Mauna Loa erupting

[Lanolin]

Russia is mostly constrained cos they dont have a warm water port, and pretty much frozen for much of the year, its simple geography. They cant fly everything when shipping is more economical. Also its a very wide country.

 

[Lanolin]

all militaries tell themselves they are fighting for the greater good of others.
But they arent really aware of the impact of that for when they are slaughtered to their wives and children back home who have to cope without them.

 

[Lanolin]

wasnt it magenta who complained that the US had school shooting s because of fatherless. And just WHY are they fatherless, well didnt the US men go off to war.

also kids watch people with guns on american tv and video games and think its a cool thing to do.

 

[Lanolin]

Another thing is the Avengers series, or Captain America underpants, justice league, superman, batman, etc. American comic books heroes but what do they really do, teach venegeance is ok.

Its not like the group is called THE FORGIVERS

 

[Cameron143]

wasnt it magenta who complained that the US had school shooting s because of fatherless. And just WHY are they fatherless, well didnt the US men go off to war.

also kids watch people with guns on american tv and video games and think its a cool thing to do.

Your replies miss the point on a number of levels.
I appreciate the time you have taken to respond but the differences we have in world view and perspective are a bridge to far in my opinion to provide enough common ground for a fruitful discussion on this topic.

 

[Billyd]

How are Climatologists going to explain global climate change when there are no more fossil fuel emissions?

 

[Dude653]

This could put out more" carbon emissions" than everything man made out together this year and guess what?
The billionaires, their politicians and media won't say a word about that. Why?
Could it be that they haven't figured out a way to tax volcanoes yet?

Well of course you can't do anything about a volcano because that's out of our control but do you remember a couple years ago when a tornado came through Hickman Kentucky in December?
It almost wiped out the entire city. It looked like Somalia after a drone strike
I would say when it's 70° in december, this is evidence that climate change is a real thing

 

[Cameron143]

Well of course you can't do anything about a volcano because that's out of our control but do you remember a couple years ago when a tornado came through Hickman Kentucky in December?
It almost wiped out the entire city. It looked like Somalia after a drone strike
I would say when it's 70° in december, this is evidence that climate change is a real thing

That's evidence of a temperature change. Climate deals with much longer periods. And no one says climates don't change. The arguments are concerning whether the effects are actually deleterious, what are the actual causes, and what is the best way forward.
The climate has always changed since the onset of sin. Greenland was green at one point. There have been warmer periods in history.
So why such alarmism in our time? What is the optimum temperature for the globe? Who can even be trusted to make such assessments?
There are these and a host of other questions that need to be answered that a 70 degree day in December fails to answer.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

isnt that volcano always erupting though?

Should people be surprised when volcanoes do what volcanoes do?

I haven't cared enough to research it or keep up with the volcanic activities until now. That's good to know though to see if there's a trend and if they could potentially change the air quality. BTW, There were three volcanoes in this news cycle posted. Which one are you referring to?

 

[Dude653]

That's evidence of a temperature change. Climate deals with much longer periods. And no one says climates don't change. The arguments are concerning whether the effects are actually deleterious, what are the actual causes, and what is the best way forward.
The climate has always changed since the onset of sin. Greenland was green at one point. There have been warmer periods in history.
So why such alarmism in our time? What is the optimum temperature for the globe? Who can even be trusted to make such assessments?
There are these and a host of other questions that need to be answered that a 70 degree day in December fails to answer.

These aren't just isolated incidents though. This is trending every winter now

 

[Cameron143]

These aren't just isolated incidents though. This is trending every winter now

Yes. But according to who? Anecdotal evidence is only proof of what is currently happening in a particular place and time. And it usually comes with bias these days. You have been conditioned to believe it so you do.

 

[Eli1]

Your replies miss the point on a number of levels.
I appreciate the time you have taken to respond but the differences we have in world view and perspective are a bridge to far in my opinion to provide enough common ground for a fruitful discussion on this topic.

Hello dear friend. Are you ex-military by the way?

 

[Cameron143]

Hello dear friend. Are you ex-military by the way?

Hey brother. No, I've never served in the military, but I grew up in a military town and have many friends and family who served.
I attempted to make that known in the post because I'm aware how much it informs my view of the subject.

 

[Dude653]

Yes. But according to who? Anecdotal evidence is only proof of what is currently happening in a particular place and time. And it usually comes with bias these days. You have been conditioned to believe it so you do.

If it's happening consistently every winter now, that's data, not anecdote

 

[Cameron143]

If it's happening consistently every winter now, that's data, not anecdote

If I thought you were serious about a discussion I would continue. I voiced some concerns and asked some questions that you ignored and twice reiterated your initial thought. If you care to actually address the issue and questions surrounding it, feel free.

 

[Dude653]

If I thought you were serious about a discussion I would continue. I voiced some concerns and asked some questions that you ignored and twice reiterated your initial thought. If you care to actually address the issue and questions surrounding it, feel free.

Okay you said the earth goes through climate cycles and I'm aware of that
Then you contradicted yourself and said that climate does change but it's because of sin
And you're still arguing that it's only a few isolated incidents of it being 70° in December but this is happening consistently now every winter
Just 30 years ago we weren't seeing tornadoes in December even 20 years ago we weren't seeing tornadoes in December

 

[Cameron143]

Okay you said the earth goes through climate cycles and I'm aware of that
Then you contradicted yourself and said that climate does change but it's because of sin
And you're still arguing that it's only a few isolated incidents of it being 70° in December but this is happening consistently now every winter
Just 30 years ago we weren't seeing tornadoes in December even 20 years ago we weren't seeing tornadoes in December

I don't see the contradiction between saying the initial cause of climate change is sin and its continued existence. I would like to know your reasoning as to why that is contradictory.
But why are you so alarmed by climate change? What temperature will achieve the most ideal conditions for mankind?

 

[Dude653]

I don't see the contradiction between saying the initial cause of climate change is sin and its continued existence. I would like to know your reasoning as to why that is contradictory.
But why are you so alarmed by climate change? What temperature will achieve the most ideal conditions for mankind?

I believe I've already answered why I'm alarmed by climate change. It's not supposed to be 70° in december.
All those people in Mayfield Kentucky who lost their lives and lost their homes. According to you they must have been sinng real bad right?
🤡

 

[ZNP]

Greenland was green at one point.

When was Greenland green? Sure 359 million years ago, but that was because Greenland was in the temperate region of the Earth, that is plate tectonics, not climate change.

 

[Cameron143]

I believe I've already answered why I'm alarmed by climate change. It's not supposed to be 70° in december.
All those people in Mayfield Kentucky who lost their lives and lost their homes. According to you they must have been sinng real bad right?
🤡

No. My allusion to sin was about the effect it has had on the weather, not that it was a predictor of people's sinfulness.
And the reason I asked you about the ideal climate for the world is because you assume because weather patterns are changing this of necessity must be bad. Why isn't 70 degree weather in December a good thing? Who told you that this must be bad? I can think of a myriad of reasons why it is good.
So, again, for what reasons is a change in climate necessarily bad?