Interpretation of Love is Evil.

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Ramon

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Interpretation of Love is evil. There is a famous question, ''What is love?'' It should have been, ''who is love?''

God is love, and anyone that doesn't know God, does not know love.

For generations people have been trying to redefine love by their own lusts. This is not love, it is idolatry. So one says you can fall in love. Not true. It is an interpretation of love, and it comes from hell.

Anyone who knows of love, knows of God, and knows of his Son, Jesus Christ, who can only give the meaning of love and the cost of it, even his own life.

There was a command left to love God with all your heart mind and soul, and your neighbor as yourself. And then the wicked one comes to twist it with questions:

What is god?
What is love?
Who is my neighbor?

And even further he twists it to have people believe that love is displayed in sex, which is lies told by lustful people. They are all idolatry. And what Satan has promoted is an idea of love which is truly lusts. Instead the slogan should have been, ''Lust sells?'' But as it is true, the wages of sin is death. So Lust sells you death.

God is love. And any interpretation of love is an interpretation of God, and has it's root in idolatry. So when the commandment was left to love one another, it was not meant to be taken with lustful hearts. No good seed can grown in evil ground.

God is righteous, God is good, God is love. Obey him. Obey his Son and you will be taught what love is in truth, and the cost of it.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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jochuhyulo

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1 John 4:8/1 Cor 13...
What is the highest good?
is Love the highest good?
is that highest good God himself?
if God is love, is the highest good a God?


God is love, I think is not to be taken literal
Love is not being, its a essence if God

we interpreted the essence (Love) not God
any interpretation of Love is not evil...

Can Human know Love without interpreting it?
Can Human love his neighbor without God?
what is that Love when a non-religious man share his bread with a hungers?
How do we know that Love?
Only God knows....

Love is difficult to understand, it is known only when it is revealed... it comes into reality when we act....


Sorry if i am not making any sense here :-(
 
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Ramon

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jochuhyulo said:
1 John 4:8/1 Cor 13...
What is the highest good?
is Love the highest good?
is that highest good God himself?
if God is love, is the highest good a God?


God is love, I think is not to be taken literal
Love is not being, its a essence if God

we interpreted the essence (Love) not God
any interpretation of Love is not evil...

Can Human know Love without interpreting it?
Can Human love his neighbor without God?
what is that Love when a non-religious man share his bread with a hungers?
How do we know that Love?
Only God knows....

Love is difficult to understand, it is known only when it is revealed... it comes into reality when we act....


Sorry if i am not making any sense here :-(
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My friend, those are the types of questions. All questions and no answers. This is how Satan deceives people. As in the garden when he asked, ''Did God actually say that you should not eat of all the trees of the garden?''

It is very simple what the command is. But it becomes complex and wicked when men try to interpret it.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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Kooper

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I ask out of curiousity. Not to offend you. There is no need to defend either.

Have you that very same love within yourself?
 
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Jullianna

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Ramon said:
Interpretation of Love is evil. There is a famous question, ''What is love?'' It should have been, ''who is love?''

God is love, and anyone that doesn't know God, does not know love.

For generations people have been trying to redefine love by their own lusts. This is not love, it is idolatry. So one says you can fall in love. Not true. It is an interpretation of love, and it comes from hell.

Anyone who knows of love, knows of God, and knows of his Son, Jesus Christ, who can only give the meaning of love and the cost of it, even his own life.

There was a command left to love God with all your heart mind and soul, and your neighbor as yourself. And then the wicked one comes to twist it with questions:

What is god?
What is love?
Who is my neighbor?

And even further he twists it to have people believe that love is displayed in sex, which is lies told by lustful people. They are all idolatry. And what Satan has promoted is an idea of love which is truly lusts. Instead the slogan should have been, ''Lust sells?'' But as it is true, the wages of sin is death. So Lust sells you death.

God is love. And any interpretation of love is an interpretation of God, and has it's root in idolatry. So when the commandment was left to love one another, it was not meant to be taken with lustful hearts. No good seed can grown in evil ground.

God is righteous, God is good, God is love. Obey him. Obey his Son and you will be taught what love is in truth, and the cost of it.

