Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[Papermonkey]

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Quite a few folk were confident that the Covid data would eventually prove
Dr. Anthony Fauci's science to be wrong, and sure enough, in less than 2
years time, it did. (Not to mention exposing the good doctor to be a medical
quack with so little integrity as to be fit for little else than a cell in San Quentin.)

In contrast; 65 years of multi-national exploration in space have gone by since the
first Sputnik, and the mountains of data accumulated in those many years-- clear
on up to Capt. Kirk's adventure aboard a Blue Origin vehicle --has consistently proven
the Earth to be shaped like a ball; while consistently proving the flatters, the cubers,
and the concavers to be guilty of attempting to gaslight the rest of us.
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Inmate Fauci, in San Quinten.
Ah, if only. That would indeed be justice. Full justice being seizure of all his assets, even those he'd try to hide, and proceeds going in equal measure to the surviving family members of those who died. Or, suffered injury due to his quackery.

There is one judgement his money will not buy him out of. And he's old.

 

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Quite a few folk were confident that the Covid data would eventually prove
Dr. Anthony Fauci's science to be wrong, and sure enough, in less than 2
years time, it did. (Not to mention exposing the good doctor to be a medical
quack with so little integrity as to be fit for little else than a cell in San Quentin.)

In contrast; 65 years of multi-national exploration in space have gone by since the
first Sputnik, and the mountains of data accumulated in those many years-- clear
on up to Capt. Kirk's adventure aboard a Blue Origin vehicle --has consistently proven
the Earth to be shaped like a ball; while consistently proving the flatters, the cubers,
and the concavers to be guilty of attempting to gaslight the rest of us.
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I haven't been vaccinated for Covid 19 and don't plan to be.

I'm not sure how Captain Kirk has proven the globalist right, but maybe you have to believe what you see on t.v., to believe in the Heliocentric model?!?!

This picture here is man on mars, so get ready, it will happen soon. Oh wait, I saw it on my computer screen, it must be real. lol

Let me know when you have proof that earth is a globe?!?! I'll wait.

The light is your friend, just don't get to close, because it burns. lol

 

[RaceRunner]

If the Earth were a globe, there certainly would be—if we could imagine the thing to be peopled all round—“antipodes:” “people who,” says the dictionary, “living exactly on the opposite side of the globe to ourselves, have their feet opposite to ours:”—people who are hanging heads downwards whilst we are standing heads up! But, since the theory allows us to travel to those parts of the Earth where the people are said to be heads downwards, and still to fancy ourselves to be heads upwards and our friends whom we have left behind us to be heads downwards, it follows that the whole thing is a myth—a dream—a delusion—and a snare; and, instead of there being any evidence at all in this direction to substantiate the popular theory, it is a plain proof that the Earth is not a globe.

 

[RaceRunner]

If we examine a true picture of the distant horizon, or the thing itself, we shall find that it coincides exactly with a perfectly straight and level line. Now, since there could be nothing of the kind on a globe, and we find it to be the case all over the Earth, it is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.

 

[RaceRunner]

If we take a journey down the Chesapeake Bay, by night, we shall see the “light” exhibited at Sharpe’s Island for an hour before the steamer gets to it. We may take up a position on the deck so that the rail of the vessel’s side will be in a line with the “light” and in the line of sight; and we shall find that in the whole journey the light will not vary in the slightest degree in its apparent elevation. But, say that a distance of thirteen miles has been traversed, the astronomers’ theory of “curvature” demands a difference (one way or the other!) in the apparent elevation of the light, of 112 feet 8 inches! Since, however, there is not a difference of 112 hair’s breadths, we have a plain proof that the water of the Chesapeake Bay is not curved, which is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.

 

[RaceRunner]

If the Earth were a globe, there would, very likely, be (for nobody knows) six months day and six months night at the arctic and antarctic regions, as astronomers dare to assert there is:—for their theory demands it! But, as this fact—the six months day and six months night—is nowhere found but in the arctic regions, it agrees perfectly with everything else that we know about the Earth as a plane, and, whilst it overthrows the “accepted theory,” it furnishes a striking proof that Earth is not a globe.

