Christians response to gay marriage?

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Just because you keep telling yourself you're not insane for looking at men and finding them attractive doesn't make you correct.

If God says you are an Abomination then you are definitely insane and not normal but a complete Abomination unto God.
I'm sure you have no clue as to who or what i find attractive.

and an ad hominam attack on me doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is not a mental illness.
 
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I'm sure you have no clue as to who or what i find attractive.

and an ad hominam attack on me doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is not a mental illness.
Your spirit gives you away. You have not yet taken the side and position of God but only science. You cannot attack God by siding against Him and simultaneously be a part of Him.

Unless you are claiming to be schizophrenia.
 
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the baker doesn't make vulgar cakes for anyone so his refusal has nothing to do with who the customers are. THe baker did however make wedding cake but he refused to provide that service and broke the law.

He refused to bake ANY cake that went against his religious beliefs. That is why the case was decided in his favor.
 
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racists disagree and are happy to cite any number of biblical verses to support their beliefs.
Doesn't matter, it's not in there. You can make it say anything if you twist it far enough.




no it's what they believe.
It doesn't matter what they believe. What matters is the facts. It does not say that in the Bible, period.

We are talking about marriage being sacred, between a man and a woman, the two become one. How is that possible? Because their bodies were made for each other. To fit together. Marriage in the Bible is sacred. ANY sex outside a marriage is sin. It is a perversion of what God intended. Had it not been for Joseph, Mary could have been stoned, and I don't mean high. That is how seriously God takes marriage and sex. Outside the church doors people will do whatever they wish to do. But inside the church doors homosexuality is a sin. I get that you'll twist that seven ways to Sunday. If you are gay you need to repent, if you are not gay and you are a Christian and telling them it's ok to be gay you are lying to them. And you may not care, you may not think you are doing harm, but you are. And one day they will stand before God and the person who could have told them the truth , YOU, didn't. However you want to live in the world, go do it. But do not come in here with a subject as serious as the sanctity of marriage and say the Bible says its "ok to be gay" talking points. Re- visionist beliefs don't fly here. The Bible says its wrong, clearly and flat out says it's sin. You can't be pro-gay lifestyle and be a Christian, any more than you can be pro-abortion and a Christian. No trying to twist or deceive, homosexuality is sin and thats the last Word on it. Opinions don't matter.
 
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perhaps i should compare their relationships to people having sex with cows.

Perhaps you should. God calls homosexual sex sin and an abomination. As is bestiality. Both are sex outside of marriage and as such is sin. So is pedophilia and adultery.
 
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Paul Cameron the founder of the Family Research Council published a book Special Report: AIDS, which He submitted to the secetrary of health and human services and the Surgeon General advocated establishing massive concentration camps immediately for "sexually active homosexuals," and any that might "conceivably become sexually active". His proposal for funding these camps included selling tickets for citizens to come to the camp and watch homosexuals being tortured, mutilated and executed. It's good to know that this was in no way persecution but just that Cameron disagreed with homosexuals.
Don't know who he is, don't care. Has nothing to do with the situation you're trying to draw a line to.
 
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fact:

Jacques Balthazart 2017 Genetic and Prenatal Components of Homosexuality

Ngun, T. C., & Vilain, E. (2014). The biological basis of human sexual orientation: Is there a role for epigenetics? Advances in Genetics

Sanders, A. R., Martin, E. R., Beecham, G. W., Guo, S., Dawood, K., Rieger, G., … Bailey, J. M. (2015). Genome‐wide scan demonstrates significant linkage for male sexual orientation. Psychological Medicine,

Christoph Abé Cortical (2018) brain structure and sexual orientation in adult females j of brain and behavior

Abé, C., Johansson, E., Allzen, E., & Savic, I. (2014). Sexual orientation related differences in cortical thickness in male individuals. PLoS ONE

Bao, A.‐M., & Swaab, D. F. (2011). Sexual differentiation of the human brain. Frontiers in Neuroendocrinology

Frisell, T., Lichtenstein, P., Rahman, Q., & Langstrom, N. (2010). Psychiatric morbidity associated with same‐sex sexual behaviour: Influence of minority stress and familial factors. Psychological Medicine,

Goldstein, J. M., Seidman, L. J., Horton, N. J., Makris, N., Kennedy, D. N., Caviness, V. S. Jr, … Tsuang, M. T. (2001). Normal sexual dimorphism of the adult human brain assessed by in vivo magnetic resonance imaging. Cerebral Cortex

Hu, S. H., Wei, N., Wang, Q. D., Yan, L. Q., Wei, E. Q., Zhang, M. M., … Xu, Y. (2008). Patterns of brain activation during visually evoked sexual arousal differ between homosexual and heterosexual men. The American Journal of Neuroradiology,

Langstrom, N., Rahman, Q., Carlstrom, E., & Lichtenstein, P. (2010). Genetic and environmental effects on same‐sex sexual behavior: A population study of twins in Sweden. Archives of Sexual Behavior

Peplau, L. A., & Huppin, M. (2008). the development of sexual orientation in women. Journal of Gay & Lesbian Mental Health

Ponseti, J., Bosinski, H. A., Wolff, S., Peller, M., Jansen, O., Mehdorn, H. M., … Siebner, H. R. (2006). A functional endophenotype for sexual orientation in humans. NeuroImage,