May Jesus bless you.
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Have you ever read Song of Solomon? Doesn't seem like it from your post, so I'm just asking..
 
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Ramon

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Kooper said:
I ask out of curiousity. Not to offend you. There is no need to defend either.

Have you that very same love within yourself?
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Certainly I need this love to work in me. I need help myself my friend. But I will not interpret love at all. I do know one thing, Jesus Christ was our demonstration of love, and you know what it cost him? HIS LIFE!! I don't think I have this perfect love in me yet, that I would give my own life for people who hate me and mock me and speak evil of me. For people who kill others and offend others. NO!!! I have not arrived at this perfection of love. But indeed, Jesus is working it in me, and I am learning of this love.

I consider myself ignorant concerning the things of God when it comes to very crucial things like this. I don't put any meaning into them, because I know that this world has been trained in the ways of death. So everything I thought I knew I have to put aside, and wait to learn of the truth. I am learning of that truth, and it is very heavy my friend. It almost feels more like a burden. Like a heavy burden. Hate puffed me up and made me like Satan, wanting to be greater than the most high. I was dying in hate. But now love humbled me and made me worthless. So then I was ready to repent.

The end of the perfection of love in the saints always ends in death of the flesh.

May Jesus bless you.
 
Liamson

Liamson

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I can see it now...

"I love you."

"No you don't, only God loves me, because only God is love. You've been deceived by the devil. Your love is Evil and not Love at all."
 
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Kooper

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A decent answer. :) Thank you for sharing. I too, am on a path of finding and understanding the things of Love and God. Kinda hard when the world plays a lot of destractions infront of me.
 
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Ramon

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Liamson said:
I can see it now...

"I love you."

"No you don't, only God loves me, because only God is love. You've been deceived by the devil. Your love is Evil and not Love at all."
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If anyone says they love God, they also love others. God judges the hearts, not words. I wonder what 666 really means.
 
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Ramon

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Kooper said:
A decent answer. :) Thank you for sharing. I too, am on a path of finding and understanding the things of Love and God. Kinda hard when the world plays a lot of destractions infront of me.
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So many distractions it is incredible. It was written that Satan deceives the whole world. Taking that as it is, I had to consider it. THE WHOLE WORLD?''

So who has not been deceived by him? Now I know the answer, that Jesus opens the eyes and ears of people who come to him, and they can clearly see these things. And he teaches them his will. It is very amazing the things I have seen. I know who my enemy is. Not flesh, but evil principalities and powers in battle for the souls of men.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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Ramon

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Kooper said:
A decent answer. :) Thank you for sharing. I too, am on a path of finding and understanding the things of Love and God. Kinda hard when the world plays a lot of destractions infront of me.
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I was getting ready to head off to work and I thought of, ''Perfect in Love'' And I looked up what was written about it:

1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
1John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
1John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
1John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
1John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.

AMEN!!
 
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Kooper

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Liamson said:
I can see it now...

"I love you."

"No you don't, only God loves me, because only God is love. You've been deceived by the devil. Your love is Evil and not Love at all."
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Then how should it be?

(And before you have any thoughts about me, I would like you to know, I already am judging myself unworhty of anything. I only ask out of curiousity.)

It's just only good to grow in undertsanding other people.
 
Liamson

Liamson

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Kooper said:
Then how should it be?

(And before you have any thoughts about me, I would like you to know, I already am judging myself unworhty of anything. I only ask out of curiousity.)

It's just only good to grow in undertsanding other people.
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I'm not particularly in the business of judging.

Every person who has ever existed has had and experiential first had account of love. Everyone knows love, even if it was just a passing glimpse. People in the deepest part of their hearts know what love is and what love is for. 1 Cor 13 talks at length about all the things that love is and all the things love is not. This verse is so significant, not because it is merely the truth (the Bible is full of truth) but, because we can feel exactly how true those words are. It validates everything that we know is good pure and right.

I suppose this is also a shortcoming of the NIV because we have so many meanings that are used by the word Love.

