If a desire is a want, and unrequited love is a want of the fulfillment of it, then I obviously have wanted of your meaning at some point, even if I give up on obtaining it.
What Does It Mean That God Desires All People To Be Saved?
- Thread starter Cameron143
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Why does my point require God to act to the Uttermost ?
It does require Him to act in a justifiable manner to a reasonable extent.. Not to an unjustified extent..
You gave two choices.. It does not mean God is restricted to your two choices..
Actually, the second choice has a veritable plethora of options, which was my point.
God created "hell." So He has already done something in this view. He set it up that way, knowing some would fail.
He desires the elect to follow his commandments, but does he act upon it? I would say, yes, If the elect do not follow his commandments, he chastens them.
I don't believe that God chastens the non-elect, according to Psalms 73. He only chastens those that he loves. What do you think?
Well, He is omniscient. But what I was referring to wasn't God's total inactivity; merely His personal and intimate activity towards an individual.
If you would give up on depending on works for your eternal deliverance, your mind function would be the same as mine.
I agree. But I'm only asking about His desire that all be saved. Is this a real desire? And if so, is God required to act upon it for it to be genuine?
You are getting close, but you are not there yet! Repenting of breaking one of God's spiritual laws is a choice that only the born again can make.
The natural man, according to 1 Cor 2:14 will not, and indeed, cannot make a choice to repent of breaking a spiritual law that he cannot discern, thinking that is foolishness.
A Shot in the dark, here, but I'd assume the meaning to be that "God desires all people to be saved".
After all, that's what it says.
Why can't Calvinists see that what they believe is a direct denial of scripture?
1 Tim 2:4 ESV who [God] desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Because God knew that all of mankind would fall, is the reason he choose most of them not to fall.
I have never depended on works for salvation, and my mind definitely does not function like yours.
Ridiculous.
I pray to God that no one else here ends up where you are.
Most of God's well intended children, as yourself, deny the scriptures, by holding onto the old law of works to get them to heaven.
Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to charge some in the church that they teach no other doctrine.
The "we" in 1 Tim 2:2, has reference to the church at Ephesus. Timothy even includes himself in telling them to pray for all men in authority over them that the church may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
The "all men" in verse 4, has reference to those men, in the church at Ephesus, who are teaching another doctrine (probably the old law of works), so that they might be saved (delivered) from their ignorance of the gospel. There is a deliverance (salvation here in time) when a born again child of God comes unto a knowledge of the truth.
The letters you have put in red, has reference to those in the church at Ephesus who are teaching another doctrine.