The new generation

Marilyn · Apr 9, 2023

Hi Blain,

Just want to give a more detailed explanation of the `mustard seed.` Now, it is important to note that when we read what the Lord says to Israel, (under the law) and try and apply it to ourselves, you know what? - we get guilty. Why? because we are reading about under the law.

When Jesus came to earth He came to confirm to the people of Israel the promises made to them. (Rom. 15: 8) One of those promises refers to the `mustard seed. `

The Architect - God`s Design - Universal.

God designed the kingdom/rule of heaven to be overall and affecting all, (over the earth) - Universal.

The Mustard Seed - Jesus quotes Ezekiel`s prophecy that Israel will rule in a prominent place as ruler of the nations. (Matt. 13: 32, Ez. 17: 22 - 24)

God will...`plant it on a high and prominent mountain. On the mountain height of Israel, I will plant it; and it will bring forth boughs, and bear fruit, and be a majestic cedar. Under it will dwell birds (nations) of every sort; in the shadow of it branches they will dwell.` (Ez. 17: 22 - 24)

`Another parable He put forth to them saying, " The kingdom (rule) of heaven is like a mustard seed which a man took and sowed in His field, (world), which indeed is the least of all the seeds; but when grown it is greater than the herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches.` (Matt. 13: 31 & 32)

Fundaamental · Apr 9, 2023

eXric said:

Ok but I don't get into discussion of Catholics, where I'm from our country is divided by Catholics and protestants, so much so young people physically chuck stones at each other, whole communities are divided by Catholic and protestant, I moved back to wales from Ireland because of it. I'm church of England who split away from the Roman Catholic church and the pope.

But I've never gone to church apart from the odd occasion.
It makes me laugh because St Jerome was a Catholic who translated all the Latin scriptures to English he even traveled for many years piecing together the scriptures in the order they should be written in our first English bible, deciding what was suitable what was not. Every branch of denomination of Christianity is a branch of Catholicism.

But anyway I don't want to discuss this anymore with you, because debates about religion just leads to stone chucking,

I'm more interested in the prophets, I haven't come here to discuss Catholicism,

I see some people live by morals which is fine, some people prefer to chuck stones first then ask questions, believing this is the way to get to heart of the matter, as to not waste anytime.

But I'm use to it people have always looked at me differently, my whole community herd the prophesy that came from my mouth that day, the kids call me.
Moses in my community, I take it as a joke. But the parents I can see there fear when I look at them, but I break it down, and pull down the Wall of fear, and say it was Just God speaking through me.

But as For Jesus also being a person, as well as spirit, it's in scripture somewhere, there's a passage that says Jesus sits next to the father on his right hand side.

Fundaamental · Apr 9, 2023

Blain said:

Well it's harder for some, because they feel inadequate, people have a hard time believing other people's gifts,

Because they haven't experienced it, or they wonder how come I don't get that gift,

But you know its your heart that matters, your faith grows with strength in all the fruits and gifts of the holy spirit, as should tolerance and forgiveness, it's water of a ducks back for me to deal with insults, Hope in prayer can prepare you in advance to deal with criticism, but I don't hold any value over one Gift to the other.
My mind Gets renewed daily and I've forgot about yesterdays mistakes allready,

Or i hold equally as much value to a prophet of the old t to a Christian.

Jesus spoke in prophecies all the times, there's a whole bunch that have been fulfilled,
There's also revelation that states there is a spirit of prophecy, then theres the scripture that states the first fruits of the spirit could be the gift of prophecy, for the believer.

I don't want the gift of prophecy,
That's my issue, I fight with God over it.

Sometimes I've wondered have i asked for this Gift in prayer, when I was younger, I ask God to take it way, but it won't go,

I wake up everyday wondering what events am I going to see unfold today,

God's wants me to Go to places I don't want to go and God tries to keep me away from places I want to go to.

eXric · Apr 9, 2023

Fundaamental said:

Ok but I don't get into discussion of Catholics, where I'm from our country is divided by Catholics and protestants, so much so young people physically chuck stones at each other, whole communities are divided by Catholic and protestant, I moved back to wales from Ireland because of it. I'm church of England who split away from the Roman Catholic church and the pope.

But I've never gone to church apart from the odd occasion.
It makes me laugh because St Jerome was a Catholic who translated all the Latin scriptures to English he even traveled for many years piecing together the scriptures in the order they should be written in our first English bible, deciding what was suitable what was not. Every branch of denomination of Christianity is a branch of Catholicism.

But anyway I don't want to discuss this anymore with you, because debates about religion just leads to stone chucking,

I'm more interested in the prophets, I haven't come here to discuss Catholicism,

I see some people live by morals which is fine, some people prefer to chuck stones first then ask questions, believing this is the way to get to heart of the matter, as to not waste anytime.