 

[RaceRunner]

When the Sun crosses the equator, in March, and begins to circle round the heavens in north latitude, the inhabitants of high northern latitudes see him skimming round their horizon and forming the break of their long day, in a horizontal course, not disappearing again for six months, as he rises higher and higher in the heavens whilst he makes his twenty-four hour circle until June, when he begins to descend and goes on until he disappears beyond the horizon in September. Thus, in the northern regions, they have that which the traveller calls the “midnight Sun,” as he sees that luminary at a time when, in his more southern latitude, it is always midnight. If, then, for one-half the year, we may see for ourselves the Sun making horizontal circles round the heavens, it is presumptive evidence that, for the other half-year, he is doing the same, although beyond the boundary of our vision. This, being a proof that Earth is a plane, is, therefore, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.

 

[RaceRunner]

We have abundance of evidence that the Sun moves daily round and over the Earth in circles concentric with the northern region over which hangs the North Star; but, since the theory of the Earth being a globe is necessarily connected with the theory of its motion round the Sun in a yearly orbit, it falls to the ground when we bring forward the evidence of which we speak, and, in so doing, forms a proof that the Earth is not a globe.

 

[RaceRunner]

The Suez Canal, which joins the Red Sea with the Mediterranean, is about one hundred miles long; it forms a straight and level surface of water from one end to the other; and no “allowance” for any supposed “curvature” was made in its construction. It is a clear proof that the Earth is not a globe.

 

[Webers.Home]

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Let me know when you have proof that earth is a globe

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You gotta love Rainman's one-track mind. He's a riot!
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[Papermonkey]

 

[GaryA]

There’s the rub: right understanding of Scripture depends on not taking every word literally.

The right understanding of Scripture depends on the correct/proper discernment of whether a verse or passage intends to annotate, characterize, chronicle, describe, expound, illustrate, narrate, etc.

The 'literal or not' question is answered out of that discernment.

 

[GaryA]

Genesis describes some things in the creation week that make a flat, stationary earth impossible.

Like what...?

 

[Papermonkey]

You also end up with men who have breasts that produce milk. It's quite irresponsible to take everything literally.
Genesis describes some things in the creation week that make a flat, stationary earth impossible.
Flerthers ignore those things and take 'literally' the things that fit their worldview.

Of course.
It could be worse. There could be, or probably is when FE's Satirists exist, those who believe Earth is a square because of the Biblical references to the four corners of the Earth in scripture.

I wonder what FE's think the pillars are erected upon that hold up their flat world.
1 Samuel 2:8 He raises up the poor from the dust; he lifts the needy from the ash heap to make them sit with princes and inherit a seat of honor. For the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and on them he has set the world.

 

[Papermonkey]

As has been explained numerous times, light doesn't travel infinitely. Just because Earth is flat doesn't mean there can't be day or night.

Flat Earth is an observation. Just because a theory doesn't exist or is incomplete, doesn't make it false.

Did you read what you wrote before committing it to post?

Just because a theory doesn't exist doesn't make it false?

Also, if a theory is incomplete then it is false due to its incompleteness not qualifying as theory.


Theory

1: a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena .

 

[GaryA]

Because God inspired the intellect in humans to reach for the stars , and achieve their goal.

This is human pride talking.

It "aspires" to steal from God the glory of His creation - and instead - give it to man for the "achievement" of their goal.

It is one thing to desire to better understand what God has done - to accept it and learn from it - while giving Him the glory.

However, it "spits in His face" to attempt to change and replace - through "human discovery" - what He has already told us about it.

Instead of "seeking out" what God has done - on His terms - man tries to come up with their own "alternate reality" version of creation.

To properly give God the glory He deserves for His creation - begins with accepting what He says about His own creation in the Bible.

Because the Earth is not flat and this is God's way of proving it when some of us first ignore his words that refer to the circle of the earth.

I personally believe that the 'circle of the earth' is referring to what we call the 'ice ring' rather than the silhouette of a ball earth.

I personally believe that the shape of the earth is square - with four corners - having the 'circle of the earth' at the center.

The 'circle of the earth' represents the 'habitable' part of the earth.

Ignoring evidence sustaining proof of a globe earth doesn't make the Earth flat.

There is nothing wrong with questioning and refuting "science so called"...

I have not seen any "sustaining proof" of a globe earth; albeit, I have gotten a life-long "fill" of globe earth lies and propaganda.

 

[GaryA]

God separated dark from light, day from night. Stationary flat earth models don't account for that.

Why do people keep saying things like this when the internet is REPLETE with articles, videos, etc. that explain in detail exactly how this works in the Flat Earth model...???

This is Flat Earth 101. And, it is very well explained and exceedingly clarified.

 

[GaryA]

FE is not Biblical.

What are you going to say to God when he shows you that it is in fact very much Biblical.

Be thinking about it - with certainty, it is coming - it will happen...

 

[Papermonkey]

This is human pride talking.

It "aspires" to steal from God the glory of His creation - and instead - give it to man for the "achievement" of their goal.

It is one thing to desire to better understand what God has done - to accept it and learn from it - while giving Him the glory.

However, it "spits in His face" to attempt to change and replace - through "human discovery" - what He has already told us about it.

Instead of "seeking out" what God has done - on His terms - man tries to come up with their own "alternate reality" version of creation.

To properly give God the glory He deserves for His creation - begins with accepting what He says about His own creation in the Bible.


I personally believe that the 'circle of the earth' is referring to what we call the 'ice ring' rather than the silhouette of a ball earth.

I personally believe that the shape of the earth is square - with four corners - having the 'circle of the earth' at the center.

The 'circle of the earth' represents the 'habitable' part of the earth.


There is nothing wrong with questioning and refuting "science so called"...

I have not seen any "sustaining proof" of a globe earth; albeit, I have gotten a life-long "fill" of globe earth lies and propaganda.

Lies do not refute science. Denial of proofs does not refute science.

It doesn't bother me a bit when a FE makes the charge of pride against God given intellect that allows us to journey to his creation and prove to unbelievers the truth of his word, made manifest by proof of the existence of all he said he hath made.

God created the Earth, Moon, Sun, and all that exists in our solar system, galaxy, universe, and beyond. All that is seen and unseen is of God.

When the phases of the Moon prove Earth is not flat FE ignorance can call that and all else pride if it chooses to do so.

I am quite proud not to be so ignorant so as to deny all God's proofs Earth is not flat.
God knows it is arrogant to insist God cannot have made a globe Earth. Especially so when some FE's admit all other planets in our solar system are not discs.

https://thelifepile.com/2017/08/25/history-flat-earth-theory/
Ancient flat Earth theory

The ancient origins of the belief in a flat Earth are simply the lack of science, ignorance and religion.

However, this belief continued even past 240 BC, when Eratosthenes determined the circumference of our planet. During the 4th century, Severian, Bishop of Gabala, wrote that the Earth is flat and the sun does not pass under it in the night, but “travels through the northern parts as if hidden by a wall” Ptolemy, a 2nd century Roman mathematician and astronomer, mapped the globe and developed the system of latitude, longitude, and climes. His work later found popularity during the 9th century Abbasid Caliphate, when Muslim scholars translated Ptolemy’s work and extended and updated his work based on spherical ideas. By the 11th century, Europe had learned of Islamic astronomy and western scientists started accepting that the Earth is a spherical globe.
Ancient flat Earth theory

The ancient origins of the belief in a flat Earth are simply the lack of science, ignorance and religion. However, this belief continued even past 240 BC, when Eratosthenes determined the circumference of our planet.


