The new generation

[Niki7]

"eXric, post: 5053755, member: 314989"]would of been fine if you did. Not trying to hide that fact. I was going to ask you if you had a bad experience with someone calling themselves a prophet? It would make some sense if that was the case. Seems you said something about non-prophetic people calling themselves a prophet and hurting people. This is one of the reason I have issues with some charismatic teachings. Seems most people that call themselves prophets are not what they say. It is a scam to make money and and be popular. This is said but true. I personally have meet to many of them. It is usually very easy to spot them. Because the Holy Spirit gift of discernment. Well people that do not have that gift it might not be that easy. Bible says you can spot them by their fruit, which is most usefully. Many false prophets try to quote the bible very well till they need to twist it to their liking, but just a little twist, to not be discovered. They seek the praises of man. etc.

Nope. No bad experience with someone calling themself a prophet.

Yes everyone should study a lot in the bible. Question everything, even the teachings of all others. Search it out for themselves. Many people read the bible and do not really study it. If some big popular church leader says something many people just agree and say they studied it, because they believe that person did the studying for them. It is good to study, but do the work yourselves also. Praying to God to help you understand the scriptures is also good. Bible being the inspired word of God is cool, but humans getting many different types or versions of the bible is not so much. This is where a person needs to study the writing texts and look at the different ways and different versions try to tell to understand it.
If a person can or will not do this and just relies on others that seem smart enough to tell them, I would not call that really studying but it is still some studying done.

We are to renew our minds according to the word, which simply means to agree with what is written in order to align our thoughts with God's truth and what He says. We do not align ourselves visions and other people's experience which is subjective at best and deceptive at worst.


Well a scribe from my understanding is a person that writes down what another person says.

Yes I do realize cults do that. Also some of those call themselves Christian too. Christian Churches also do this, where them esteem a bible version above another, write their own translation version of a bible, esteem a church leaders writings to high, maybe also there preaching, and esteem their doctrine and or viewpoint and or theology above scriptures.

I do not know nor do I presume to know, just how the Holy Spirit had men in the OT write what they did. Impression? Audible? The Bible does not say in most instances. If you state you simply write what God tells you, then it seems we may have to add some books to the Bible. smh However what I do know, is that many presume to speak for God and because people have not applied themself to the truth, they give their itching ears to the false.

 

[Beckie]

Respect is earned not entitled you can have more years in this than me that doesn't matter since when has that been issue with God.

Lev_19:32 Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD.
Pro_16:31 The hoary head is a crown of glory, if it be found in the way of righteousness.

 

[Beckie]

You know I am not sure why but for some reason you never seem to understand what I say. I ntoiced how you highted only a part of my words when if you ntoice right after I spoke about not studying the word I said maybe we arent ready to yet. not to mention I was very open and explained why I came to that conclusion and what made me want to seek the truth but of course that isn't what you saw and you didn't take my post as a whole.

That is exactly what people do with the word of God especially in debates it is a habit and if you do this with just a concersation online how do we know you don't do that with the word of God?

Your just the common debater just another person who only sees with their perception unreachable and cannot be reasoned with I have had my fair share of your type. Your not here to learn or grow your not here for the kingdom and you are just stuck in your mind set. I can't feel his spirit in your words at all you just seem dry Yes I said maybe we should stop studying the word and I suppose I should have been more clear my point is if we want the truth we need to take a break form studying and develope our bond with God first.

I wasn't blind to the inconsistancy that the word has become how divided the body has become and I refuesed to accept it if I was going to read the bible it had to be with his eyes and his alone I wanted to see what the word of God really says what the word of God really is what the truth of the kingdom and of God is but he told me I had to reach this level he is calling us to first and that is exactly the journey I am on with him.

There is a clear difference in the words you and I speak, you are wasting your time and breath on here your constantly in conflict with others and show no fruits of the spirit.

