Why is the church so accepting of divorce and remarriage?

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ResidentAlien

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But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion....GOD has the solution, but keeps blocking the way.
This seems to be your obsession, it's not mine. I don't have anything more to contribute. I hope and pray you'll find the answers you need.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion....GOD has the solution, but keeps blocking the way.
You are blocking the way, not God.
 

Blade

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I get really annoyed at Christians who tell singles, even thinking about sex is a sin, YET, they have no problem with people getting married 2,3,4,5 times. Divorce and remarriage seems to be acceptable, but a single person even thinking about sex is a sin. Which is worse?
Not sure where you get this "tell singles". Its not what people say we know this its what Gods word says and it applies to all married not married. Again its not what others think or say its what Gods word says. So knowing what God said and not doing it is a sin period. No one sins against me.
 

Ilive4Jesus

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I know, that was the reason they announced no dating in the Singles group. Their married friends were now part of the group.
Are you still involved with this church/group?
 

Ilive4Jesus

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But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion....GOD has the solution, but keeps blocking the way.
oh good Lord!
John, is this another one of your "god controls everything" rants?
Are you somehow trying to imply that you have uncontrollable urges for sex and so should get married (the solution that God has for it) , but since God controls everyone and everything that he is somehow keeping/blocking you from doing so?
The only thing blocking you from finding a good woman to marry is you.
 

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oh good Lord!
John, is this another one of your "god controls everything" rants?
Are you somehow trying to imply that you have uncontrollable urges for sex and so should get married (the solution that God has for it) , but since God controls everyone and everything that he is somehow keeping/blocking you from doing so?
The only thing blocking you from finding a good woman to marry is you.
Paul is clear. Some people have such a strong desire they need to be married. No other way for them to control the desire. Unfortunately many Christians and church try and put everyone in the same group.
 

JohnB

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Are you still involved with this church/group?
I got out of there when they started having their married friends in the group and announced to the group they were not a dating group. They don't approve of dating. At that point I left and never went back.
 

JohnB

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Not sure where you get this "tell singles". Its not what people say we know this its what Gods word says and it applies to all married not married. Again its not what others think or say its what Gods word says. So knowing what God said and not doing it is a sin period. No one sins against me.
I agree, unfortunately, many churches and pastors have their own way of think about what GOD wants. Some people take their position of power to rule over a group.
 

JohnB

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The tragic thing here is that you think it does.
Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits. Song of Solomon 4:16
I would cause thee to drink of spiced wine of the juice of my pomegranate. Song of Solomon 8:2


Do some research on these verses.
 

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You are blocking the way, not God.
As one friend said about my dating....John, I have never seen anyone put so much into dating and coming up with nothing. I was doing online dating, involved in singles group, even did Speed Dating, and clubbing.
 

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But as to the point of this thread. We have an epidemic of divorce in our culture and the "church" numbers aren't very different.
The plain fact is that divorce out side of a just cause is indeed sin; no less sinful than any of the sexual sins. Divorce is a horrific occurrence even when it is justified, so much more so when it is done in sin. The emotional and spiritual damage that is done to the divorced is bad enough, but the harm done to families, children is devastating. Our culture and many "churches" are far to cavalier about it.
I agree and the church seems to do a horrible job at teaching people to make wise choices on who to marry. A lot of that happened with the purity movement. In the early 80's the Singles group was about dating. The Pastor at the time did a study, 20 things to look for while dating. Some were, "Ask your friends and family what they think of who you're dating. They have a different perspective" What do you share in common, outside the church. It was 20 commonsense points, none of this being pure and holy before marriage.
 

Lanolin

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I think it's something the OP has to get over.

churches don't tell people who they can or can't marry as far as I know.
If you are under 18, usually its your parents influencing you. After 18 you can marry whoever you want. If you marry someone your parents don't approve of, then its really on you to deal with that.

If your parents are dead, or both parents are dead, nobody is going to care that much. Honestly.
 

Lanolin

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When Paul was writing about abstaining from fornication in the NT it was something that people could actually choose NOT to do.

If you really can't, something is wrong! I don't recall the apostles ever worry about finding spouses or complaining about their sex lives. Some were actually already married eg Peter.

They focused on Jesus and spreading the gospel not on their private parts. Because they knew how to handle and keep their own bodies. If you can't do this then you probably need to learn how.

Not go to a prostitute.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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As one friend said about my dating....John, I have never seen anyone put so much into dating and coming up with nothing. I was doing online dating, involved in singles group, even did Speed Dating, and clubbing.
Its been my observation through out the years, that folks who try so hard never do succeed. The one who succeeds is the one who leads an interresting life and meets people through the things they are involved in, and the people they meet while engaging in life.
I would go so far as to say that according to what i have witnessed all those dating events and programs actually hinder success.
I know people who finally gave up on all that dating stuff and got busy living life and met some one and got married.
Those dating apps, and programs, and scenes, take people out of the context of their life and turns them into monchromatic, desparate, sex hounds, with no social skills or personal life to offer someone to be a part of. Turns men into simps and women into revolving doors, and destroys confidence which aint attractive.
What makes men attractive is having a life, and confidently doing his thing.
Married men who arent looking have to tell women we are married all the time, and ya dont have to be traditionally handsome; just doing life, buying auto parts, picking up a belt for the lawn mower, stopping for breakfast on the way to hardware store, or sporting goods shop, at the thing you do car show, fishing, hunting, sport shooting, archery range, Ren fest, rodeo, horse show, trail riding, at the mudpark or van fest, or motorcycle ralley, music jam sessions, music shops, and the other million billion things that folks get up to, in just living their life.
 

ResidentAlien

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I'm not married and have no interest in dating or getting married. I used to try very hard to date and find someone to marry and it never happened. Now that I'm not trying I have to beat them off with a stick, seriously. I'm not bragging; I'm not really even that good looking. I'm just saying Locoponydirtman is right.
 
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As one friend said about my dating....John, I have never seen anyone put so much into dating and coming up with nothing. I was doing online dating, involved in singles group, even did Speed Dating, and clubbing.
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Ilive4Jesus

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I got out of there when they started having their married friends in the group and announced to the group they were not a dating group. They don't approve of dating. At that point I left and never went back.
okay, but how long ago was this? Because the way you talk about it sounds like it has been recent.
 

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Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits. Song of Solomon 4:16
I would cause thee to drink of spiced wine of the juice of my pomegranate. Song of Solomon 8:2


Do some research on these verses.
Sorry I am not a fan of Mark Driscoll and his ridiculous eisegesis.

“Jesus Christ commands you to do this.” he states in his sermon.

No one wonder the church is such a mess with such idiocy at the pulpit.

Resting in the shade and eating fruit could just as easily, and more readily, be read as a symbol of comfort, peace, and joy.

Driscoll has no clue, but an obvious agenda, too bad you are caught up in it.
 

Lanolin

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i would just read the Bible and not attend any churches for a while. If this has happened at the churches youve been to. Obviosly, wolves in sheeps clothing have gotten into those churches youve attended.