. The problem with global warming is that, unlike covid, it's the crisis that never has to end. Therefore, neither do "emergency" powers.

Fascists and communists and progressives (same flower, different shades) need crises to push fear, which brings obedience to the State. From that, they can permanently collectivize and militarize the population against that perpetual crisis.
 

Angela53510

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I figured this out when I got a very bad case of COVID in January, after 3 vaxes. I was very pro-vax in the beginning. But when I caught it, and I had to go to the hospital, I was upset that not only did I get COVID, but also pneumonia and a severe case. Without the monoclonal antibodies they gave me in the hospital, I would be dead. My husband had 2 vaxes, and did get a mild case, but he almost never gets sick for more than 3 days.

I was very angry at the lies the gov't told. I used my vax pass, even though I didn't believe it did anything. It sort of sounds like a betrayal to the anti-vax cause, but in fact, I felt like I was sticking it to people who did trust in the vax, when they should not have.

I do not believe I was vax damaged, but so many people were. I hated the way mandates were forced down our throats, especially in Canada. But then, I never did believe anything Trudeau said or did.

Thanks for publishing this, Nehemiah! The truth is finally known. I just wish we could use this information to force Trudeau to resign and go to jail. Oh well, I can hope and pray!
 
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I took it because I'm not trying to die.
Also I'm a caregiver for my elderly mother.
If I got covid, I would probably survive it but if I brought it home to her, she probably wouldn't
But the purpose of this thread was to show that even Pfizer now admits it doesn't prevent transmission, so I don't think the second part of your reasoning holds, right?
 
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Everything about Wuhan virus was a lie. Even the name "COVID19" was a lie since coronavirus was been cooked up long before 2019 and China did not want the world to know from where this bioweapon was developed and sent out. But absolutely everything about the bogus vaccines were also lies. In the meantime billions (trillions?) of dollars went to the COVID conspirators. So where are the arrests, prosecutions, and incarcerations for medical fraud?

Pfizer Exec Admits Under Oath: 'We Never Tested COVID Vaccine Against Transmission'

A senior Pfizer executive has admitted under oath that the company never tested their Covid “vaccine” to see if it prevented transmission...

As Jack Phillips reports via The Epoch Times, member of the European Parliament, Rob Roos, asked during a session:

“Was the Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market? Did we know about stopping immunization before it entered the market?” [Note: he should have said "stopping transmission"]
Pfizer’s Janine Small, president of international developed markets, said in response:
“No … You know, we had to … really move at the speed of science to know what is taking place in the market.” [Note: there is no such thing as "the speed of science"]
Roos, of the Netherlands, argued in a Twitter video Monday that following Small’s comments to him, millions of people around the world were duped by pharmaceutical companies and governments.
“Millions of people worldwide felt forced to get vaccinated because of the myth that ‘you do it for others,'” Roos said.​
“Now, this turned out to be a cheap lie” and “should be exposed,” he added.​
“If you don’t get vaccinated, you’re anti-social. This is what the Dutch Prime Minister and Health Minister told us,” Roos said.

“You don’t get vaccinated just for yourself, but also for others—you do it for all of society. That’s what they said.”
But that argument no longer holds, Roos explained.
“Today, this turns out to be complete nonsense. In a COVID hearing in the European Parliament, one of the Pfizer directors just admitted to me—at the time of introduction, the vaccine had never been tested on stopping the transmission of the virus.”

The Epoch Times has contacted Pfizer for comment.

What Was Said
The Food and Drug Administration wrote in late 2020 that there was no data available to determine whether the vaccine would prevent transmission and for how long it would protect against transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19.

“At this time, data are not available to make a determination about how long the vaccine will provide protection, nor is there evidence that the vaccine prevents transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from person to person,” the agency specifically noted.​
Meanwhile, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, around the same time, said his firm was “not certain” if those who receive its mRNA vaccine will be able to transmit COVID-19 to other people.
”I think this is something that needs to be examined. We are not certain about that right now,” Bourla told NBC News in December 2020 in response to a question about transmissibility.​
Former White House medical adviser Dr. Deborah Birx in June revealed that there was evidence in December 2020 that individuals who received COVID-19 vaccines, including Pfizer’s, could still transmit the virus.
“We knew early on in January of 2021, in late December of 2020, that reinfection was occurring after natural infection,” Birx, the White House COVID-19 response coordinator during the Trump administration, told members of Congress this year.​
‘Not Going to Get COVID’
A number of officials in the United States and around the world had claimed COVID-19 vaccines could prevent transmission. Among them, President Joe Biden in July 2021 remarked that “you’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”


President Joe Biden speaks, flanked by White House Chief Medical Adviser on COVID-19 Dr. Anthony Fauci, during a visit to the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., on Feb. 11, 2021. (Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images)
Chief Biden administration medical adviser Anthony Fauci in May 2021 said in a CBS interview that vaccinated people are “dead ends” for COVID-19, suggesting they cannot transmit the virus.
“When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said.​
Two months later, in late July of that year, Fauci said that vaccinated people are capable of transmitting the virus.

In the coming months, Fauci, Biden, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, and others pivoted to say the vaccine prevents severe disease, hospitalization, and death from COVID-19.