During the 4th century, Severian, Bishop of Gabala, wrote that the Earth is flat and the sun does not pass under it in the night, but “travels through the northern parts as if hidden by a wall”


Ptolemy, a 2nd century Roman mathematician and astronomer, mapped the globe and developed the system of latitude, longitude, and climes. His work later found popularity during the 9th century Abbasid Caliphate, when Muslim scholars translated Ptolemy’s work and extended and updated his work based on spherical ideas.


By the 11th century, Europe had learned of Islamic astronomy and western scientists started accepting that the Earth is a spherical globe. *Continues at original link*


This thread only encourages us to give a platform to a myth long proven as such. And the subject of FE opportunity to become popular on search engines due to the keywords it generates.

Game of Thrones had fun with the FE'ers ice wall.
That HBO series was fiction too.

2019 humor throwback
All aboard the Flat Earth cruise – just don’t tell them about nautical navigation
This article is more than 3 years old
Flat earthers, who believe the Earth is a large disk, may be shocked to find the ship’s navigation is based on a spherical planet

Did TFES ever update the findings from that cruise?



We could be discussing the Bible rather than continue to be distracted by this sillyness for 140 pages.

 

[GaryA]

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I have seen movies and photos of the A-bombs that went off on Hiroshima
and Nagasaki, but I didn't see either one of them go off for myself, i.e. I
wasn't an eye witness to those detonations.

When I was a kid in California back in the decade of the 1950s, my dad took
me outside to watch an A-bomb test in New Mexico. We lived too far away to
actually see the bomb go off, but I did a glow in the eastern sky that my dad
said was the bomb.

So to this day, I have never actually seen an A-bomb go off. Is that
sufficient reason for me to believe the bombs are a hoax?

I served on several juries. In none of those cases was I an eye-witness to
the facts, yet I was required to pass judgment on them based upon the
testimony of witnesses whom I'd never met. Is that sufficient reason for me
to believe those cases were groundless?

I have seen lots of movies and photos of the Earth from space. I have
never seen the Earth from space for myself, i.e. I am not an eye-witness of
the Earth's shape. Is that sufficient reason for me to believe those movies
and photos are fake?

Christ's apostles left behind gospels and epistles claiming their leader's
crucified dead body was restored to life. I myself have never seen Christ;
either before or after his death, i.e. I am not an eye-witness to his life and
times. Is that sufficient reason for me to believe those gospels and epistles
are fiction?

It is impossible to go thru life without the element of trust. Sooner or later, if
not all the time, we have to take somebody's word for it that certain things
are true without our actually seeing them true for ourselves. There's just no
getting out of it.

The thing is: there is just too much evidence, and too many witnesses,
verifying that the Earth is a ball rather than a disk; and the witnesses and
the evidence have been corroborating ever since Russia's first Sputnik back
in October of 1957.

In order to convince folks that the Earth is flat, it would be necessary to first
discredit the science and industry of the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX, Blue
Origin, Google Earth, and the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging
teams, all the mission specialists, all the astronauts, all the cartographers,
all the astronomers, and all the folks involved in designing the GPS system
and satellite communications. In other words: flatters had a slim chance of
being right prior to the space age, but now they have no chance at all.
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You certainly make a good point - we are all faced with discerning truth and lies.

What if - just what if - a lot of what you are talking about is just "wool pulled over the eyes" of the masses?

Why are you not willing to believe that Satan - over thousands of years of time - could orchestrate such a thing?

Why do Christians not realize, understand, and accept - that the 'spiritual' realm is "more real" than the 'physical' realm?

In that last paragraph - you are going about it the wrong way. All of that may be solved-and-dispelled in an instant - the moment you decide to believe what God says over what man says.

God says the earth is motionless.

If you willing to believe what God says - and accept it as truth - the problem is solved.

Seek after God and His knowledge, understanding, and wisdom - and not that of man.

Always start with what God says - first, believe it - then, make it the true foundation.

Never use what man says as the starting point or the 'base' foundation of anything.