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In both places you would have a perfect body and mind. The difference is Revelation 21:3, Job 33:25, Isaiah 6:5-6 would apply. Everything around you would be majestically beautiful. You would have full use of your brain so learning would be like "the sky is the limit", and endless days to just live and enjoy, Proverb 2:21, Isaiah 45:18 What would you want to learn, do, be within God's limits?
 

oyster67

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I wonder if we will explore outer space?
 

Webers.Home

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There are quite a few amazing places around the world that I will never get
to in this life. Sometime during Messiah's administration, I'd like to catch up
on those places before the Earth is gone forever
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Cameron143

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and why so many galaxies with suns and inhabitable planets
We may or may not get to search the galaxies, but the size of the universe is no doubt meant to lead us to the wonder of the magnitude and majesty of God. It helps us understand the infinite nature of God.
 

Nehemiah6

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But then why would He have made it so big?
To show mankind His glory and His power: For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse (Rom 1:20)
 

Pilgrimshope

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We may or may not get to search the galaxies, but the size of the universe is no doubt meant to lead us to the wonder of the magnitude and majesty of God. It helps us understand the infinite nature of God.
Yep all Of creation sings and shouts of his majesty from start to star and sea to sea and man to man

It’s just that we are finding out his creation is a lot bigger than we thought and understood . infinite is our God who holds eternity in his palm
 

Cameron143

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Yep all Of creation sings and shouts of his majesty from start to star and sea to sea and man to man

It’s just that we are finding out his creation is a lot bigger than we thought and understood . infinite is our God who holds eternity in his palm
Amen.
 

Pilgrimshope

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1 Corinthians 1:27-29
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By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:3‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1-3, 9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

As big and immeasurable as we imagine the universe it’s awe inspiring to realize he measured it out , he framed it , and as the great and skillful carpenter he is created it from scratch And built its foundations from the power of his word

“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

knowing all that his word accomplishes gives us faith in his ability to accomplish this word spoken to all creation

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He still speaks into darkness d light shines from what wasn’t there before let there be the light of the gospel

“For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Pilgrimshope

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hidden

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

beginning of revelation

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

hidden

“And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:2-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Revelation

In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John‬ ‭1:4

Earthly creation ( spiritually hidden )

“And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Spiritual revelation of the natural

And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:5‬ ‭

The same as in the beginning the order of creation , the natural and then the spiritual

“Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural;

and afterward that which is spiritual.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:46‬ ‭KJV‬‬

two covenants
 

Pilgrimshope

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Nehemiah 9:6 plus John 1:3
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@Nehemiah6 this is my first and only panel with Nehemiah:DNever before posted;)
“..Stand up and bless the LORD your God for ever and ever: and blessed be thy glorious name, which is exalted above all blessing and praise. “

“Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Thou, even thou, art LORD alone;

thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all;

and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.”
‭‭Nehemiah‬ ‭9:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God, ..hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power,

when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.

But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: A sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; And the heavens are the works of thine hands:

They shall perish; but thou remainest: And they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, And they shall be changed:

But thou art the same, And thy years shall not fail.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:1-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭13:8‬ ‭

he like all the prophets has alot of good things to say that set a foundation for the New Testament revelation of Jesus Christ our Lord

I have come to realize Jesus was always there but was hiding behind a cloak intentionally by the law and prophets they witness him but in a hidden and prophetic way and then the new testement is the revelation of the law and prophets witness of Jesus Christ so what my point is , is there is a continual play between the law , prophets and gospel and epistles that is “ pattern , prophecy fulfillment “ ,” revelation “ it all works together for a fuller understanding of Jesus Christ our Lord the fulness of God manifest in the gospel father son and holy spirit

i really enjoy your gift here sister the asthetic beauty and colors together with the scriptures you choose to share and highlight in the threads you share your panels always seem a benefit to me something I enjoy about this forum
 

Magenta

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I have come to realize Jesus was always there but was hiding behind a cloak intentionally
by the law and prophets they witness him but in a hidden and prophetic way and then the
new testament is the revelation of the law and prophets witness of Jesus Christ so what my
point is , is there is a continual play between the law , prophets and gospel that is “ pattern,
prophecy fulfillment “ or “ revelation “ it all works together for a fuller understanding of
Jesus Christ our Lord the fullness of God manifest in the gospel father son and holy spirit

Luke 24:27 + 31
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i really enjoy your gift here sister the asthetic beauty and colors together with the scriptures you choose to share
and highlight in the threads you share your panels always seem a benefit to me something I enjoy about this forum
Thank you as always for your very kind words...
 

Pilgrimshope

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Luke 24:27 + 31
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Thank you as always for your very kind words...
“Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: but shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judæa, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.

Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: that Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭26:19-23‬ ‭

pauls heavenly revelation from Jesus made him to understand the law and prophets message in light of Christ being revealed to him !!
 
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I wonder if we will explore outer space?
We are already exploring "outer space" with the Space Station that lurks above the Earth. The question is will they reach another planet or solar system or galaxy. The answer is no, we have did enough polluting the outer space with satellites and other debris! Definitely, God, Jehovah/Yahweh/YHWH will not allow our animalistic selves to destroy anything else. He will pluck us out of the air before he allows us to imbalance anything else out there! Anyway the Aliens (Fallen Angels) don't want us out there either.
 
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There are quite a few amazing places around the world that I will never get
to in this life. Sometime during Messiah's administration, I'd like to catch up
on those places before the Earth is gone forever
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The Earth will never be gone Sir. Psalms 37:29 Meditate on this, two perfect humans were put in a Garden called Eden in Northern/Middle of African there abouts. They were told to procreate, subdue the Earth and extend the Paradise throughout the Earth. Question to you, IF they would have followed their instructions would not the Earth be a Paradise today, and they would be among us? Remember, the sentence of death came to them after their rebellion and disobedience to the Creator, God. Therefore, they would have lived forever. The agenda or purpose will not go unfulfilled. This plan will return during the MESSIAH's administration again! The Earth will become a Paradise or Heaven-like. The righteous or good people who are obedient and submissive to God will inherit it forever. So, you can be a part of this plan, and tour the Earth forever with a 100% perfect body and brain again. That is what the Bible teaches, I have read it for 30 years and researched the contents.