But I'm use to it people have always looked at me differently, my whole community herd the prophesy that came from my mouth that day, the kids call me.
Moses in my community, I take it as a joke. But the parents I can see there fear when I look at them, but I break it down, and pull down the Wall of fear, and say it was Just God speaking through me.

But as For Jesus also being a person, as well as spirit, it's in scripture somewhere, there's a passage that says Jesus sits next to the father on his right hand side.

Not here to pick on anyone's believes.

Yes Jesus sits next to the father in heaven, but when he was born into a human body that is when I believe he become a person. Before that he was the Word of God what ever that looks like , but I would not call Him a person. There for , why are you calling Jesus a person before He was born is my question? Another way to ask what you mean by person might just be useful to describe. Maybe you description is different then I just did describe?

Fundaamental · Apr 9, 2023

eXric said:

It would take more than Just 1 scripture to show, you.

The human body is lifeless without a mind and conscience, it's not your body that makes you a person, it's your mind and conscience son.

God is not a God of the Dead, he is God of the living,

God has a living mind Just like you and I son, He made us in his image. His mind is a living physical mind so is yours,

If your thinking God does not have Flesh, then this is where your not seeing God the person.

His spirit travels everywhere.
Whilst God the person dwells in his kingdom.

Celestial mind with a celestial body would be more appropriate for you when your mind leaves your body one day which it will do,

But your still a person when this happens.

You would have to consider God made us in his image in many many scriptures to truly work it all out.

Fundaamental · Apr 9, 2023

The spirit of prophecy as well could be something every Christian receives to keep them self's out of danger. Anyone ever thought of that ?.

Magenta · Apr 9, 2023

Blain said:

Honestly he has really been drilling faith into me I mean yes my faith is growing but the concept and actual essence of faith and really consider deeply if we really understand faith. I mean we study about it we say we have it but just seems off to me something is missing because one thing I can't stop thinking about is when Jesus said the most outrageous thing that with the faith of a mustard anything is possible with God that word anything really think about what word means

I mean is it just me or does it seem we are lacking this anything? Am I the only one seeing something here?

Jesus' words in Matthew 17:20-21
Faith the size of a mustard seed moved the mountain of my unbelief .

eXric · Apr 9, 2023

The way I read it in the bible, is we should want that gift of prophecy. Not to be a prophet , for God appoints that and other Jobs. Humans appointing them self to prophet is not good. Humans wanting to working with God and the Holy Spirit gift of prophecy is good. If a person does call themselves a prophet, I would not just believe them, but wait for the Holy Spirit to show me. Some people use the gift of prophecy incorrectly, and they mean well, but can still cause issues. Others just listen to the enemy, for the enemy is ready to lead them to evil. Everyone be careful, when you meet someone claiming to be a prophet, you should have the Holy Spirit gift of discernment ideally, but at least it must be biblically based. Weather or not someone is a prophet or just using the Holy Spirt gift of prophecy there is a big responsibility to do it correctly. Do not be in a rush to share, but wait on God's timing and pray, beause God knows how long it will take for a person to understand before the time arises. Many people rush into sharing somethings, with out doing that. I have done this many time when I was new to it. Also do not try to be prophetic and listen to the enemy for info, because the enemy lies, but there might be truth in with the lies, but that would be to mislead a person. Many Christians trying to use the Holy Spirit gifts to do this, I have done this, but I learned from it and take the time to see I do it correctly now. Also guessing would be incorrect. Some just try to figure things out with their mind and just guess the rest and act like it is prophetic. I am learning and still can make mistakes, that is why I tell people something like "do not just believe me because it sounds good, you should pray about it and let God show if it is true." If someone calling themselves a prophet and saying trusts me, it should be a warning flag. We should never just trust a person, but only God , because humans make miss takes. This is just some insight for whom it might help. Please add to this or share what you think is good for people to know to help people understand the Holy Spirits gifts.

eXric · Apr 9, 2023

Fundaamental said:

We just differ somewhat on what to call things.

Comparing God's mind or body to a human body just does not sound good to me. I think as humans, people like to see it that way, that God is like us. I am ok with you doing that. I just describe it a different way. I do believe God can take on a physical body on earth, but would like to think it is not made of flesh, but to just look that way. This is just a different way of describing something. That is why I asked you to describe it, is to understand your definition as you describe it. Trying to understand someone's ideas about what they share thru asking question. Not here to find faults, but to understand. I do sometimes sound like I am finding faults and maybe I am to some small degree. If i do and someone points it out I would say sorry. This forum is for people that do find faults. As for reincarnation I disagree with you, but not going to make a fuzz about it. Maybe I just do not understand what you mean by it. I can agree with some of the OP of Blain is about, but disagree with things that I think are unbiblical, but I just talk to him about things like that to understand better. I point out things that look bad, and things that others might find as bad. This forum has people that are aggressive and I can understand to some degree why. That might be why some of my post might sound that way too. If you what to try to share what you think about reincarnation, maybe I will understand more. I would not advise posting it here, but just PM it.