At least one Twitter-er accepts responsibility... and hopefully learned from his un-erring 'trust'...
Alex Jones apparently has been sued for millions of dollars because he called the Sandy Hoax a hoax, and some people got hurt feelings. I wonder how many millions of dollars all of us are going to be awarded, who lost jobs, couldn't work, couldn't go out, were assaulted and discriminated against for not wearing masks or carrying vaxx passports etc., for all we've had to endure - much more than hurt feelings. And in our case, the lies of Pfizer, the government, the media and the shills were done with foreknowledge that these were indeed lies, rather than an honest but incorrect belief.

I took it because I'm not trying to die.
Also I'm a caregiver for my elderly mother.
If I got covid, I would probably survive it but if I brought it home to her, she probably wouldn't
But the purpose of this thread was to show that even Pfizer now admits it doesn't prevent transmission, so I don't think the second part of your reasoning holds, right?
 
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I figured this out when I got a very bad case of COVID in January, after 3 vaxes. I was very pro-vax in the beginning. But when I caught it, and I had to go to the hospital, I was upset that not only did I get COVID, but also pneumonia and a severe case. Without the monoclonal antibodies they gave me in the hospital, I would be dead. My husband had 2 vaxes, and did get a mild case, but he almost never gets sick for more than 3 days.

I was very angry at the lies the gov't told. I used my vax pass, even though I didn't believe it did anything. It sort of sounds like a betrayal to the anti-vax cause, but in fact, I felt like I was sticking it to people who did trust in the vax, when they should not have.

I do not believe I was vax damaged, but so many people were. I hated the way mandates were forced down our throats, especially in Canada. But then, I never did believe anything Trudeau said or did.

Thanks for publishing this, Nehemiah! The truth is finally known. I just wish we could use this information to force Trudeau to resign and go to jail. Oh well, I can hope and pray!
My family and I avoided Covid for a good while because our community had check points.After when restrictions were loosen up my vaxed sister and mother caught it and it went around the family.Nobody told me that they had it till after I got sick.It felt like the flu.I actually went up on the roof to remove snow while sick even though I felt weak and had no energy.My cough lasted a week and my little niece didn't even get sick.She didn't get vaxed either.Honestly,it didn't seem to hit as hard anymore than a flu to anyone in the family.But during peak covid I'd hear the hospital emergency heli fly into our community almost daily.
 

shittim

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But the purpose of this thread was to show that even Pfizer now admits it doesn't prevent transmission, so I don't think the second part of your reasoning holds, right?
"Dude" misses the mark in so very many areas, leaning on his own understanding and knowing Him not.
 

Nehemiah6

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"Dude" misses the mark in so very many areas, leaning on his own understanding and knowing Him not.
Dude is both willfully ignorant, willfully blind and willfully dishonest.

Lancet Commission Report: 6 Reasons COVID Response "A Massive Global Failure"
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/l...reasons-covid-response-massive-global-failure

We knew this three years ago, but the liars and conspirators refused to admit the truth. And let's not forget that Lancet itself was a part of the conspiracy against the truth. All the medical establishments and all the mainstream media were complicit.
 

Nehemiah6

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JohnDB

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"Prevention from infection" is a clinical term and not as "cut and dry" as it might sound. It also requires 60 months of study to complete.
We are only in the beginning of year 2 for having the MRNA vaccines available in general population. No information is possible yet for a definitive "yes or no" to the question of preventing infection, transmission or anything else at this time.

And considering the billions of infections in the world the variants generated are going to exceed our capacity to provide protection against or treat. There are over 20,000 variants possible with this virus. The original vaccines prevented serious disease of three variants...stretched to five but it really didn't.

Currently there are a few dozen variants in circulation. Most are similar to the common cold...but attacking your endocrine system. There are variants coming that are very serious...open sores, sterility, nervous system failures and more.
We can only rely upon God for our continued survival.

Of course the politicians lied and then committed human rights violations and basic civil rights violations based upon their lies.

The drug companies didn't lie...they knew better. The politicians coerced Fauci to lie...now he is discredited. PHD researchers are not moral giants by any stretch of the imagination...they will steal someone's researchin a split second...but they do have serious issues with lying. False research results are the death of any researcher....so the drug companies have been very careful with claims. Pfizer's vaccine was basically built upon Moderna's vaccine as Moderna hired the researcher who had solved the issue a decade ago with routine vaccine production being problematic with Corona style viruses. (As discovered with Bird Flu and Ebola)

AstraZeneca/Oxford and J&J's vaccines should never have been allowed to be released...but in the chaos and desperation they did. The UK never once admitted to making a mistake...the FDA did pull J&J but due to pressure restored it...however J&J is no longer producing the vaccine.

So....if you want to whine about politicians lying...OK. but that's their nature...
 

ZNP

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So....if you want to whine about politicians lying...OK. but that's their nature...
No that is not the issue.

The issues are:

1. that they mandated it, that is illegal.

2. That they slandered everyone who had questions about the shot.

3. People lost jobs, lost lives, this isn't about "whining". They will be held accountable. This is justice.

No, I don't think the US law courts or any other law court is going to adjudicate this, it is far too big. I think we will have the tribulation and they will have to be judged by God. These are the kind of huge crimes that bring the wrath of God.

And no, the drug companies will not be exonerated. Everyone knows they stood by silently while the slander and the illegal mandates took place.
 

Nehemiah6

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We are only in the beginning of year 2 for having the MRNA vaccines available in general population.
They all should have been BANNED as soon as they appeared on the market. And the results are there for all to see.
 

ZNP

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There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek,