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Bob-Carabbio

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Good, that means that I won't have to stock up on toilet paper and bottled water. And batteries. Wait. No, don't have anything to put the batteries in. I was trending towards 'C's'.
Back during the Charismatic Outpouring ('66 - '78 or so) The "End of the age" was felt to be immanent. So some enterprising entrepreneurs started selling dehydrated "tribulation food" in 3-1/2, and 7 year packages depending on whether you were "post-trib", or "mid-trib". They suggested, of course that EVERYBODY shold buy the 7-year supply - in case their "theology" was inaccurate.

What they DIDN'T provide was a shotgun, and ammunition to shoot your starving Christian neighbors with, when they tried to get your supplies.
 

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Biden Showed Him!

BREAKING: HE'S HIDING IN HIS BUNKER

Hard to know if this is true or propaganda.
Not so hard at all!!! if it's on the INTERNET, it doesn't mean SPIT.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Once my new thread is approved, I will be posting there when build up for war against china articles appear. Each war on each front is worthy of it's own thread in order to keep things organized and prevent confusion.

 

ZNP

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Once my new thread is approved, I will be posting there when build up for war against china articles appear. Each war on each front is worthy of it's own thread in order to keep things organized and prevent confusion.

China and Russia is agreed on maintaining their strategic resolve.

Maintain means to continue doing what they have already begun.

Resolve means to stand strong against pressure.

Strategic indicates a plan.

BRICS -- this is a strategy to control the world's reserve currency, that is a direct attack on the US hegemony.

Ukraine -- this is a strategy to push back against NATO's hegemony.

Taiwan -- this is a strategy to take control of the high tech realm for computers, AI, and sophisticated weapons. Challenging the US preeminence.

Russia has claimed they have evidence of the US committing crimes with bioweapons labs in Ukraine, again a direct challenge to US hegemony and since the US has blamed China for the "China virus" something that both China and Russia could agree on pursuing as part of their plan.

Everything that Russia and China have been doing has been designed to replace the US as the top dog. That is their strategic plan. Russia is not going to win in Ukraine with a conventional war. We can bleed them out. Our Himars missiles are very effective against tanks. The US plan includes Ukraine being reduced to rubble so that our corporations can make a fortune rebuilding it. If they are agreeing to maintain strategic resolve they must be well aware of the cost they have spent so far and how heavily invested the US is and NATO is.

Russia cannot use Nukes on NATO while ignoring the US.

To be fair seizing control of Taiwan will be harder than Ukraine. It is relatively easy to roll into Ukraine and since they don't have a mutual defense treaty NATO and the US have been tip toeing around for the last year.

In contrast a Mountainous tropical island that has been fortified over the last forty years and does have a defense treaty with both the US and Japan would be a much tougher target. I was under the impression that Taiwan could defeat any invasion up until a year ago when I learned that China has a tunnel that will take their soldiers under the Taiwan strait to Taiwan. This definitely changes the equation, but I still wonder if China survives. Taiwan can inflict crippling attacks on Mainland. Japan has one of the most modern navies in the world and they are proven in battle.

I get it that they must be planning a Pearl harbor like attack on the US that will be very severe. Still I don't really see how China and Russia survive the retaliatory strike.
 

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Here's another one I will post here first.
Men, I would take this seriously.


misleading. He didn't say 2025, he said in the next two years. That expresses certainty in it happening while hedging on the timing
 

HealthAndHappiness

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misleading. He didn't say 2025, he said in the next two years. That expresses certainty in it happening while hedging on the timing
Regardless of how the communist phrased his public statement, he will lie to achieve his objective. I take everything Putin and Pooh says with a grain or two of salt.
However I will take anything they say seriously as I have personal threats upon my own life. You just don't know what a murderer is going to attempt. These guys are directed by mighty devils.

Second reason, we have a report of troops starting to move into Taiwan. So far it looks perhaps to be inconsequential. However, I take it seriously as I did when spec4CS entered the Ukraine military for their training and Intel. Now it's billion$ plus a full out NATO/ US operation.
Putin made a speech covered by a corespondent that I'll post when there's time to find it again later.
 

ZNP

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Regardless of how the communist phrased his public statement, he will lie to achieve his objective. I take everything Putin and Pooh says with a grain or two of salt.
However I will take anything they say seriously as I have personal threats upon my own life. You just don't know what a murderer is going to attempt. These guys are directed by mighty devils.

