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John 17:20- I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word, 21- that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
 
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Is one NOT a Christian if they don't worship your 3 Gods?
 
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I am so sorry to read that you are 'mad'

And by the way, the Holy Spirit is not made of 'enthusiasm'

This will probably not fly for very long in this forum.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#50
It was only a coincidence I'm sure, 🤣
that Jeremiah 10 is my lunchtime devotion.
For any young believers or the unbelievers who follow this thread, please take note that the true God is the LORD Jesus of the New and Old Testaments. He proved that fact every time He created food for the multitudes. There are a multitude of passages from Genesis 1 to the end of Revelation that confirmed this fact as well as the Divinity of the Father and Holy Spirit.
  1. Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
  2. 2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
  3. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
  4. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
  5. 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
  6. 6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.
  7. 7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee.
  8. 8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.
  9. 9 Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men.
  10. 10 But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.
  11. 11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.
  12. 12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.
  13. 13 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.
  14. 14 Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.
  15. 15 They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.
  16. 16 The portion of Jacob is not like them: for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: The LORD of hosts is his name.
  17. 17 Gather up thy wares out of the land, O inhabitant of the fortress.
  18. 18 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will sling out the inhabitants of the land at this once, and will distress them, that they may find it so.
  19. 19 Woe is me for my hurt! my wound is grievous: but I said, Truly this is a grief, and I must bear it.
  20. 20 My tabernacle is spoiled, and all my cords are broken: my children are gone forth of me, and they are not: there is none to stretch forth my tent any more, and to set up my curtains.
  21. 21 For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.
  22. 22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.
  23. 23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
  24. 24 O LORD, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing.
  25. 25 Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on thy name: for they have eaten up Jacob, and devoured him, and consumed him, and have made his habitation desolate.
 

Magenta

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Is one NOT a Christian if they don't worship your 3 Gods?
Then He told them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
That is why I told you that you would die in your sins. For unless you believe that I am He, you will die
in your sins.”
“Who are You?” they asked. “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied.
John 8:23-25
 
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Then He told them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
That is why I told you that you would die in your sins. For unless you believe that I am He, you will die
in your sins.”
“Who are You?” they asked. “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied.
John 8:23-25
Bwahahahahahaha! Then he was talking to non-trinnies? Bwahahahahahahaha!
 
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#53
It was only a coincidence I'm sure, 🤣
that Jeremiah 10 is my lunchtime devotion.
For any young believers or the unbelievers who follow this thread, please take note that the true God is the LORD Jesus of the New and Old Testaments. He proved that fact every time He created food for the multitudes. There are a multitude of passages from Genesis 1 to the end of Revelation that confirmed this fact as well as the Divinity of the Father and Holy Spirit.
  1. Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
  2. 2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
  3. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
  4. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
  5. 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
  6. 6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.
  7. 7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee.
  8. 8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.
  9. 9 Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men.
  10. 10 But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.
  11. 11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.
  12. 12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.
  13. 13 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.
  14. 14 Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.
  15. 15 They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.
  16. 16 The portion of Jacob is not like them: for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: The LORD of hosts is his name.
  17. 17 Gather up thy wares out of the land, O inhabitant of the fortress.
  18. 18 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will sling out the inhabitants of the land at this once, and will distress them, that they may find it so.
  19. 19 Woe is me for my hurt! my wound is grievous: but I said, Truly this is a grief, and I must bear it.
  20. 20 My tabernacle is spoiled, and all my cords are broken: my children are gone forth of me, and they are not: there is none to stretch forth my tent any more, and to set up my curtains.
  21. 21 For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.
  22. 22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.
  23. 23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
  24. 24 O LORD, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing.
  25. 25 Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on thy name: for they have eaten up Jacob, and devoured him, and consumed him, and have made his habitation desolate.
You read a defective translation- one of the many that REMOVES God's Holy Name, replacing it with "LORD" so as to give an impression of your 3 Gods.
 
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#54
I am so sorry to read that you are 'mad'

And by the way, the Holy Spirit is not made of 'enthusiasm'

This will probably not fly for very long in this forum.

"Spirit" is in Grk/Heb "beath, the wind" denoting an invisible POWER- such as the power of the MIND!
 
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Dan2_44.jpg

Way back in Daniel it was told how Jehovah would be appointing His son!
 

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Glady! The Catholic Church first adopted (from other men) that Jesus WAS God- literally- and tortured and killed people who said otherwise- as Christ himself said. The ''Protestants" took it with them!


HISTORY PROBLEM:
- The belief in the deity of Christ can be traced back to verbal creeds PRIOR to the NT even being written.
These early creeds, in the form of early sayings to be memorized, were placed into written scripture AFTER they were already being taught in the churches as a normal doctrine of the faith. An example is Ph.2:6-11.
- The early church fathers also taught that Jesus was God... and it's in their writings.
These were the men who came directly after the original apostles, all the way back in the 1st century, and we still have many of their writings.
- The deity of Christ was also taught in all subsequent centuries, throughout Christendom. We still have all the writings verifying this.
- The deity of Christ was eventually discussed more articulately at the Council Of Nicea, which was an ecumenical council.
The purpose of this council was to deal with a few heresies on the subject. But the doctrine itself, that Christ was divine, had already been taught, throughout Christendom, as a foundational belief, from the 1st century onward. It had always been believed and taught.

The doctrine of the deity of Christ is a very early belief; it goes back even prior to the writing of the NT, and it is verified throughout the earliest centuries in the writings of the Church Fathers. It is a very early belief, and it's acceptance had nothing to do with the Roman Catholic church which didn't exist until centuries later.


LOGIC PROBLEM:
- It is a complete logical fallacy to go on about the Roman Catholic Church, as if this has anything to do with the doctrine.
- The proposition that "Jesus is God" not only preceded the Roman Catholic Church, but it's truth is also not contingent upon the RCC or it's behaviors.
- This entire argument about the RCC is irrelevant, and constitutes a logical fallacy.
- The truth of a proposition is NEVER contingent upon the actions of the people claiming it.
- This is literally an ad hominem fallacy, to claim a proposition is untrue because of the wrongdoing of someone who claims it.

This is a silly argument.
It is both silly and logically invalid.



To put things as gracious as possibly, you are simply ignorant of history, ignorant of scripture, and ignorant of simple logic.


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Exodus 3

God Miraculously Appears

1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.

2 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.

4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.

5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.

6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

Who Am I?

11 And Moses said unto God, Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?

12 And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain.

What Is His Name?

13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

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#58
HISTORY PROBLEM:
- The belief in the deity of Christ can be traced back to verbal creeds PRIOR to the NT even being written.
These early creeds, in the form of early sayings to be memorized, were placed into written scripture AFTER they were already being taught in the churches as a normal doctrine of the faith. An example is Ph.2:6-11.
- The early church fathers also taught that Jesus was God... and it's in their writings.
These were the men who came directly after the original apostles, all the way back in the 1st century, and we still have many of their writings.
- The deity of Christ was also taught in all subsequent centuries, throughout Christendom. We still have all the writings verifying this.
- The deity of Christ was eventually discussed more articulately at the Council Of Nicea, which was an ecumenical council.
The purpose of this council was to deal with a few heresies on the subject. But the doctrine itself, that Christ was divine, had already been taught, throughout Christendom, as a foundational belief, from the 1st century onward. It had always been believed and taught.

The doctrine of the deity of Christ is a very early belief; it goes back even prior to the writing of the NT, and it is verified throughout the earliest centuries in the writings of the Church Fathers. It is a very early belief, and it's acceptance had nothing to do with the Roman Catholic church which didn't exist until centuries later.


LOGIC PROBLEM:
- It is a complete logical fallacy to go on about the Roman Catholic Church, as if this has anything to do with the doctrine.
- The proposition that "Jesus is God" not only preceded the Roman Catholic Church, but it's truth is also not contingent upon the RCC or it's behaviors.
- This entire argument about the RCC is irrelevant, and constitutes a logical fallacy.
- The truth of a proposition is NEVER contingent upon the actions of the people claiming it.
- This is literally an ad hominem fallacy, to claim a proposition is untrue because of the wrongdoing of someone who claims it.

This is a silly argument.
It is both silly and logically invalid.



To put things as gracious as possibly, you are simply ignorant of history, ignorant of scripture, and ignorant of simple logic.


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Sources?
 
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Exodus 3

God Miraculously Appears

1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.

2 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.

4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.

5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.

6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

Who Am I?

11 And Moses said unto God, Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?

12 And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain.

What Is His Name?

13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

Read full chapter
The 3 angels spoke in the NAME of Jehovah. God did not appear as 3 men.