Whom Did Christ Die For?

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Everlasting-Grace

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thomas64 said:
Oh I did respond to your whosoever will may come didn't I. No one can come unless the father draws him. Who runs? You ran away pretty quickly from a discussion where you tried to overturn one of the most basic biblical tenets didn't you
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Everlasting-Grace said:
what thread?

WHy are you so afraid my friend? WHy are you running from a passage of scripture and now blame shifting?
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Wow. So now as in yesterday the pride comes through. with your buddy and the anger

Did Jesus lie when he said his will was not fulfilled because they were not willing? Yes or no.

and for your accusation. Prove it. what thread did I leave

You think you attacking me will change my mind? Get real my friend..
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
what thread?

WHy are you so afraid my friend? WHy are you running from a passage of scripture and now blame shifting?
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What thread? lol. I answered your question about whosoever will may come. Your turn, one at a time, my quotes from rom ch9 please
 
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thomas64 said:
What thread? lol. I answered your question about whosoever will may come. Your turn, one at a time, my quotes from rom ch9 please
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You have never answered what Jesus said.

did Jesus lie? or did he not?

Did Jerusalem do what God willed or did they not?

Its an easy question. Your deflecting
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
You accused me of leaving a thread. Back up your accusation.. if you can
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Anyone can go to the thread ''Christ kept the law of Moses'' and see for themselves I responded to your post with two of my own. No response from you. It is proved!!!!
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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Nah,

I did not run from that, I actually agree with you there. And could not add anymore to what you said..
 
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thomas64

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Everlasting-Grace said:
Nah,

I did not run from that, I actually agree with you there. And could not add anymore to what you said..
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Really? So you agree the moral law has not been abolished it is now in the hearts and minds of believers. It is not just the law of love in the heart and mind but the commandments written in the moral law, wonderful(the fourth one os fulfilled seven days a week before i am misunderstood)
 
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Bob-Carabbio said:
Word games
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Not word games but Gospel truth. It seems that too many prefer half the Gospel and ignore the rest of it. If it was God the Father who sent His Only Begotten Son into the world to die for our sins, it follows that the Father would draw all men to Christ. But all would not repent and believe. Here is further confirmation from the lips of Christ Himself: For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (John 3:17) So then why would the Father not draw all men to Him?
 
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thomas64 said:
Really? So you agree the moral law has not been abolished it is now in the hearts and minds of believers. It is not just the law of love in the heart and mind but the commandments written in the moral law, wonderful(the fourth one os fulfilled seven days a week before i am misunderstood)
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God said he would write the law in our hearts.

But that does not mean following the law is the means to sanctification

Jesus said the law of love fulfills the law
 
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Everlasting grace must have told me the truth when he previously told me he changes his mind sometimes on the internet, for previously he stated only one law was in the heart and mind, the law of love, now he obviously feels differently as he has stated he agrees with everything I wrote
 
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thomas64 said:
Everlasting grace must have told me the truth when he previously told me he changes his mind sometimes on the internet, for previously he stated only one law was in the heart and mind, the law of love, now he obviously feels differently as he has stated he agrees with everything I wrote
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Everlasting-Grace said:
lol,

How did the gentiles know it was wrong. they did not have the law?

How did noah or abraham or people know it was wrong. before the law was given

I am not sure why you can not hear me..I hope the lord makes it clear to you..
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Not sure where I said what you accuse me of

did I say the law of love was written on their hearts before the law?
 
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Notice how he still is not responding to what Jesus said about Jerusalem. and how they WILLFULLY rejected his will
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Not sure where I said what you accuse me of

did I say the law of love was written on their hearts before the law?
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You said only the law of love was written on our hearts. Just try and be honest, put the ego to one side, you didnt really change your mind that quickly did you, it was an excuse not to look as though you did what you accuse me of in running away. So you said you agreed with everything I wrote, which is a bit of a fib really isnt it, unless you changed your mind really quickly
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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thomas64 said:
You said only the law of love was written on our hearts. Just try and be honest, put the ego to one side, you didnt really change your mind that quickly did you, it was an excuse not look as though you did what you accuse me of in running away. So you said you agreed with everything I wrote, which is a bit of a fib really isnt it, unless you changed your mind really quickly
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Or maybe you could prove your accusation by showing the post.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Notice how he still is not responding to what Jesus said about Jerusalem. and how they WILLFULLY rejected his will
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As for running away. In the end you responded to Eph 1:11. I then responded to your point about whosoever will may come. So it is my turn to quote the next scripture, rom 9 which you refuse to address
 
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thomas64 said:
Lets see how honest you really are. Have you stated on this website only the law of love is in our hearts and minds?
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I have stated that we are to look to the law of love. That that is how we obey the law as Jesus said.
 
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thomas64 said:
As for running away. In the end you responded to Eph 1:11. I then responded to your point about whosoever will may come. So it is my turn to quote the next scripture, rom 9 which you refuse to address
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I never asked you about whoever will may Come

I asked you about Jerusalem. And Jesus saying they were not willing to do what he willed. he wanted. so he could not do what he willed.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Notice how he still is not responding to what Jesus said about Jerusalem. and how they WILLFULLY rejected his will
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What is the big surprise that the Jews rejected Christ. Since the time a person is able to think clearly they have been rejecting God. The wonder is that God would commend His love for us when we were in this estate.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
I have stated that we are to look to the law of love. That that is how we obey the law as Jesus said.
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Its not much good studying like mad if you cannot bring yourself to honestly address the question asked. You know you have previously stated only the law of love is in believers hearts. Im not going to scroll through all your posts to find it, so I guess if you want to deny the truth you can
 
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