Fundaamental · Apr 9, 2023

eXric said:

This is great insight, and yes your right, the gift of prophecy can be mistaken for feeling you must be a profit, As Well the spirit can speak through people,

People get preminitions things are going to happen to, befor they happen, but again can you associate that to you must be a profit,

I haven't called myself a prophet once, but then I have wondered if God wants me to be one.

Yep all along in this thread I have withheld about my experiences, because I don't know if I'm one,
Blain has suggested I could be.

The day the spirit came upon people on the day of Pentecost people all started to speak in strange languages, this proves the spirit can speak through you but your not necessarily a profit.

But I really do see events befor they unfold, and I ask God about it and all that comes back to me is the spirit of prophecy, I feel if he had made me a prophet he would have said so.

But the events I see befor they happen mess with my head daily.

Every think from the twin towers coming down to major storms, to accidents to major events happening to dreams coming true.
To daily events happen to me.

God made us in his image he sees the past present and future, maybe some people are more tuned to it and see it more than others.

I could have some type of empathy others don't to but I really don't want it. In all honesty I hate it.

Fundaamental · Apr 9, 2023

eXric said:

We just differ somewhat on what to call things.

Comparing God's mind or body to a human body just does not sound good to me. I think as humans, people like to see it that way, that God is like us. I am ok with you doing that. I just describe it a different way. I do believe God can take on a physical body on earth, but would like to think it is not made of flesh, but to just look that way. This is just a different way of describing something. That is why I asked you to describe it, is to understand your definition as you describe it. Trying to understand someone's ideas about what they share thru asking question. Not here to find faults, but to understand. I do sometimes sound like I am finding faults and maybe I am to some small degree. If i do and someone points it out I would say sorry. This forum is for people that do find faults. As for reincarnation I disagree with you, but not going to make a fuzz about it. Maybe I just do not understand what you mean by it. I can agree with some of the OP of Blain is about, but disagree with things that I think are unbiblical, but I just talk to him about things like that to understand better. I point out things that look bad, and things that others might find as bad. This forum has people that are aggressive and I can understand to some degree why. That might be why some of my post might sound that way too. If you what to try to share what you think about reincarnation, maybe I will understand more. I would not advise posting it here, but just PM it.

Lol I didn't compare it to a human body, you did.

eXric · Apr 9, 2023

Fundaamental said:

Well I will try to answer some thing.
First God does not force people to do this stuff. God does not give us a spirit of confusion. If a person is unsure of it in their heart, more then likely they are not called by God to be a prophet. Being tuned in to the supernatural does not mean it is God's will that person is called. A human can be trained to be in tuned with the supernatural for good or evil. I believe the enemy uses this to get followers. Even tries to fake the Holy Spirit to get those that are not aware. Charismatic church are sometimes also open to the supernatural with out discernment and the enemy hunts there. this sort of means even non- Christians can act prophetic and get accurate words. say they are a prophet and the enemy will help them, to hurt as many people as they can. The Holy Spirit of truth will show who is who. I meet people that are non-Christian saying they are prophets, also knowing the bible very well. One was a pastor's son knew it very well, more then enough to fool many. Some say the enemy knows the bible very well. If a person is well studied in the bible they might see the deception. Study hard people that do not have the Holy Spirit gift of discernment.

I would like to define those that he call to be a prophet and those that are just doing a prophets type Job. Also some are more tuned in then others. Your life sounds strange and I can not tell at this point, what you are or what you are not. Interesting stories, and do not know at this point, what to say about them. If God calls someone to be a prophet they will have God's approval and the Holy Spirit will show that it is true. I think this is rare. Most of the time if a person gets something from the Holy Spirit about something that person will think that they might be a prophet for some amount of time. Some people just say they are with out much thought about it(more extrovert types). Others struggle with the idea( more introverted. either way they will start to share these experiences with people with mix reactions from others. If they get things from the Holy Spirit it will be close and get more accurate as time goes on. That more then likely gets them noticed, and get the reputation as a prophet, asked for or not. If church leader believes it is true they look to that person as a prophet. This would be a person that is doing the Job of a prophet in that church. Does not take much prophetic looking stuff to get to this point, because that church body wants to believe they have a prophet, so they help it along. this person overtime might enjoy this position and become selfish or selfless. selfish person doing a prophets job wants more attention and tends to get less from the Holy Spirit. Selfless one does the Job but also lets people know some way that he is just doing the job of a prophet and remains humble and maybe get more from the Holy Spirit over time. This can also happen to someone called by God to be a prophet. I believe God will be more active in guiding this person, so might just happen faster weather they do good or bad. I believe God makes those he called to be a prophet in a way that there is something from the Holy Spirit to shown this is the case thru their life.