But what am I doing? I am speaking of the things of God I am trying to get people to devote themselves to him in a much deeper way O am trying to take up those who have fallen asleep

Anyone with discernment would pay attention to the fruits being spoken on both sides and decide for themselves by whose spirit we are speaking

The subtillness of the garden is showing its self at work in your posts'
Luk_6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
1Co 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
1Co 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
1Co 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
1Co 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
1Co 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

 

[Fundaamental]

Right. Only camels spit when they feel threatened.

The blue star rise in our hearts? I would laugh but this is straight occult nonsense. The devil gives many visions to those who cannot distinguish what is and what is not God.

Seriously your only seeing this one way.

I'll give you the prophetic prophecy,
We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.

Peter
19 We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place.as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

Ok now look this verse up if your interested to learn about prophetic prophesy that is, you'll find it in peter

Now use your imagination and replace Morning star with blue star.

Then if your struggling to still use that your imagination of what you have been blessed with,

Have you ever heard the expression Jesus was a true blue and also a star,

You may then consider that prophetic prophecy is something that enlightens your senses and helps you To use your imagination, like it does our brother Blain, where you could engage with some friendly dialogue with blain.

Now as for camels lol, apparently if they lick your face first and then slobber over you it's because they have become excited and happy to see you. Even more so if this happens to you a camel will be your friend for life and never give you the hump.

But sadly if the camel doesn't lick your face first it's means it's not pleased to see you as it's more than likely you have the hump.
Sadly I forgot to mention the camel licked my face first then slobbered all over me, not spat lol.



Ok now let's try to remove your hump of seeing yet another person as having no intelligence which I hardly think this is worth getting the hump over.

Ok so the prophetic prophecy is when you see the morning star (blue star) (Jesus) rises in your heart this is when you'll see the kingdom,

Now if your still struggling to comprehend Jesus was also known as the morning star.

 

[Fundaamental]

Actually I do listen to people only people who I respect and I see wisdom in. I don't listen to just anyone I look for the fruits of God in people and if you are not someone I hold in regard I won't listen to your so called wisdom.

Respect is earned not entitled you can have more years in this than me that doesn't matter since when has that been issue with God.

I have encountered plenty who had many years and even claimed to be scholars and yet they had no understanding of scripture and they refused to listen to reason from anyone not just me but anyone.

So just because you think I don't listen doesn't mean I don't I just listen to those who I deem to be worthy to be listened to I am attracted to wisdom and the love of God if you don't show this then why should I listen? it's basically like if you show the wisdom and fruits of God it is almost like the spirit himself is speaking and it is easy for me to recieve even if I have to admit I was wrong about something but if not then it is just words from a person it lacks flavor there is no flow in it and

feel free to pm, later Jason

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

you are not peter

...nor the Holy Spirit that Inspired Peter.

 

[Fundaamental]

Ok so where does the expression a true blue Christian come from,

Or the expression Jesus is a true blue come from, I could imagine there could be many reasons, but I'm not sharing mine first, as there's a prize involved for the winner 🏆.

 

[Niki7]

Fundaamental, post: 5053768, member: 322184"]Seriously your only seeing this one way.

I'll give you the prophetic prophecy,
We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.

Oh sorry. I didn't realize you were there. Which one are you the reincarnation of?

2
Peter
19 We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place.as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

Peter speaking here. He is not telling you that YOU have a prophetic message.

Ok now look this verse up if your interested to learn about prophetic prophesy that is, you'll find it in peter

The difference being that I do not regard myself with the authority of Peter or think to use that particular taken out of context verse as my reference for believing in reincarnation or gifting through non-compliance with actual scripture


Now use your imagination and replace Morning star with blue star.

Nice. You did not refer to Jesus though. You simply said blue star and everyone's eyes turned blue. A typical false incursion into the truth which you happily received.

Then if your struggling to still use that your imagination of what you have been blessed with,

Have you ever heard the expression Jesus was a true blue and also a star,

Yeah. nope. I have never heard the expression Jesus was a true blue but I know what the expression 'true blue' means. You are just full of extra-biblical teachings so I cannot really identify with them

You may then consider that prophetic prophecy is something that enlightens your senses and helps you To use your imagination, like it does our brother Blain, where you could engage with some friendly dialogue with blain.

