NEW CC Perspectives on Levels of Conspiracy & Corruption in 2020 Election, CV19 & DS Existence

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Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?


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SomeDisciple

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:poop:I'm so glad these rational-centrists have joined the thread.:poop: I feel like I'm seeing things so much clearer with all the persuasive evidence and logical thinking that is being presented! :poop:
 
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Has anyone actually looked at the poll in the start of this thread? 2/3 of the respondents said "yes" to this...
Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?

Imagine! 2/3 of the respondents believe such blatant lying!!! The question is obviously rigged and addresses two separate issues, calling the 2020 election fraudulent and calling COVID-19 a Deep State "Plandemic". This is the worst kind of polling! It is a perfect example of propaganda poorly disguised as research. It is a sad joke! Anyone interested in honest polling is disgusted by this kind of distortion of the truth, and it's happening on a Christian forum site!!!
 

Solemateleft

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Has anyone actually looked at the poll in the start of this thread? 2/3 of the respondents said "yes" to this...
Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?

Imagine! 2/3 of the respondents believe such blatant lying!!! The question is obviously rigged and addresses two separate issues, calling the 2020 election fraudulent and calling COVID-19 a Deep State "Plandemic". This is the worst kind of polling! It is a perfect example of propaganda poorly disguised as research. It is a sad joke! Anyone interested in honest polling is disgusted by this kind of distortion of the truth, and it's happening on a Christian forum site!!!
LOL... wife1.0 used to try to bait me into her meaningless debates with her Flawed Logic Trails... as she had no means to actually defend her case with REAL FACTS and REAL Logic...
LOL, the questionnaire is quite fair and objective in covering the full range of the plausible options on the full Spectrum of possibilities... The People had the CHOICE to choose options at the top or bottom of the spectrum of options...
LOL... and because the Majority CHOSE the OPTION(s) counter to your strongly held OPINION - just like a Right-Winger - THEY must ALL be WRONG... meanwhile this thread of 384+ pages & 7,670 posts - there are MOUNTAINS of EVIDENCE PROVING that EVERY CONSPIRACY WAS an ACTUAL CONSPIRACY and NOT a mere THEORY that the FAKE NEWS DS MK Ultra Machine wanted you and the public to believe...

Reminds me of the scene in the "Untouchables" Just like a .... bring a knife to a gunfight
To come poorly prepared or equipped for some task, goal, competition, or confrontation. Often used in the negative as a forewarning or piece of advice.
Make sure you have researched your position thoroughly and comprehensively before the debate. You don't want to bring a knife to a gunfight.
If you haven't studied law, representing yourself in court is like bringing a knife to a gunfight.
 

Solemateleft

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LOL... wife1.0 used to try to bait me into her meaningless debates with her Flawed Logic Trails... as she had no means to actually defend her case with REAL FACTS and REAL Logic...
LOL, the questionnaire is quite fair and objective in covering the full range of the plausible options on the full Spectrum of possibilities... The People had the CHOICE to choose options at the top or bottom of the spectrum of options...
LOL... and because the Majority CHOSE the OPTION(s) counter to your strongly held OPINION - just like a Right-Winger - THEY must ALL be WRONG... meanwhile this thread of 384+ pages & 7,670 posts - there are MOUNTAINS of EVIDENCE PROVING that EVERY CONSPIRACY WAS an ACTUAL CONSPIRACY and NOT a mere THEORY that the FAKE NEWS DS MK Ultra Machine wanted you and the public to believe...

Reminds me of the scene in the "Untouchables" Just like a .... bring a knife to a gunfight
To come poorly prepared or equipped for some task, goal, competition, or confrontation. Often used in the negative as a forewarning or piece of advice.
Make sure you have researched your position thoroughly and comprehensively before the debate. You don't want to bring a knife to a gunfight.
If you haven't studied law, representing yourself in court is like bringing a knife to a gunfight.
Correction: "Left-Winger"
 

Solemateleft

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And We Know -The People Of The Earth Are Fighting Back! Do Not Fear! Pray! - Must Video
Friday, March 17, 2023 14:24

By John Rolls (Reporter): "LT, I played 2 of your videos recently while driving and my Aunt loved them. FYI: She patted me on the back for an “atta boy” on the jabs. Said they are hoping they’ll all be ok, after 2 years ( 2 Moderna).. I’m so proud of her for doing her research no matter how hard it was to see the truth 🙏I pray for them and us for strength. Also wanted to say, your intros are absolutely amazing!! They keep getting better even though it doesn’t seem possible to be BETTER"
 

gb9

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What are you writing about?