Ponseti, J., Siebner, H. R., Kloppel, S., Wolff, S., Granert, O., Jansen, O., … Bosinski, H. A. (2007). Homosexual women have less grey matter in perirhinal cortex than heterosexual women. PLoS ONE,

Rahman, Q. (2005). The neurodevelopment of human sexual orientation. Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Reviews

Sanders, A. R., Beecham, G. W., Guo, S., Dawood, K., Rieger, G., Badner, J. A., … Martin, E. R. (2017). Genome‐wide association study of male sexual orientation. Scientific Reports,

Sanders, A. R., Martin, E. R., Beecham, G. W., Guo, S., Dawood, K., Rieger, G., … Bailey, J. M. (2015). Genome‐wide scan demonstrates significant linkage for male sexual orientation. Psychological Medicine,

Savic, I., & Lindström, P. (2008). PET and MRI show differences in cerebral asymmetry and functional connectivity between homo‐ and heterosexual subjects. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences

Xu, Y., Norton, S., & Rahman, Q. (2017). Sexual orientation and neurocognitive ability: A meta‐analysis in men and women. Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Reviews

Hu S, Xu D, Peterson B, Wang Q, He X, Hu J, et al. Association of Cerebral Networks in Resting State with Sexual Preference of Homosexual Men: A Study of Regional Homogeneity and Functional Connectivity. PLoS One. 2013;

Safron A, Barch B, Bailey JM, Gitelman DR, Parrish TB, Reber PJ. Neural Correlates of Sexual Arousal in Homosexual and Heterosexual Men. Behav Neurosci. 2007;

Savic I, Lindstrom P. PET and MRI show differences in cerebral asymmetry and functional connectivity between homo- and heterosexual subjects. Proc Natl Acad Sci. 2008;

And I bet they would all agree with this...


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just like those segregation era restaraunts [/QUOTE]

You're lying now. It's not the same and I know what the decision said. His religious rights were infringed on, he won the case. That's the end of it and that is why it is not the same.
 
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the baker doesn't make vulgar cakes for anyone so his refusal has nothing to do with who the customers are. THe baker did however make wedding cake but he refused to provide that service and broke the law.


Why have you not made a comment on any other thread??
 
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Don't know who he is, don't care. Has nothing to do with the situation you're trying to draw a line to.
you probably do know him or at least his work. Paul Cameron is he creator of some of the Christian rights mots venomous lies and fake science. His fake research includes homosexuals have shorter life expediencies, that homosexuals are are predators of children and all mass murders are homosexuals to name a few.
 

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and why did you go on this date?
Because at that time, I chose to be "into" men and not women and accepted the date. I probably made that choice before, like when i first wanted to date, but that was when it was cemented. It was cemented again when I chose to get married in November of 1991 to my now late husband. I can change my choice anytime I want, but I continue to choose men. That is the beauty of action and choice of love. I would rather know someone wants me, because they choose to want me, over wanting me because of some sort of chemical in their brains that may or may not be healthy at that moment. We are not slaves to our emotions, we control them.
Now I have things to do, so I am off for the day. I'm done with this. You won't change my mind, and I won't change your mind.
Have a good one.
Peace!!
 
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A fine example of irony.


Apparently you don't understand the meaning of irony. The Bible is 110% clear, marriage is between a man and a woman, homosexuality is sin.
 

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Glassgold, J. M. (2022). Research on sexual orientation change efforts: A summary. In D. C. Haldeman (Ed.), The case against conversion “therapy”: Evidence, ethics, and alternatives (pp. 19–50). American Psychological Association.

American Psychological Association: Report of the Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation. 2009.

Flentje A, Heck NC, Cochran BN: Sexual reorientation therapy interventions: Perspectives of ex-ex-gay individuals. J Gay Lesbian Ment Health. 2013

Jones SL, Yarhouse MA: A longitudinal study of attempted religiously mediated sexual orientation change. J Sex Marital Ther. 2011

Meanley S, Haberlen SA, Okafor CN, et al.: Lifetime exposure to conversion therapy and psychosocial health among midlife and older adult men who have sex with men. Gerontologist. 2020

Diamond LM, Rosky CJ: Scrutinizing immutability: Research on sexual orientation and US legal advocacy for sexual minorities. J Sex Res. 2016

Sullins DP: Replication Data for: Efficacy and Risk of Sexual Orientation Change Efforts (SOCE) in a U.S. Sample of 125 Sexual Minority Men. Harvard Dataverse. 2021


My favorite piece of evidence comes form 2016 when a rally and march by ex-gays was held in Washington DC. No one showed up

Not proof.
Proof is inherent at conception.
 
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why would i say something so sick and bigoted and hateful?

In God's eyes homosexuality is an abomination. It is not love, it is not natural, it is not condoned. It is outside of what God created. The point was made that "love is love" can pertain to any situation, as was demonstrated with pedophilia. So you can twist in the wind, but the Bible is 110% clear, homosexuality is un-natural and outside of what God intended it to be. If you are either believing or telling people anything else, you are lying to them and putting their souls in danger. Homosexuality is a bondage to sin, it is wrong. Period.