Prophetic prophecy . Is there another kind? You didn't watch that last step and you have gone off the deep end.

Now as for camels lol, apparently if they lick your face first and then slobber over you it's because they have become excited and happy to see you. Even more so if this happens to you a camel will be your friend for life and never give you the hump.

Yes and can you point to an article that will agree with what you say here? Your camel is as imaginary as the tooth fairy. But who knows, you may have had a vision about that also...

But sadly if the camel doesn't lick your face first it's means it's not pleased to see you as it's more than likely you have the hump.
Sadly I forgot to mention the camel licked my face first then slobbered all over me, not spat lol.

I think you do have the hump whatever that means in your specialized little fantasy world. Maybe two humps even.


Ok now let's try to remove your hump of seeing yet another person as having no intelligence which I hardly think this is worth getting the hump over.

There is intelligence at work in this thread. But not from above.

Ok so the prophetic prophecy is when you see the morning star (blue star) (Jesus) rises in your heart this is when you'll see the kingdom,

I have asked 3 times and you do not answer. This makes it 4. When did you accept Christ as having died on your behalf and acknowledged that you are a sinner and only His shed blood, shed on your behalf, saves you from your sin?

Now if your still struggling to comprehend Jesus was also known as the morning star.

You do not seem to know Jesus as we find Him in scripture. You seem to know a different Jesus. He did say that many false Christs would arise and deception would be rampant.

 

[Niki7]

Ok so where does the expression a true blue Christian come from,

Or the expression Jesus is a true blue come from, I could imagine there could be many reasons, but I'm not sharing mine first, as there's a prize involved for the winner 🏆.

You do not believe in actual Christianity. We all know that so you are fooling no one.

It may be time to start reporting your blather. This forum does not support the non-Christian teaching you espouse.

 

[Fundaamental]

You do not believe in actual Christianity. We all know that so you are fooling no one.

It may be time to start reporting your blather. This forum does not support the non-Christian teaching you espouse.

Wow and your 180 posts prove your a Christian, I don't have to prove that I'm a Christian or born again to somebody whos intent on being mean,

you've allready suggested I wasn't a Christian on the basis of me explaining my meaning of Baptism of fire, and don't say you never, because your next answer to me was questioning my salvation, with I have question for you about being saved. What was it you said ?... Yeah I have a question for you.

This is an intimidating manner which would suggest your not here to share.

All you've been is harsh here many times so you don't get to decide if I'm a devil worshipping the occult,

That a highly suspicious manner you have.
I've got better things to. Goodbye.

 

[eXric]

"eXric, post: 5053755, member: 314989"]would of been fine if you did. Not trying to hide that fact. I was going to ask you if you had a bad experience with someone calling themselves a prophet? It would make some sense if that was the case. Seems you said something about non-prophetic people calling themselves a prophet and hurting people. This is one of the reason I have issues with some charismatic teachings. Seems most people that call themselves prophets are not what they say. It is a scam to make money and and be popular. This is said but true. I personally have meet to many of them. It is usually very easy to spot them. Because the Holy Spirit gift of discernment. Well people that do not have that gift it might not be that easy. Bible says you can spot them by their fruit, which is most usefully. Many false prophets try to quote the bible very well till they need to twist it to their liking, but just a little twist, to not be discovered. They seek the praises of man. etc.

Nope. No bad experience with someone calling themself a prophet.

Yes everyone should study a lot in the bible. Question everything, even the teachings of all others. Search it out for themselves. Many people read the bible and do not really study it. If some big popular church leader says something many people just agree and say they studied it, because they believe that person did the studying for them. It is good to study, but do the work yourselves also. Praying to God to help you understand the scriptures is also good. Bible being the inspired word of God is cool, but humans getting many different types or versions of the bible is not so much. This is where a person needs to study the writing texts and look at the different ways and different versions try to tell to understand it.
If a person can or will not do this and just relies on others that seem smart enough to tell them, I would not call that really studying but it is still some studying done.