I brought up Hitler because he is the epitome of a fascist leader. Fascism is defined as "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition." By definition, anti-Fascism -- antifa -- is the exact opposite.

There are those in the US -- or "america" as you call it without capitalization -- who oppose the extreme nationalism and racial hatred in the US today. antifa is such a group, and they oppose "conservative" speakers (though they are anything but) who promote racism and nationalism above freedom of the individual. If by "free speech" you include fascism, do you think that should be promoted in a democracy?

I have lived most of my life in the time when "conservatism" meant something:
  • Individual Freedom
  • Limited Government
  • The Rule of Law
  • Peace through Strength
  • Fiscal Responsibility
  • Free Markets
  • Human Dignity
Today it has morphed into political suppression of the opposition, unbridled capitalism, armed control of dissent, currying favor with Communist governments, dishonesty, unlimited ownership and use of guns, and other unAmerican tactics. The epitome was the attack on the Capitol to prevent the legal procedure to certify the results of the Presidential election, and the absurd claim that the election was "stolen". These are the tactics of fascists!

Do some research into how Hitler gained power if you want to understand what is happening in the US today.
we are not a democracy , we are a representative constitutional reublic.

free speech means free speech.
 

SomeDisciple

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... So, I don't want to just come off as simply a sarcastic Jerk-face: I did see that "Jaybo" and "JTB" have on their profiles that they were saved before I was born- so, in accordance with our Lord, I do consider that there is an age factor that may affect personal bias here; and I want to say that there is some benefit of the doubt when it comes to deciding whether or not these perspectives they offer are nothing but disingenuous farting out of the mouth.

I realize that there is some fear in the previous generations to mine of "The USSR", and I do remember the moderate rejoicing at the fall of the USSR; but not the preceding tensions and paranoia that went on. So, I realize that some people might be afraid of Putin because of Soviet-Russian history, and the formidability of Russia in general. But at the end of the day, I don't see persuasive evidence that Russia has the same nonsensical ideological tennets of the Soviet Union.

Furthermore; the 2014 revolution in Ukraine renders most of the arguments in favor of the Zelensky regime completely irrelevant to me. At the end of the day, the people in Crimea and the Donbas were defrauded by the revolutionaries, and have every right to reject the outcome of the revolution, and to seek the protection of the Russian federation. What happened there is simply none of our business- and we are EXCEEDINGLY STUPID for being involved in any way outside of humanitarian aid. We have neither legal, nor moral, nor strategic high-ground of any kind whatsoever and we should abandon aiding Zelensky's effort (or the DS effort) to "reclaim" what was never theirs in the first place.
 

Solemateleft

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LOL... wife1.0 used to try to bait me into her meaningless debates with her Flawed Logic Trails... as she had no means to actually defend her case with REAL FACTS and REAL Logic...
LOL, the questionnaire is quite fair and objective in covering the full range of the plausible options on the full Spectrum of possibilities... The People had the CHOICE to choose options at the top or bottom of the spectrum of options...
LOL... and because the Majority CHOSE the OPTION(s) counter to your strongly held OPINION - just like a Right-Winger - THEY must ALL be WRONG... meanwhile this thread of 384+ pages & 7,670 posts - there are MOUNTAINS of EVIDENCE PROVING that EVERY CONSPIRACY WAS an ACTUAL CONSPIRACY and NOT a mere THEORY that the FAKE NEWS DS MK Ultra Machine wanted you and the public to believe...

