CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

[Nehemiah6]

There is a visible kingdom. It is spiritual in nature and is in the hearts of believers, but it is manifest. What do you suppose Asbury exemplifies?

Since what is in human hearts is NOT visible, there is no visible Kingdom on earth.

Asbury exemplifies the Church to some degree, but again revival begins with repentance. This means that there will need to be some serious evidence of repentance among those who have gone off the rails. I have read a report this morning that people from other denominations (including Catholics) have gotten involved. So for Catholics, repentance would be a TOTAL REPUDIATION of the Catholic Church, since it is full of false teachings. For Anglicans it would mean a TOTAL REPUDIATION of the apostate Anglican Church. So unless we see and hear that this is really what is happening, the term "revival" will need to be reserved until there is actual evidence of rejection of all false teachings and practices, and a return to biblical Christianity and the true and full Gospel of God.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

So where is the Roman empire today?

dead.. it suffered as fatal womb.. In geographical reference, it would be Europe. which if it came together would be the greatest superpower on earth.. thats where the ten kings come in.. or ten toes.. Now specifically how it will happen? Scripture does not say,. we can only guess.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

There is a visible kingdom. It is spiritual in nature and is in the hearts of believers, but it is manifest. What do you suppose Asbury exemplifies?

a church in flux.. which has no ruler..

do you think Satan has been bound for 2000 Years?

 

[Cameron143]

Since what is in human hearts is NOT visible, there is no visible Kingdom on earth.

Asbury exemplifies the Church to some degree, but again revival begins with repentance. This means that there will need to be some serious evidence of repentance among those who have gone off the rails. I have read a report this morning that people from other denominations (including Catholics) have gotten involved. So for Catholics, repentance would be a TOTAL REPUDIATION of the Catholic Church, since it is full of false teachings. For Anglicans it would mean a TOTAL REPUDIATION of the apostate Anglican Church. So unless we see and hear that this is really what is happening, the term "revival" will need to be reserved until there is actual evidence of rejection of all false teachings and practices, and a return to biblical Christianity and the true and full Gospel of God.

The church itself is the physical manifestation of the kingdom. Because it doesn't have physical borders doesn't mean it's not a kingdom.
It started with a small group but soon added 3000 in 1 day. It has been growing ever since. It will continue to grow until Jesus returns. I expect by that time that it will be influencing most if not all the kingdoms that exist at that time, whatever that may look like then.

 

[Cameron143]

a church in flux.. which has no ruler..

do you think Satan has been bound for 2000 Years?

Jesus is the leader.

 

[Cameron143]

dead.. it suffered as fatal womb.. In geographical reference, it would be Europe. which if it came together would be the greatest superpower on earth.. thats where the ten kings come in.. or ten toes.. Now specifically how it will happen? Scripture does not say,. we can only guess.

That's my point. Daniel 2 has God beginning an eternal kingdom during the time of the Roman empire.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Jesus is the leader.

Youy look at the world today and think Jesus is the leader? Even the church is so split with no end in site..

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

That's my point. Daniel 2 has God beginning an eternal kingdom during the time of the Roman empire.

Yes, as did Dan 7. Dan 2 also showed rome split into two

the first legs of iron (jesus day) the second is the toes of iron and clay. which have not been fulfilled yet.. Nothing resembling that kingdom has been seen.

 

[Cameron143]

Youy look at the world today and think Jesus is the leader? Even the church is so split with no end in site..

It's still early. It will improve.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

It's still early. It will improve.

its getting worse, after 2000 years. and scripture says it will get worse. not better..

 

[Cameron143]

Yes, as did Dan 7. Dan 2 also showed rome split into two

the first legs of iron (jesus day) the second is the toes of iron and clay. which have not been fulfilled yet.. Nothing resembling that kingdom has been seen.

Every time someone gets saved they leave the kingdom of darkness and join the kingdom of light. God is patient. It will continue to get better.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

still have the falling away, which is yet to come before the dreadful day of the lord.

Do you believe satan is bound?

 

[Cameron143]

its getting worse, after 2000 years. and scripture says it will get worse. not better..

Really? Are there more Christians today than ever before? Do women deliver children with less pain due to advances in medicine? Do you have to labor and sweat as people in the past?
Jesus is patiently and methodically destroying the works of the devil just as He said.

 

[Cameron143]

still have the falling away, which is yet to come before the dreadful day of the lord.

Do you believe satan is bound?

He was bound at the cross. That's why the gates of hell cannot prevail against the church. Jesus is reaching over the gates and bringing people in darkness into the light.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

well if peace is taken away from the earth. that alone tells you it is after the first 3.5 years..

No, that's a common misconception.


The MID-point is at the "5th Trumpet / 1st Woe unto the earth" (Rev8:13... and other verses).

What takes place BEFORE the "5th Trumpet / 1st Woe unto the earth" is "SEALS #1-7" (including Seal #2 under discussion), as well as "Trumpets #1-4"... Thus, Seal #2 CANNOT be occurring AFTER the AOD point in the chronology (i.e. the MID-point).

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

@Everlasting-Grace , Where Revelation 2:26-27 says, "26And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father"... do you see this as more than Jesus alone ruling [/shepherding] with a rod [/sceptre] of iron [/righteousness and strength (Heb1:8)]" but others ruling WITH HIM as well?? (1Cor6:2-3; Rev20:4b, etc), or no?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Really? Are there more Christians today than ever before? Do women deliver children with less pain due to advances in medicine? Do you have to labor and sweat as people in the past?
Jesus is patiently and methodically destroying the works of the devil just as He said.

The church is falling away.. Most of what we call the church does not even hold fast to the truth anymore..

We are not talking about advances in medicine. We are talking the peace that God promised when Christ returned

I am talking about days like this about the coming messiah or rod of Jesse

Is 11:
He shall strike the earth with the rod of His mouth,
And with the breath of His lips He shall slay the wicked.
5 Righteousness shall be the belt of His loins,
And faithfulness the belt of His waist.
6 “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,
The leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
The calf and the young lion and the fatling together;
And a little child shall lead them.
7 The cow and the bear shall graze;
Their young ones shall lie down together;
And the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole,
And the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
As the waters cover the sea.
10


When have these things happened

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

He was bound at the cross. That's why the gates of hell cannot prevail against the church. Jesus is reaching over the gates and bringing people in darkness into the light.

Its says satan will be bound so he can not decieve the nations anymore.. Can you look at the last 2000 years and say Satan is not still decieving the nations

The gates of hell has never prevailed.. Gods word has been since adam entering satans domain and rescuing people from his grip.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

No, that's a common misconception.


The MID-point is at the "5th Trumpet / 1st Woe unto the earth" (Rev8:13... and other verses).

What takes place BEFORE the "5th Trumpet / 1st Woe unto the earth" is "SEALS #1-7" (including Seal #2 under discussion), as well as "Trumpets #1-4"... Thus, Seal #2 CANNOT be occurring AFTER the AOD point in the chronology (i.e. the MID-point).

You’re giving me your interpr3etation. I am not finding anything in your words a that woudl lead me to change my view.

I believe all those things happen after the 3.5 years.. you have not shown me otherwise

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

@Everlasting-Grace , Where Revelation 2:26-27 says, "26And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father"... do you see this as more than Jesus alone ruling [/shepherding] with a rod [/sceptre] of iron [/righteousness and strength (Heb1:8)]" but others ruling WITH HIM as well?? (1Cor6:2-3; Rev20:4b, etc), or no?

Yes, paul said we will rule with him