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Are we eternally saved once we are "Born Again"?

  • No one can know until after their physical life is over.

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PennEd

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one of my favorite pre-incarnate Christ Verses
Shemot Chapter 6:
2 God spoke to Moses, and He said to him, "I am the Lord.

3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob with [the name] Almighty God, but [with] My name YHWH, I did not become known to them.
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notice how the Hebrews don't mention specifically [the name]?
look it up it means ELOHIM!
Wonderful.

Is Jesus Christ God? And are there 3 distinct persons in the Godhead or Trinity?

Yes or no will suffice.
 
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Wonderful.

Is Jesus Christ God? And are there 3 distinct persons in the Godhead or Trinity?

Yes or no will suffice.
i don't know if they are Persons because Jesus said God is Spirit. but Jesus is most definitely God and John 14 tells us the Father dwelled inside Him doing the talking and miracles. the Father would not dwell inside someone who was not God! the Father does not dwell inside you or me. but while on His Heavenly Throne He also dwelled inside Jesus, because Jesus [[[is]]] GOD!
 

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Wonderful.

Is Jesus Christ God? And are there 3 distinct persons in the Godhead or Trinity?

Yes or no will suffice.
Do you believe the Holy Bible is non-denominational?
 
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here's a question for YOU!

before becoming flesh, the WORD was Spirit, since the WORD made flesh said God is Spirit.

do you believe that before He was flesh He was Spirit?
 
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Wonderful.

Is Jesus Christ God? And are there 3 distinct persons in the Godhead or Trinity?

Yes or no will suffice.
here's a question for YOU!

before becoming flesh, the WORD was Spirit, since the WORD made flesh said God is Spirit.

do you believe that before He was flesh He was Spirit?
 
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Yep

and god instructed him to write the words. And God (elohim) said let US make man in OUR image and OUR likness
after the Tower of Babel:

Deut 32:
8 When God gave nations their heritage,
when He separated the sons of man,
He set boundaries for the people
by the number of the Sons of God.
9 But Adonai’s portion is His people—
Jacob is the share of His inheritance.


who are the Sons of God that got the other nations?
 

Everlasting-Grace

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after the Tower of Babel:

Deut 32:
8 When God gave nations their heritage,
when He separated the sons of man,
He set boundaries for the people
by the number of the Sons of God.
9 But Adonai’s portion is His people—
Jacob is the share of His inheritance.


who are the Sons of God that got the other nations?
who are the ones who said let us.. in our?
 
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who are the ones who said let us.. in our?
read the Next Verse.

27 God created humankind in His image, in the image of God He created him, male and female He created them.

how come to show equality it doesn't say God created them in Their Image but it shows Singular God Image?
 
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you have no Clue about the meaning of Elohim, Exodus 6, Deut 32, the 8 Verses on the Council of God and you expect me to accept your meaning on Grace and Favor [which you use the English Definitions for everything] and including this current Thread Topic?

o_O
 

Everlasting-Grace

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read the Next Verse.

27 God created humankind in His image, in the image of God He created him, male and female He created them.

how come to show equality it doesn't say God created them in Their Image but it shows Singular God Image?
you did not answer the question.

Who are the US and the OUR? Who was God talking to? or Who was doing the talking?

and PS. Look at the word Humankind. that is singular. Did God just creat one man? Or did he create a race of men. all called mankind/humankind?

of we use your argument on interpreting humankind as you do God. then we should interpret that to be one man. Eve was never created and we have no race of humans..
 

Everlasting-Grace

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you have no Clue about the meaning of Elohim, Exodus 6, Deut 32, the 8 Verses on the Council of God and you expect me to accept your meaning on Grace and Favor [which you use the English Definitions for everything] and including this current Thread Topic?

o_O
you have no idea of the meaning of elohim in Gen 1, so again, using your line of reasoning, I should not listen to you for anything.
 
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you did not answer the question.

Who are the US and the OUR? Who was God talking to? or Who was doing the talking?

and PS. Look at the word Humankind. that is singular. Did God just creat one man? Or did he create a race of men. all called mankind/humankind?

of we use your argument on interpreting humankind as you do God. then we should interpret that to be one man. Eve was never created and we have no race of humans..
i did answer, but you and your English definition are as equal to the Hillbilly Doctrines i have been alerting to so you would not understand the TRUTH if it walked up to you and slapped you on the forehead.
 
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you have no idea of the meaning of elohim in Gen 1, so again, using your line of reasoning, I should not listen to you for anything.
there is the Hebrew meaning and then there is everything else.
i only go by the Hebrew meaning because that is all that matters.
clearly you go by your own understanding which lacks severely in everything i've asked.
 
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actually, you are the one who has no idea what it means.. but thats beside the point. This is a strawman argument, because you have no other argument.
i have the TRUTH from the people who wrote the original Word of God.
you have an English Concordance which interjects falseness into Biblical meaning.
 
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let me show you just how opposite the Languages are:

i am looking at the word [[RED]]

in Hebrew:

Translations of red
adjective
אָדוֹם
red, ruby, scarlet, flush



now in English:

1.
of a color at the end of the spectrum next to orange and opposite violet, as of blood, fire, or rubies.


one match = rubies


it's so vastly different it's impossible to think English could ever describe what the Hebrew is talking about.

and yet, most people are relying upon it to translate the Word of God.

no wonder there's so many wrong interpretations on this Forum.

just in describing the word RED we have 7 opposite possibilities and only ONE MATCH



if you want to understand the Hebrew you go by the Hebrew meaning!

it's not rocket science here, it's a FACT!
 

ResidentAlien

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i did answer, but you and your English definition are as equal to the Hillbilly Doctrines i have been alerting to so you would not understand the TRUTH if it walked up to you and slapped you on the forehead.
I've been meaning to ask, what is a hillbilly doctrine and what makes it a hillbilly doctrine?
 
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JESUS IS THE FATHER
that's clearly what the Jews thought and tried to stone Him for it.

30 I and the Father are one.”
31 Again the Judean leaders picked up stones to stone Him.
32 Yeshua answered them, “I’ve shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these are you going to stone Me?”
33 The Judean leaders answered, “We aren’t stoning you for a good work, but for blasphemy. Though You are a man, You make Yourself God!”