We are to renew our minds according to the word, which simply means to agree with what is written in order to align our thoughts with God's truth and what He says. We do not align ourselves visions and other people's experience which is subjective at best and deceptive at worst.


Well a scribe from my understanding is a person that writes down what another person says.

Yes I do realize cults do that. Also some of those call themselves Christian too. Christian Churches also do this, where them esteem a bible version above another, write their own translation version of a bible, esteem a church leaders writings to high, maybe also there preaching, and esteem their doctrine and or viewpoint and or theology above scriptures.

I do not know nor do I presume to know, just how the Holy Spirit had men in the OT write what they did. Impression? Audible? The Bible does not say in most instances. If you state you simply write what God tells you, then it seems we may have to add some books to the Bible. smh However what I do know, is that many presume to speak for God and because people have not applied themself to the truth, they give their itching ears to the false.

If someone was a scribe to King David, then yes write down what he says to write, and it is now in the bible.
Where as, in John's writing of revelations sounded like he wrote it him self in real time maybe.
Yes many people do presume to speak for God. Well even bible scholars do that too, even though they applied them self very much to the truth as some see it. People use the scriptural truth to scam people because they know the scriptures well. Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to teach us all things.
At least, we can know the truth that way.

 

[Bruce_Leiter]

I too have been in many pitched battles against the evil one, but God the Father through Jesus' mighty victory has won those battles! God has given me a spiritual gift of creativity through writing. He has blessed me with twelve published books with more on the publishing horizon. See my website, growingtoknowGod.org.

 

[Marilyn]

the fires of divine affection?

this goes on constantly among certain groups and most of them have apostolic something interwoven in their names

in the sense of rapture? let's just make it up as we go along smh who needs the Bible when you have all these prophets

Hi Niki,

I know what you mean. With the true there is always the counterfeit. The `Apostolic` church mentioned is my heritage, (grandparents came from Scotland early 1933) and came out of the Welsh Revival. And yes, so many groups have `apostolic` in their name now.

 

[Marilyn]

This is astounding and mind blowing I will have to try to find them again but I have a thread that has all the poems God lead me to write and several of them speak of this exact thing and not mention the vision he gave me a few weeks or so ago where I saw me but it was like I was in hd I looked more realistic than I do now in reality and sudenly as if God and I became one in unity my eyes gowed an intense blue color and I saw a barren land whas this city but it was polluyed and filthy covered in trash even the people there were filthy and covered in trash but they had no idea when suddenly it started softly as if coming from a distance but they all started hearing singing and slowly it became louder and louder until it was so loud everyone instantly turned towards it and there was a army of people envoloped in a gold light walking and singing praise and worship to God every step they took turned the ground into holy ground life sprouted streams flowed of living water consuming the barren land



I would like to again stress how I recieved this prophecy in this thread I stated it was given to me when I was worshipping God

Yes, keep praising the Lord bro, and let Him give you more light. The spoken word of God is so precious.

 

[Niki7]

Wow and your 180 posts prove your a Christian, I don't have to prove that I'm a Christian or born again to somebody whos intent on being mean,

you've allready suggested I wasn't a Christian on the basis of me explaining my meaning of Baptism of fire, and don't say you never, because your next answer to me was questioning my salvation, with I have question for you about being saved. What was it you said ?... Yeah I have a question for you.

This is an intimidating manner which would suggest your not here to share.

All you've been is harsh here many times so you don't get to decide if I'm a devil worshipping the occult,

That a highly suspicious manner you have.
I've got better things to. Goodbye.

My name is written in the Lamb's book of Life. These posts are no more than a cinder in the wind.

You apparently cannot say when you accepted Jesus as your Savior. People need to pay attention to that. It is revealing.

 

[Niki7]

Hi Niki,

I know what you mean. With the true there is always the counterfeit. The `Apostolic` church mentioned is my heritage, (grandparents came from Scotland early 1933) and came out of the Welsh Revival. And yes, so many groups have `apostolic` in their name now.