Reminds me of the scene in the "Untouchables" Just like a .... bring a knife to a gunfight
To come poorly prepared or equipped for some task, goal, competition, or confrontation. Often used in the negative as a forewarning or piece of advice.
Make sure you have researched your position thoroughly and comprehensively before the debate. You don't want to bring a knife to a gunfight.
If you haven't studied law, representing yourself in court is like bringing a knife to a gunfight.
Another way to interpret the results are that ONLY 20% of the CC Forum POLL Participants were of the OPINION that the Election WAS NOT FRAUDULANT .... In black and white terms ... That simple mathematical fact reveals that YOU ARE MERELY in the MINORITY... It doesn't necessarily mean that you are a bad person, but coupled with all the substantiating EVIDENCE, FACTS and PROOF provided on this thread - it simply means you are WRONG.... It's not personal ... it's just the truth... unfortunately sometimes the TRUTH is a tuff pill to swallow...
 

ZNP

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Another way to interpret the results are that ONLY 20% of the CC Forum POLL Participants were of the OPINION that the Election WAS NOT FRAUDULANT .... In black and white terms ... That simple mathematical fact reveals that YOU ARE MERELY in the MINORITY... It doesn't necessarily mean that you are a bad person, but coupled with all the substantiating EVIDENCE, FACTS and PROOF provided on this thread - it simply means you are WRONG.... It's not personal ... it's just the truth... unfortunately sometimes the TRUTH is a tuff pill to swallow...
Can people change their vote?
 

HeIsHere

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Please, do explain what it means then
The Bee Explains: What Is Antifa?

Notable accomplishments: Burning down black neighborhoods, beating up journalists, tearing down statues of old white guys.

How to spot an Antifa member: Hasn't showered in days, face masked because they are really proud of what they're doing, expensive smartphone purchased by parents.

Famous Antifa members: Joseph Stalin, Xi Jinping, Rachel Maddow, Brian Stelter, that lady who screamed at the sky when Trump was being inaugurated, the entire population of Portland, Oregon.

Famous enemies of Antifa: The Constitution, history books, gainful employment.

Babylon Bee (source)
 

Solemateleft

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Can people change their vote?
LOL, I just scrolled up to the top... and yes, it looks like there is a "Change Your Vote" button at the bottom right side of the Poll results...
 

HeIsHere

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Another way to interpret the results are that ONLY 20% of the CC Forum POLL Participants were of the OPINION that the Election WAS NOT FRAUDULANT .... In black and white terms ... That simple mathematical fact reveals that YOU ARE MERELY in the MINORITY... It doesn't necessarily mean that you are a bad person, but coupled with all the substantiating EVIDENCE, FACTS and PROOF provided on this thread - it simply means you are WRONG.... It's not personal ... it's just the truth... unfortunately sometimes the TRUTH is a tuff pill to swallow...

His reactions are way over the top.

It is just a poll, seems to me there are plenty of options.
Plus no one was forced to participate.
 

ZNP

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His reactions are way over the top.

It is just a poll, seems to me there are plenty of options.
Plus no one was forced to participate.
Well to be fair you really didn't have an option for him "This is blatant lying, a perfect example of propaganda"

though I suppose that is a little ambiguous as to which side he is falling on.
 

HeIsHere

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Well to be fair you really didn't have an option for him "This is blatant lying, a perfect example of propaganda"

though I suppose that is a little ambiguous as to which side he is falling on.
I do not understand how a poll can be lying.

Sometimes @jaybo gets emotional and makes strange statements. It is the interpretation of the poll that could be false (lying).
 

HeIsHere

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Well to be fair you really didn't have an option for him "This is blatant lying, a perfect example of propaganda"

though I suppose that is a little ambiguous as to which side he is falling on.
You are being funny... haha...got it.. took me a while.
 

ZNP

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I do not understand how a poll can be lying.

Sometimes @jaybo gets emotional and makes strange statements. It is the interpretation of the poll that could be false (lying).
Well, suppose the choice was "Do you agree with the domestic terrorists in the DC jail that the election was stolen?" a little different from "Do you agree with the overwhelming evidence that fraud took place during the 2020 election?"