Second reason, we have a report of troops starting to move into Taiwan. So far it looks perhaps to be inconsequential. However, I take it seriously as I did when spec4CS entered the Ukraine military for their training and Intel. Now it's billion$ plus a full out NATO/ US operation.
Putin made a speech covered by a corespondent that I'll post when there's time to find it again later.
Taiwan is the trigger. Ukraine is a diversion to take our eyes off of Taiwan, when China invades it will divert our attention and that is when we will be hit with the surprise attack on US soil.

Also the guy I was referring to was a US general and we were quoting what he told US soldiers verbatim.
 

ZNP

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Russia has lost quite a few men in this war. China has too many men and not enough women. I wonder if they have made a pact between them to solve this problem.
 

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Let's see......7.3 MILLION subscribers on a single YouTube channel.

Do you prefer CNN, MSNBC, or ABC instead?
Personally, I don't trust ANY OF THEM as far as I could throw them. And LEAST of all, anything that comes out of the White House.
We live in a world of LIARS, and Spinners.
 

ZNP

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Personally, I don't trust ANY OF THEM as far as I could throw them. And LEAST of all, anything that comes out of the White House.
We live in a world of LIARS, and Spinners.
Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Even liars expose what is in their heart.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Taiwan is the trigger. Ukraine is a diversion to take our eyes off of Taiwan, when China invades it will divert our attention and that is when we will be hit with the surprise attack on US soil.

Also the guy I was referring to was a US general and we were quoting what he told US soldiers verbatim.
Oh ok, my mistake.
I was thinking it was the previous post of mine with Xi and Putin.
It seems like the time they would invade Taiwan and/or any strategic Asian country would be anytime before the next election....Amewika weak, China strong.
One correspondent noticed Mandarin speaking young men crossing the Texas border in large numbers.
 

ZNP

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Oh ok, my mistake.
I was thinking it was the previous post of mine with Xi and Putin.
It seems like the time they would invade Taiwan and/or any strategic Asian country would be anytime before the next election....Amewika weak, China strong.
One correspondent noticed Mandarin speaking young men crossing the Texas border in large numbers.
Yes, it seems they would certainly want to do this prior to the election lest they wind up attacking the US with Trump as president. Also, since the campaign for President has officially begun it does create a slightly better opportunity for an attack.
 

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The main argument to support Ukraine

The argument is that if we don't stop the spread of Russia into Ukraine, next thing we know they will go into Poland or some other NATO country.

Let's consider that.

1. Russia has a GDP 8 times that of Ukraine, so they are significantly more powerful than Ukraine. However, Poland has a GDP three times that of Ukraine and they also have article 5 of NATO. The EU has a GDP ten times that of Russia and 80 times that of Ukraine. And that doesn't even count the US. The US and EU combined have a GDP that is about 200 times the size of Ukraine. Is it really a plausible threat that Russia would attack NATO?

2. Why do you think Russia has such a formidable nuclear armament? That is a deterrent, those bombs say don't attack us or we'll destroy you. Russia clearly feels intimidated by the US and EU.

So this idea that NATO feels threatened comes across as not believable to me.

So let's ask a question, do we really want to start a nuclear war over Ukraine? NATO is not threatened, Europe is not threatened, I certainly don't see how US national security is threatened.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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The main argument to support Ukraine

The argument is that if we don't stop the spread of Russia into Ukraine, next thing we know they will go into Poland or some other NATO country.

Let's consider that.

1. Russia has a GDP 8 times that of Ukraine, so they are significantly more powerful than Ukraine. However, Poland has a GDP three times that of Ukraine and they also have article 5 of NATO. The EU has a GDP ten times that of Russia and 80 times that of Ukraine. And that doesn't even count the US. The US and EU combined have a GDP that is about 200 times the size of Ukraine. Is it really a plausible threat that Russia would attack NATO?

2. Why do you think Russia has such a formidable nuclear armament? That is a deterrent, those bombs say don't attack us or we'll destroy you. Russia clearly feels intimidated by the US and EU.

So this idea that NATO feels threatened comes across as not believable to me.

So let's ask a question, do we really want to start a nuclear war over Ukraine? NATO is not threatened, Europe is not threatened, I certainly don't see how US national security is threatened.
It seems as if the enemies who placed biten and Zelenko the homo actor and dancer in office are luring the communist powers into these positions. The generals speech might just be for show to instigate a move. Then again when there's a five star admiral who is given the role as a health secretary, it's bait to those commi nations to say, skies the limit! Let's conquer whoever we want, because the biggest deterants are worse than a western sit com.