Well, the word Apostolic has meaning. I am cognizant of the Welsh revival. I too have relatives that hail from that area.

 

[Niki7]

All you've been is harsh here many times so you don't get to decide if I'm a devil worshipping the occult,

You do not qualify to be a devil.

First off, there is but one devil; however many demons.

Since I am aware of that distinction, I would not have referred to you as a devil.

You are not a spirit. So, you are of the material that Jesus died for and expresses His desire that you are not bound by deception but rather He would have you walk in freedom and truth.

Freedom means freedom from the devil's kingdom. No deception and twisting of the gospel.

 

[Niki7]

I too have been in many pitched battles against the evil one, but God the Father through Jesus' mighty victory has won those battles! God has given me a spiritual gift of creativity through writing. He has blessed me with twelve published books with more on the publishing horizon. See my website, growingtoknowGod.org.

I do not believe we are allowed to advertise websites and so on within the forum context. Making a pitch for your site and your books within the context of this thread?

Tacky to say the least Bruce

 

[Marilyn]

Well, the word Apostolic has meaning. I am cognizant of the Welsh revival. I too have relatives that hail from that area.

Hi Niki,

Oh, that is very interesting having connections with Wales and knowing about the Welsh Revival. And you`re right the word `Apostolic` does have meaning, however many have made it about CEO`s of their organizations and trying to bring dominion over the world in the 7 mountains, (areas of influences in the world). Whereas we know from God`s word that He is going to judge the world system and not fix it up.

Marilyn.

 

[Angela53510]

!

Sorry for the late reply I was in the hospital luckily I did manage to meet a case manager there so that is a good thing. Now I will try to answer as best as I can I was not able to read your entire post it was hurting my eyes to much so I will try to answer what I can.. There is no church I can go to in my current state but when my health wasn't so bad I did attend a church for a while and spoke with many different people and enjoyed deep bible study with several elders but circumstances made it where it was to farr away to go so I attenbeded different churches here and there some of them were decent one of them actually amazed me as the second you stepped into that building you were slammed with the presence of the holy spirit I intend to speak about it some time in a thread as it is a story that is amazing but eventually I was unable to go there too for lack of a ride so I have seen the state of many different churches and most of them fit the bill of what I have been saying about the church but I have already been lead to speak to two different churches and both times God just took over and I just spoke the words as if it was pouring out of my mouth you could see how people were being affecting they even clapped and cheered at the end it was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen to see God impact people in such a way just remembering it my eyes are starting to tear up

This was when I was suddenly changed I just felt different I can now always feel his presence in me all the time I am on a different frequency with him now.

This was when I consered the state of the churches I saw and when I considered the actual truth of God his word and the kingdom. I then got on my knees in my room kneeled before him so low that I couldn't go any lower and I completely surrendered to him begging to know the truth This was the first time out of the four times his presence suddenly filled my room like a thick soup to bask in his presence like that you you suddenly understand the kingdom of God you feel a combination of different things you want to sing praise and honor to him with every fiber of your being while wanting to kneel before in reverence not uttering a word just honoring him and revering him as king and Lord your enveloped in warmth and love and also a sensation I don't quite know how to explain or call it it is a part of him I have never experienced before.

Things like this were only the beginning as I continued to go on a new journey with him seeing and experiencing and learning things I never knew or was blind to suddenly I could see the truth

I cannot say I was sudden;y ready to just come on here declare I was a prophet give a prophecy and say everything I have in fact it was quite hard on me but I obeyed because I made him my Lord and king and I take his orders seriously.

Many have issues with the things I say but the thing is I actually get results. I speak of the things of the kingdom I am constantly telling people here what God is trying to get us to listen to I am always trying to get people to go to the level he is calling us to it is time to really get serious and make our resolve with him

He isn't messing around anymore and neither am I im done playing games here I won't accept the status quo I won't be the average Christian I am going or the truth I am going or the kingdom and i people actually listen they will know his wonder and glory
Did it ever cross anyones minds that all the testimonies I have given o my experiences with him all the fruits I have spoken of just might actually be the real deal?

you reap what you sow and if my reaping has been bountiful it would be wise to consider what I am sowing[/QUOTE]

Blain, you are consumed with your own self-importance! You have so little understanding of the Bible & biblical prophecy, that you claim your "fruits" might be real! Do you know what fruits are in the Bible? Gal 5:22-23 sums them up! Although you could include other things like sharing the gospel, being compassionate, helping the poor, etc.