eXric · Apr 9, 2023

Fundaamental said:

I was refering to this thing you said.
"God has a living mind Just like you and I son, He made us in his image. His mind is a living physical mind so is yours, "

Quote what sounds to you like I was saying God and humans are the same.

Fundaamental · Apr 9, 2023

eXric said:

I haven't got a clue how somebody could tune them self's into the supernatural, but when it comes to relaxation, they say waiting patiently in hope that God will give you a message on how you can please him today, is a good way to tune your self into God's frequency.

God likes to be pleased by his servants bringing glory to his kingdom.

This is the only way I know how to tune myself in to the supernatural, Because God is supernatural,

But whether this opens some sort of frequency our friend blain talks about, I really don't know, but then I have had a gentle gust of wind come from absolutely no where on a calm day, befor a recieving a revelation.

I seem to be able to interpret prophecies in the bible Quite well to but that means nothing because the prophecies of the future could be spiritual or carnal. It's hard to tell which in some prophecies,

But God I feel calls a person to be a prophet through the holy spirit.
And the prophecy I feel needs to be witnessed by a witness or two, for it to be true, and the prophecy needs to come true, befor anyone can say they where called to be a prophet from the holy spirit.

But then does it mean your going to be called to be a prophet again after that ?.

The prophecy was for the Glory of God.

The holy spirit could even now call you to be a prophet in front of Two witnesses who are in need of believing in God's kingdom.

The holy spirit is Just going to speak through you, because you've sat in hope asking the holy spirit to speak for you. Then two people have witnessed it and the prophecy came true.

But then after that you never ever get another calling because your not putting yourself into place where people need to help with believing in God, like my family did.

Do you see where I'm coming from, that even if you have been called to be a prophet it doesn't mean you are still a prophet afterwards.

Your only a prophet because the holy spirit spoke through you.

Niki7 · Apr 9, 2023

ThyKingdomComeSoon said:

Niki,
please remember that in the end times which is currently starting, young men will have visions and old men will have dreams. we are at the beginning of the end times. so yes people can have visions and dreams about coming events, i certainly did and still have but that is maybe for another post. Blain is not the only one.

Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Joe 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

By the way, that should be Joel and not Joe. Take heed you are not deceived. Nowhere in scripture are we told that the fallen angels became demons.

Magenta · Apr 9, 2023

Niki7 said:

I don't care for the practice myself, but some places shorten the author's name to three letters. James become Jas, for example.

Fundaamental · Apr 9, 2023

eXric said:

let's forget about reincarnation. And concentrate on scripture do you know about the unjust Judge being a profit ?.

Niki7 · Apr 9, 2023

Perhaps actually read what myself and others have posted concerning the thread and the author thereof and you will soon find that we do not suffer from ignorance concerning either prophecy or what the Bible contains and says about it.

Further, concerning demons, there is not scripture or passage that even hints at fallen angels becoming demons.

It was Easter Sunday today and Jesus was basically ignored in this thread. I am also going to ignore the thread going forward.

Ted01 · Apr 9, 2023

Magenta said:

I call him Jimmy...

eXric · Apr 9, 2023

Fundaamental said:

Not sure but some places in your post you seem to use prophet, when it would make more sense to say prophesy. Let me know if I got that wrong. What follows this is the part I am talking about.

"But God I feel calls a person to be a prophet through the holy spirit. maybe this sentence.
And the prophecy I feel needs to be witnessed by a witness or two, for it to be true, and the prophecy needs to come true, befor anyone can say they where called to be a prophet from the holy spirit. maybe in this sentence
Do you see where I'm coming from, that even if you have been called to be a prophet it doesn't mean you are still a prophet afterwards. did you mean to say, called to prophecy some thing. Not sure if I am follow what you are saying. What I mean by called by God thru the Holy Spirit it is permanent. Birth to death. if God wants someone to do a prophetic prophecy thing, I do not think it is the same as called. If God wanted to share something that he gives them from the Holy Spirit gift of prophecy, it would not make that person a prophet. Done many times people might say that person is a prophet. A person is Called to be a prophet by God or not. The rest is just talk.

God is supernatural but so is the enemy, right?

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