Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace
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The natural man cant understand it spiritually, because it must be spiritually discerned. Explain to us how a spiritually dead person, without the Spirit, can spiritually understand the Gospel. Not naturally understand it, but spiritually understand it.
It must must be Spiritually understood to bear Spiritual fruit such as faith, Jesus said Matt 13:23
23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
Now explain please.
It must must be Spiritually understood to bear Spiritual fruit such as faith, Jesus said Matt 13:23
23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
Now explain please.
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@Snacks has the true Christ Jesus, full of grace and truth, you sir do not, so no he is not an idolator.
Christ Jesus is the Saviour of all mankind, and each person can receive or reject His free gift of salvation by grace through faith!!
He suffered for all, even knowing many would reject Him.
This is the Christ of scripture, not the one you portray who only died for those He chooses to redeem and denying salvation to others based on what, no one knows, just luck of the draw I guess. smh!!!
That is indeed a false Christ!!
So who is an idolator, really?
Christ Jesus is the Saviour of all mankind, and each person can receive or reject His free gift of salvation by grace through faith!!
He suffered for all, even knowing many would reject Him.
This is the Christ of scripture, not the one you portray who only died for those He chooses to redeem and denying salvation to others based on what, no one knows, just luck of the draw I guess. smh!!!
That is indeed a false Christ!!
So who is an idolator, really?
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@HeIsHere Thank you for your kind words and for defending the Gospel Truth. ❤️
The story of the Phoenician woman’s faith as found in Mark 7 shows that Jesus died for everyone, even though many would reject Him.
The spirit of these calvinists is not of God. Remember that while conversing with them.
The story of the Phoenician woman’s faith as found in Mark 7 shows that Jesus died for everyone, even though many would reject Him.
The spirit of these calvinists is not of God. Remember that while conversing with them.
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Oh Plaaeeese - this is a simple question for you to resolve. You either can post what the mystery is - the one not covered by the gospel - or you can't. If you can then why don't do so one last time, cause I must have missed your other posting of it, and then we all can know it - it would be very Christian and edifying of you to do so.
Yes, I remember your attempt(s) to invalidate scripture by ignoring its stated rules of interpretation,
thereby causing you to come to numerous incorrect conclusions - which is something that you often do.
Remember this?
[Phl 2:13 KJV] 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.
Guess, you didn't want to recognize that God works within someone to bring forth His desired ends for them to include their "turning".
Anyway, so as not to get diverted, why do you just answer my first question.
Yes, I remember your attempt(s) to invalidate scripture by ignoring its stated rules of interpretation,
thereby causing you to come to numerous incorrect conclusions - which is something that you often do.
Remember this?
[Phl 2:13 KJV] 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.
Guess, you didn't want to recognize that God works within someone to bring forth His desired ends for them to include their "turning".
Anyway, so as not to get diverted, why do you just answer my first question.
John Gill (23 November 1697 – 14 October 1771) ... held to a firm Calvinistic soteriology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gill_(theologian)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gill_(theologian)
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I can and I did ... you rejected then just as you reject now.
you didn't miss it ... you gave it a red X.
it would be "very Christian and edifying of you" to go back through the pages of this thread, find it, and re-read it.
Your rejection of the truth of Scripture does not equal that of which you accuse me.
interesting you refuse to acknowledge the verse just before Phil 2:13:
Philippians 2:
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
"Guess, you didn't want to recognize that God works within someone" as they work out [their] own salvation.
Since you already have what you need, why don't you just go back through the discussion and re-read to find your answer.
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you didn't miss it ... you gave it a red X.
it would be "very Christian and edifying of you" to go back through the pages of this thread, find it, and re-read it.
Your rejection of the truth of Scripture does not equal that of which you accuse me.
interesting you refuse to acknowledge the verse just before Phil 2:13:
Philippians 2:
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
"Guess, you didn't want to recognize that God works within someone" as they work out [their] own salvation.
Since you already have what you need, why don't you just go back through the discussion and re-read to find your answer.
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No, that means regardless of where one might begin, that God will nevertheless bring them to His desired ends for them.
Did you miss the "both to will and to do" "of his good pleasure" parts?
That is, God will direct a person's will so that they desire to, and do, what He wants them to do.
That includes "turning"
Try to read more closely next time.
Did you miss the "both to will and to do" "of his good pleasure" parts?
That is, God will direct a person's will so that they desire to, and do, what He wants them to do.
That includes "turning"
Try to read more closely next time.
Jesus' death is sufficient to cover the sins of the whole world which He died for, but efficacious
only unto those who by grace through faith believe in His shed righteous blood for the forgiveness
of sins in order to be reconciled to God, escape the second death, and attain to life ever after.
only unto those who by grace through faith believe in His shed righteous blood for the forgiveness
of sins in order to be reconciled to God, escape the second death, and attain to life ever after.
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