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Live4Him3

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Be honest do you like violence
eg

watching fights
or blood sports
shooting guns
anything involving being hurt, blown up or killing?

I just wonder what the appeal is. I mean ok maybe it shows you are tough and big and strong but who is looking after the injured and wounded, or is it a badge of honour to have a black eye and your teeth knocked out?
No, I don't like violence.

I grew up watching Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson movies that were filled with violence. I also was pretty heavily into movies like "Dawn of the Dead" or movies in which the dead roamed the earth as flesh-eating zombies.

After I became a Christian, I went to see a movie that contained violence in it, and the Holy Spirit inside of me was terribly grieved by it. I got up and left the movie theater.

Nowadays, I'm very cautious as to what I yield my eyes and spirit to. Basically, I only let things in that are somehow related to love because that is what I ultimately want to come out of me. That said, I have made some exceptions, but they were premeditated exceptions.

For example, I did go to the movie theater with my three children to watch the latest "Batman" movie. There was definitely some violence in that movie, and they also pretty regularly took Jesus' name in vain throughout the movie. At the same time, however, I thought that they did a very good job at showing how the human psyche causes men and women to behave certain ways or to fall into certain types of lifestyles, and I used that as a teaching opportunity to potentially share some spiritual truths with my children.

But, no, I don't like violence, and I cringe when I see it (if I even keep my eyes open to see it).
 

Lanolin

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Once were Warriors was another movie that was violent. I forget the rating now but I rememeber when it first came out and shown on tv it was probably the most shocking thing to witness a drunken cussing Jake the Muss beat up his wife and throw chairs and order her to cook eggs.

Then the rape of the daughter.

And for many women, that was just ordinary everyday life they had to put up with...gang culture and drunkeness, children waiting in the car while their parents at the pub, getting stoned and then abusive. And not being able to do a thing about it. Why, because he was their DAD.
 

Lanolin

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when the duaghter killed herself that was just saddest.

In the end Beth left Jake but you can see why some wives stay in abusive relationships/marriages. they have very few options. Especially if the drunken spouse holds the purse strings.
 

Lanolin

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I never read a lot of superhero comics (now called 'graphic novels' ) I was more into the humourous cartoons/comic strips not the violent ones. But for a time I read Catwoman series

Both Marvel and DC actually do contain a lot of violence. Catwoman had a whip or cat o 9 tails and she would steal from the bad guys, and they were always out to kill her, though she constantly outwitted them.

I tried to get into reading superhero comics and some manga just to see what the appeal was but I think the contstant costume changes and often senseless violence just bored me to tears. I think that they just had to keep coming up with new ways for bad guys to be bad so the 'good guys' could look like superheroes. lol
 

Lanolin

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Sorted through all the suggestions and ditched all the notes that wished for 'pillow fight'. At least nobody suggested 'food fight'.

I had one casualty though, a dogs ear got ripped off so had to sew him up and now hes only got one ear. I dont know WHERE the ear went.
 

Lanolin

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The dog will now be known as Vincent Van Pug.
 

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I was reading how Ant Man fought the bad guys and that fighting was good if you are on the 'good side' but ... I am sure some people always think of themselves as good anyway so a fight doesnt really matter for them.

I guess some peoole dont understand the concept of non-violence resistance or anything like that.
 

Lanolin

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its no use teaching peaceful protest to people who cant read...it would be no use having signs and placards if people cant read whats written on them...
 

SomeDisciple

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As long as it's not gore and pointless violence for the sake of violence, it doesn't bother me.

From what I understand, the violence in the Hunger Games is pointless violence- but it serves one of the overall themes of the story- that this society that dominated these weaker ones is forcing them to do this pointless violence- and they are trying to survive it. (I havent read the books, and slept through most of the movie).
 

Lanolin

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As long as it's not gore and pointless violence for the sake of violence, it doesn't bother me.