Love as it is used 1 John 4 is not the same context as it is used in the Song of Solomon or in 1 Corinthians 13. I'm not going to jump on the Context horse and ride it off into an etymological sunset but, Love is not a binary construct that neatly fits into our definitions. The words that we choose to describe it, are not the boundaries of its existence nor can it be fully explained within our limited scope of perspective.
 
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Kooper

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*nods*
Huh... Good point.
 
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Jullianna

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Liamson said:
I'm not particularly in the business of judging.

Every person who has ever existed has had and experiential first had account of love. Everyone knows love, even if it was just a passing glimpse. People in the deepest part of their hearts know what love is and what love is for. 1 Cor 13 talks at length about all the things that love is and all the things love is not. This verse is so significant, not because it is merely the truth (the Bible is full of truth) but, because we can feel exactly how true those words are. It validates everything that we know is good pure and right.

I suppose this is also a shortcoming of the NIV because we have so many meanings that are used by the word Love.

Love as it is used 1 John 4 is not the same context as it is used in the Song of Solomon or in 1 Corinthians 13. I'm not going to jump on the Context horse and ride it off into an etymological sunset but, Love is not a binary construct that neatly fits into our definitions. The words that we choose to describe it, are not the boundaries of its existence nor can it be fully explained within our limited scope of perspective.
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There is nothing to add to this...
 
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kayem77

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Ramon said:
Interpretation of Love is evil. There is a famous question, ''What is love?'' It should have been, ''who is love?''

God is love, and anyone that doesn't know God, does not know love.

For generations people have been trying to redefine love by their own lusts. This is not love, it is idolatry. So one says you can fall in love. Not true. It is an interpretation of love, and it comes from hell.

Anyone who knows of love, knows of God, and knows of his Son, Jesus Christ, who can only give the meaning of love and the cost of it, even his own life.

There was a command left to love God with all your heart mind and soul, and your neighbor as yourself. And then the wicked one comes to twist it with questions:

What is god?
What is love?
Who is my neighbor?

And even further he twists it to have people believe that love is displayed in sex, which is lies told by lustful people. They are all idolatry. And what Satan has promoted is an idea of love which is truly lusts. Instead the slogan should have been, ''Lust sells?'' But as it is true, the wages of sin is death. So Lust sells you death.

God is love. And any interpretation of love is an interpretation of God, and has it's root in idolatry. So when the commandment was left to love one another, it was not meant to be taken with lustful hearts. No good seed can grown in evil ground.

God is righteous, God is good, God is love. Obey him. Obey his Son and you will be taught what love is in truth, and the cost of it.

May Jesus bless you.
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Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1Corinthias13:4-7

I agree that God's love is perfect, and when we grow in his love, we are able to love better, to love without self-interest, like in Corinthians. But I wouldn't say falling in love is a lie or that interpreting love is interpreting God. I mean it depends of the person, some say "I love you" just for lust, or interest, but you can show love not only to a bf/gf. You can show love to your parents, your friends, your children,etc. I think we all unconciously know what love is, but don't necessarily show it everyday.

I guess you are trying to say that when we know God, we learn the perfect love, even though we can't love as perfect as Him, because we are flesh no matter what. It's true that when you have a relationship in God, your old love perspective changes, and all your superficial expectations about what "love" is start to disappear. I'm still dealing with that and probably always will. Growing in Spirit makes you more capable of love, receiving and giving, but its a growing we need to do our entire life. It will never be perfect like God's, but it can pretty much overcome selfish interests most of the time.
 
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Jullianna

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Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. I Peter 4:8
 
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Jullianna

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No, it's not not always easy :)
 
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enoch19

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Weird enough God is love I agree with Ramon about God being love in the purest form, how can you until you give it away. I've seen what people are capible of, there interpretation of love is perverted with idolatry. I'll show an example, for instance I were to go after a woman that looked nice and was a woman of this world and not walking in love with Jesus, I know from that point I would be wrong. I would be following my heart. I know one thing when it comes to love I will wait on God and do it his way. I would rather be without love of that sort than compromise my temple (my body) with misleading lust.
It is in the book, all the answers concerning it is right there.
 
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