What fruits are you talking about? The results of you pretending to read into the future, perhaps? Your feel good words rousing a crowd of people ready to hear people pleasing words??

Sadly, you don't even know what a prophecy is in the Bible. Have you read the major prophets 5 of them? How about the minor prophets, 13 of them?

While there are some future predictions in the OT esp, they are fulfilled in Christ, or will be fulfilled at the Second Comkng of Christ!! Mostly, the prophets did foretelling about the destruction of those who do not follow & obey God. Vague predictions are not prophecy!

The prophets cried out for the people to repent of their wickedness! It stands out so strongly in the OT, that a true prophet isn't speaking to make people happy or emotional! In fact, the opposite. Prophets make people uncomfortable, by pointing out their sin and evil. Read Isaiah! In chapter 6, the first thing that happens after Isaiah is called, is recognizing his own sinfulness! And God cleans him with a burning coal on his lips! Have your lips been burned, to clean out your sin? Have you repented in sackcloth & ashes before your God?

I had hope for you many times. I prayed God would change you and that you would lose these delusions of grandeur. To say nothing of your total lack of understanding of what biblical prophecy is!

You have this wrong idea that you open your mouth, or you take a pen to write, and words just flow out of you! Automatic writing, I said before, but in this post, it is what you said! Words pouring out of your mouth, with no control!

"I have already been lead to speak to two different churches and both times God just took over and I just spoke the words as if it was pouring out of my mouth you could see how people were being affecting they even clapped and cheered at the end it was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen to see God impact people in such a way just remembering it my eyes are starting to tear up!"

"Words... it was pouring out of my mouth... people were being affecting (sic)"

What does the Bible say about the manner of prophecy?

"The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets." 1 Cor 14:32

NO! God does NOT use you as an inert body to pour out his words. If you were truly a prophet of God, you would have complete control over the words coming out of your mouth.

And your proof that your words were truly from God? You could see "how people were being affected!" NO, NO. NO!

The measure of any biblical prophet is the truth of the words! Never is the reaction of the people hearing a sign that your words are from God!

In fact, your eternal soul is in peril! You are being possessed by demons, who use you to write words and words pour out of your mouth that affect people! This is demonic! It doesn't matter how people were affected. I don't care if they were clapping & cheering! Who were they applauding? Not God, because he was not the source of these predictions! Maybe the devil, who was the source of this verbal and written garbage.

It was actually you, you are claiming they were applauding. And you wanted it, loved it. God didn't impact them. If he had, the results would have been tangible, people saved, healed, lives changed. Concrete things, not some kind of mass, hysterical applause & cheering to words "pouring out of your mouth."

1 Cor 14 is a rebuke to people like you, written to the church in Corinth, who were out of order in the way they used their prophetic gifts! Paul found a church in confusion.

"For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people." 1 Cor 14:33!

You have come here to brag about your mouth opening and God pouring out words that "affected" people! In other words, they got emotional, as charismatics often do! What were the fruits?? Getting emotional is not a fruit anywhere in the Bible.

You are not a prophet Blain. You do not even understand what prophecy is, you have no control over your words, written or oral, which is completely unbiblical! Read your Bible. Read 1 Cor 14 and how mixed up they were! Oh right, your eyes hurt you too much to read a post rebuking you, I'm sure they will hurt too much to read your Bible! What disease affects your eyes, Blain? Give me the name, so I can look it up! I'm sure you know what it is called!

It grieves me to read your words, your self justification, your pretence of prophecy, when you are being used as a vessel for pride and evil. Repent of your sins! It is not to late to renounce your false speaking!