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Eli1

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Last I knew it was accepted there are 11 dimensions coexisting, and the Creator operates in the Quantum Realm where there is no space or time to the point linear time itself is thought to be a construct for us just as we were created, to please the Father.

I understand the hindu god statue out front is still there and all hindu "gods" are indeed demonic.
blessings
I just saw this and I can’t believe this topic is in the conspiracy forum (well maybe I do) but the double slit experiment shows that an atom itself can be “conscious” when observed by another bunch of atoms (us).
All this glorifies God to me when I see this engineering marvel called the universe, existence and most of all us.
 

Dude653

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I just saw this and I can’t believe this topic is in the conspiracy forum (well maybe I do) but the double slit experiment shows that an atom itself can be “conscious” when observed by another bunch of atoms (us).
All this glorifies God to me when I see this engineering marvel called the universe, existence and most of all us.
People have a superstitious fear of science and that's why in my opinion America will eventually lose its position as a world superpower as the rest of the world progresses in America's stagnates
 

Eli1

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People have a superstitious fear of science and that's why in my opinion America will eventually lose its position as a world superpower as the rest of the world progresses in America's stagnates
‘You know? I know you don’t believe anymore but “losing” or “winning” is something that I consider part of God’s plan.
I feel blessed enough to be able to see His work in detail.
 

Dude653

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‘You know? I know you don’t believe anymore but “losing” or “winning” is something that I consider part of God’s plan.
I feel blessed enough to be able to see His work in detail.
People are saying all sorts of insane stuff like the particle accelerator is going to open a gate to hell or some and demons are such nonsense.
If everyone had this mentality that everything scientific is evil and satanic, we would still be in the Dark ages
 

Eli1

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People are saying all sorts of insane stuff like the particle accelerator is going to open a gate to hell or some and demons are such nonsense.
If everyone had this mentality that everything scientific is evil and satanic, we would still be in the Dark ages
Okay okay that’s like talking to flat earthers. They’re amusing that’s all.
This isn’t just in USA by the way, it’s worldwide . You will always have your flat earthers telling you outrageous things.
 

Dude653

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And certain individuals on this forum are being condescending when I'm actually trying to have a constructive conversation.
While it's true that science produced a bomb that leveled two major cities, the same science can power a nuclear submarine for 30 years
So we don't just throw up our hands and say okay someone did something bad with science so we're going to stop doing science forever
 

Eli1

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And certain individuals on this forum are being condescending when I'm actually trying to have a constructive conversation.
While it's true that science produced a bomb that leveled two major cities, the same science can power a nuclear submarine for 30 years
So we don't just throw up our hands and say okay someone did something bad with science so we're going to stop doing science forever
Okay so you need to get over the ‘Condensending’ part in humans.
For a believer this is done by having peace in God.
For a non-believer, maybe pet your cat or listen to some music or do whatever you like so you’re not bothered when people don’t agree with you.
 

Dude653

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Okay so you need to get over the ‘Condensending’ part in humans.
For a believer this is done by having peace in God.
For a non-believer, maybe pet your cat or listen to some music or do whatever you like so you’re not bothered when people don’t agree with you.
Main reason I bought heads was pretty much everyone here are I'm not an anti-vaxxer,
I don't believe everything scientific is satanic and I believe law should be passed on the Constitution instead of religious text
 

ZNP

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Here it is!!!:



Wanna see it again??
Congratulations, you have latched onto Dude's straw man argument. The only one claiming we can't study particle physics is Dude who then condemns that position.
 

ZNP

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The Bible never said you can't touch the tree of the Knowledge of good and evil, it simply said you can't eat from that tree because in the day you eat thereof you will die.

According to the Bible a thousand years is as a day and Adam died before reaching a thousand years.

Show me any time in history when man took in a scientific approach to being like God that didn't lead to death?

TNT was hailed as a great invention because it allowed us to do so much with mining and building, but of course it led to us killing each other.

Same with research into atomic energy.

The guy who saved the most people in human history is Fritz Haber, the father of chemical warfare. He invented a process to make nitrogen fertilizer he also made Chemical weapons used in warfare including Zyklon B.

The same can be true of every scientific advancement.
 

Eli1

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Main reason I bought heads was pretty much everyone here are I'm not an anti-vaxxer,
I don't believe everything scientific is satanic and I believe law should be passed on the Constitution instead of religious text
I don’t believe everything scientific is satanic either, and like you’ve said before some people who are satanic just do it to troll Christians

Point is: find peace in the absurdities of the modern world.
 

Dude653

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The Bible never said you can't touch the tree of the Knowledge of good and evil, it simply said you can't eat from that tree because in the day you eat thereof you will die.

According to the Bible a thousand years is as a day and Adam died before reaching a thousand years.

Show me any time in history when man took in a scientific approach to being like God that didn't lead to death?

TNT was hailed as a great invention because it allowed us to do so much with mining and building, but of course it led to us killing each other.

Same with research into atomic energy.

The guy who saved the most people in human history is Fritz Haber, the father of chemical warfare. He invented a process to make nitrogen fertilizer he also made Chemical weapons used in warfare including Zyklon B.

The same can be true of every scientific advancement.
All the hadron collider is doing is studying the behavior of subatomic particles
You know like when you were a kid and you used to like to take stuff apart to see how it works
Humans are naturally curious
 

ZNP

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All the hadron collider is doing is studying the behavior of subatomic particles
You know like when you were a kid and you used to like to take stuff apart to see how it works
Humans are naturally curious
Yes, I know, just like playing God.
 

Dude653

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That makes about as much sense as saying that God gave birds wings but they're supposed to walk everywhere because using wings that God gave them would be playing God
Remember when people used to think that Jesus were caused by demon possession until they figured out that germs are a thing?
Is germs theory playing God too?
 

ZNP

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How though?
How is it playing God too study subatomic particles?
Seriously? Do you even understand what the purpose of the particle collider is and why they want to know what the building blocks of the universe are?

When we understood atoms and figured out how to put them together it revolutionized the world. We can now completely manipulate our surroundings. For example, a fan blade on a jet engine is lifting the weight of a small car on each of those wafer thin blades. In order to do that you need to make the entire blade a single crystal otherwise it would crack. That involves all kinds of amazing Chemistry, but in addition to that the temperature that the jet engine runs at is higher than the melting temperature of the metal in those fan blades. That is why many concluded jet engines were impossible and would never be made. You can bet when they actually did make a working jet engine they thought they were god.

Likewise that was the reaction of the scientists when they first made an atomic bomb.

We also thought that way when we made fertilizer and pesticide to double, triple and quadruple the agricultural production from a field.

Others have claimed that when you see technology you don't understand it looks like magic. Think of what people must have thought concerning radio or TV or radar or sonar or stealth fighters or satellite telecommunications or spaceships going to the moon.
 

ZNP

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That makes about as much sense as saying that God gave birds wings but they're supposed to walk everywhere because using wings that God gave them would be playing God
Remember when people used to think that Jesus were caused by demon possession until they figured out that germs are a thing?
Is germs theory playing God too?
No, you refuse to listen to what I am saying and instead grossly distorting it. I am a Geologist, I have been a scientist for 40+ years.

We are talking about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that would make someone to be "like" god.

We are not talking about studying the creation and the creator.

We are talking about Jafar, the sorcerer in the movie Aladdin who wanted to control the power of the universe so he could be the most powerful sorcerer in the world.