From what I understand, the violence in the Hunger Games is pointless violence- but it serves one of the overall themes of the story- that this society that dominated these weaker ones is forcing them to do this pointless violence- and they are trying to survive it. (I havent read the books, and slept through most of the movie).
we have a real life hunger games at school...the leftover school lunches get sent to the high school and the hungry teens fight each other to grab the lunches. Well thats what one of the teacher aide says. 'Its the real life hunger games'

Its not, they put their names down for a free school lunch or anything. Its like ram raids at dairies and shops. Those kids are hungry and nobody is bothering to look after them or feed them properly, just giving them leftover scraps like a lolly scramble.
 
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we have a real life hunger games at school...the leftover school lunches get sent to the high school and the hungry teens fight each other to grab the lunches. Well thats what one of the teacher aide says. 'Its the real life hunger games'

Its not, they put their names down for a free school lunch or anything. Its like ram raids at dairies and shops. Those kids are hungry and nobody is bothering to look after them or feed them properly, just giving them leftover scraps like a lolly scramble.
You ever see any stats on underserved % of population in your county?
 

Lanolin

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been to jail...not a place you'd really want to go

I mean just visiting....
 
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I mean just visiting....
I got my first NT while doing time when I was 16. Never read a word. Used the pages to roll tobacco. Actually, jail wasn't bad but my other addictions kept me from going back after being released and having done only half of my 6-month sentence thanks to a corrupt system that took bribes. i.e. $2500 in 1969 which was a good chunk of change. The guy in charge of the facility was a bit upset as he wanted to get my sentence extended to a year.
 

Lanolin

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I got my first NT while doing time when I was 16. Never read a word. Used the pages to roll tobacco. Actually, jail wasn't bad but my other addictions kept me from going back after being released and having done only half of my 6-month sentence thanks to a corrupt system that took bribes. i.e. $2500 in 1969 which was a good chunk of change. The guy in charge of the facility was a bit upset as he wanted to get my sentence extended to a year.
i thought the NTs I gave the prisons (whole box of them) might be used for toilet paper or something...

Though some prisoners do learn to read.
 

Lanolin

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PD (periodic detention) workers used to garden the community garden. But their supervisors were lazy sods lol. Just sat round ordering them about and didnt pitch in to help.
 

Dude653

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#38
I have to admit when I'm watching a movie or TV show, it's satisfying to see the bad guy get what's coming to him
 

justahumanbeing

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I'm a martial artist. So, yes. I like violence. Controlled, effective, violence.

I do it all. But I don't do mixed martial arts. I don't compete MMA.

However I do compete as a grappler. I've trained and sparred in many disciplines.

I do this and it has helped me to get out of childhood trauma. It helps me to have a good relationship with people and have some self confidence which I lacked growing up.

Healthy outbursts of violence does help. We do have that side of the man or woman in us. "It's the art of expressing the human body." As Bruce Lee would say.

However, I'm no fan of taking a life. I don't like guns. I don't like treating people without self respect or dignity. I don't like bloodshed. Verbal abuse, etc, etc.

It's good to be violent. But what's important is where, when and why. If you got that sorted, you can be violent without hurting someone who isn't looking to get hurt, in a controlled atmosphere, like a boxing ring or grappling mats.
 

Lanolin

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I'm a martial artist. So, yes. I like violence. Controlled, effective, violence.

I do it all. But I don't do mixed martial arts. I don't compete MMA.

However I do compete as a grappler. I've trained and sparred in many disciplines.

I do this and it has helped me to get out of childhood trauma. It helps me to have a good relationship with people and have some self confidence which I lacked growing up.

Healthy outbursts of violence does help. We do have that side of the man or woman in us. "It's the art of expressing the human body." As Bruce Lee would say.

However, I'm no fan of taking a life. I don't like guns. I don't like treating people without self respect or dignity. I don't like bloodshed. Verbal abuse, etc, etc.

It's good to be violent. But what's important is where, when and why. If you got that sorted, you can be violent without hurting someone who isn't looking to get hurt, in a controlled atmosphere, like a boxing ring or grappling mats.
what about just dancing...?