"What must I do to be saved?"

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ForestGreenCook

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Wow. God has failed you that many times?

Saved, according to Greek, means "delivered". A child of God is delivered many times, as he sojourns here in this world, by his good works.

Your failure to acknowledge this, tends to make the scriptures to teach eternal salvation (deliverance) is accomplished by ones good works.
 

ForestGreenCook

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No. If you are genuinely a child of God, you cannot simply "walk away". There are very serious consequences. So give it a try and see what happens.

Also, there are a couple of posters in this thread simply trying to muddy the waters. Everyone should "walk away" from such people. As Paul says "from such turn away".

The false doctrine that Paul is teaching to turn away from is the doctrine that you are teaching.
 

ForestGreenCook

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No. If you are genuinely a child of God, you cannot simply "walk away". There are very serious consequences. So give it a try and see what happens.

Also, there are a couple of posters in this thread simply trying to muddy the waters. Everyone should "walk away" from such people. As Paul says "from such turn away".

Every time that you commit a sin, you are walking away from God's fellowship, until you repent, because God will not fellowship sin, even turning his back on his only begotten Son, during the three hours of darkness, on the cross, as he bore the sins of those that God gave him
 

Nehemiah6

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The false doctrine that Paul is teaching to turn away from is the doctrine that you are teaching.
Well since most Christians reject the false gospel of Five Point Calvinism, it would seem that that Calvinism is what Paul called "another gospel" in Galatians (among others). He warned the Galatians to reject all false gospels.

The quickest way to determine that Calvinism is a false gospel is to focus on the heresy of "Limited Atonement". Since the Bible is crystal clear that Christ died for the sins of the whole world, and that God wants all humanity to be saved, Limited Atonement is in fact a slap in the faces of God and Christ.
 

ForestGreenCook

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The scripture cited defines only one of the requirements of salvation, that of belief. When all pertinent scriptures are taken into consideration as they should be and not just cherrypicking only one, you end up with the following composite list of requirements for salvation.
1. Belief and faith
2. Confession of belief
3. Repentance
4. Water baptism

You must comply with all the requirements, not just one

All of the commandments you have given can deliver the child of God as he sojourns here in this world, but they are not the cause of his eternal deliverance. salvation=deliverance, according to Greek translation.
 

ForestGreenCook

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Well since most Christians reject the false gospel of Five Point Calvinism, it would seem that that Calvinism is what Paul called "another gospel" in Galatians (among others). He warned the Galatians to reject all false gospels.

The quickest way to determine that Calvinism is a false gospel is to focus on the heresy of "Limited Atonement". Since the Bible is crystal clear that Christ died for the sins of the whole world, and that God wants all humanity to be saved, Limited Atonement is in fact a slap in the faces of God and Christ.

If you are following most christians, you are following false doctrines. (Zeph 3:11-13). Only the remnant are teaching the doctrine of Christ.

The doctrine of Christ says that He only died for those that God gave him (John 6:39, & John 10:29).
 

ForestGreenCook

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You've still got it backwards, and you will not give up your false doctrines.
You've still got it backwards, and you will not give up your false doctrines.

Christ's doctrine harmonizes with all of the scriptures, the doctrine that you teach has contradicting scriptures.
 

ForestGreenCook

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I am perfectly familiar with the fact that salvation means deliverance. And there are NOT "many salvations, as you claim. So once again you enmeshed in false doctrines.

You are believing that all of the salvation (deliverance) scriptures are referencing eternal deliverance, which will teach you that eternal salvation is accomplished by good works. You try to explain away that believing, accepting, repenting, confessing, and such, are not works, but any action required by mankind to gain eternal deliverance is a work.
 

ForestGreenCook

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right the end will come after the only gospel is preached to all the world until the world ends and Jesus returns like he said in the gospel the one Paul became a believer and witness of

Your arguments aren’t making any sense

are you saying as paul wrote that sentance the gospel now somehow changed lol ? And that’s your reasoning for inventing a second gospel that erases the gospel Jesus preached and then becomes the word grace ? Which now means no one now needs to do anything god said will save them in the gospel he sent to all people ? Thier saves regardless of what the savior said ?

I must not have the extra special gra ce lens to see which verses are true and which verses are lies

Your last sentence describes why you are blinded to see the truth within the scriptures.
 

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You are believing that all of the salvation (deliverance) scriptures are referencing eternal deliverance, which will teach you that eternal salvation is accomplished by good works. You try to explain away that believing, accepting, repenting, confessing, and such, are not works, but any action required by mankind to gain eternal deliverance is a work.
Is accepting a work?
 
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Every time that you commit a sin, you are walking away from God's fellowship, until you repent, because God will not fellowship sin, even turning his back on his only begotten Son, during the three hours of darkness, on the cross, as he bore the sins of those that God gave him
Not every sin committed is intentional. Not every sin has a plot to it devised by yourself to do harm to anyone. It is true, every sin separates ourselves from God, but not God from us.

He knows we will Repent and place those under His shed Blood. He knows we were deceived into committing sins. He knows they are not premeditated. He knows we really don't desire to sin, especially ones that catch us by surprise and we react wrong. God became flesh and knows the nature of temptation and deception.

I am also not promoting we sin at all.

I am promoting that God's Grace is not a License to Sin. It is however, Grace given we most definitely do not deserve.
 

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The added word "being" changes the meaning of sanctified to being a process, instead of perfected. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.
I did not add a word. I translated the word as used in the greek. Ongoing. Present tense//

You need to study greek and language skills
 

oyster67

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God will not fellowship sin, even turning his back on his own Son during the three hours of darkness on the cross
God's own Son was not an apostate. Not even close. The Spirit of God will only tolerate arrogance and rebellion for so long. Don't put God to a foolish test.
1 John 1:9
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
 

ForestGreenCook

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Is accepting a work?

If it is required to receive something, it is a work.

You must understand that the born again child of God receives many salvations (deliverances) that are achieved, as they sojourn here in this world, by their good works.

Eternal deliverance for all of those that God gave to his Son, was a one time event, accomplished on the cross, by God's sovereign grace, without the help of mankind.
 

ForestGreenCook

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Not every sin committed is intentional. Not every sin has a plot to it devised by yourself to do harm to anyone. It is true, every sin separates ourselves from God, but not God from us.

He knows we will Repent and place those under His shed Blood. He knows we were deceived into committing sins. He knows they are not premeditated. He knows we really don't desire to sin, especially ones that catch us by surprise and we react wrong. God became flesh and knows the nature of temptation and deception.

I am also not promoting we sin at all.

I am promoting that God's Grace is not a License to Sin. It is however, Grace given we most definitely do not deserve.

Your first sentence is very true, however, by our fleshly nature, we do wilfully sin, at times, when the devil enticess us.
 

ForestGreenCook

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God's own Son was not an apostate. Not even close. The Spirit of God will only tolerate arrogance and rebellion for so long. Don't put God to a foolish test.
1 John 1:9
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

Although the sins of all of those that God gave to Jesus were forgiven, by his death on the cross, and were promised to inherit eternal life, without the loss of any, (John 6:39), God still commands them, when they commit sins, to confess their sins and repent in order to live a good and peaceful life here on earth.

Those, referred to in 1 John 1:9, were already born again, because the natural man, (1 Cor 2:14), before he has been quickened to the new spiritual life (Eph 2:1) cannot confess to breaking one of God's spiritual laws, that he cannot discern, and thinks them to be foolishness.