Methodist Church continues to split.

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Zandar

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Zandar

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I think this needs discussed in every church. History is being made right now in the church world and I still haven't heard a peep from a single person on this whole thing. It's amazing how we as American Christians can simply stick our heads in the sand and wish everyone well. I just don't get it.
 

Nehemiah6

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History is being made right now in the church world and I still haven't heard a peep from a single person on this whole thing.
What is anyone going to say? It is the leadership of those apostate denominations who choose to disregard Scripture and introduce false doctrines and false practices into their churches. Even if many protest they refuse to back off. Once people choose what is unbiblical, they never repent and get back to the truth. So those who know the truth have no choice except to move on. This apostasy is not something new. All the mainline denominations chose to bring in heresies. And now even the evangelical churches are moving away from Bible truth and Gospel Truth.
 

Zandar

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It's just so sad. How did it come to this? No one in the 90s ever thought, when I have kids I'll need to teach them that homo is a sin. It's like the church world was blind sided by this and hadn't prepaired their minds for such an attack.
 

ResidentAlien

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I've been encouraged by some of the news I've been hearing about people disaffiliating from the UMC.

https://julieroys.com/judge-clears-way-for-disaffiliations-united-methodist-church-in-north-georgia/
 

Zandar

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I'm not a Methodist, but imagine having to leave your church that you watched your grandkids get married in. All those years spent there trying to help one another along.
 

Zandar

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FollowingtheWay

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My heart goes out to those being mislead by apostate churches. I think time will tell and separate the true saints from the mislead. My favorite new sayings are
1. Truth invites scrutiny
2.The same Lord God who calls me to love calls me to stand.
3. Heart of compassion/backbone of steel

Not my original sayings but took them from various ministries I follow.
 

Zandar

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I like that.

It's not easy going against the world. They are quick to point out our faults, accuse us of hypocrisy and being 'mean spirited' which I guess is a woke sin.
 

Artios1

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I think this needs discussed in every church. History is being made right now in the church world and I still haven't heard a peep from a single person on this whole thing. It's amazing how we as American Christians can simply stick our heads in the sand and wish everyone well. I just don't get it.
I peep with Nehemiah6
 

Zandar

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lol. thats good. I haven't heard anything at my local church, my family, my workplace friends, my friends nor anyone online. Only the news media of all things.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I think this needs discussed in every church. History is being made right now in the church world and I still haven't heard a peep from a single person on this whole thing. It's amazing how we as American Christians can simply stick our heads in the sand and wish everyone well. I just don't get it.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I no longer subscribe to any Christian news publications, so it's the first time I have heard about that.
Praise the Lord!
I attended a service of a UMC a long time ago as an invitation from a student who was singing a special. They had a building like a palace built of huge cut stones, a pipe organ and music director from the university band.
Then I witnessed the pouring of water on a baby that they called baptism.
I saw a woman pastor and another who called himself reverend. They used a false bible. He explained what he thought that people must do to be saved and the message was based upon the works of the individual.

I can but only guess that there were some saved people who attend. If they are, then the Holy Spirit would make known to their spirit as well as through His Holy Word that they should leave and find a good church. A good church is not based on the size, decor, organization. A church that doesn't even have a saved pastor should be left for one that does. That's why I praise the Lord for a mass exodus. I just hope that the Lord's churches will reach them with the good news.
 

Zandar

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Maybe a lot of those folks will wind up in a much better church.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Maybe a lot of those folks will wind up in a much better church.
I sure hope so. Right now they are followers of the spiritually blind and as sheep having no shepherd.
They are more likely to when believers get out to share the gospel.
Someone cared enough about me when I was a teenager to tell me what the Bible says is required to go to heaven. Then I decided to check it out in my own KJV Bible after he left. I realized that I had believed wrong my whole life, but decided to trust Christ alone instead of my good works. He invited me to come to church. Then my Mom took us to that good church. I think this is how the United Methodists will also start finding good churches. They will with our help.
 

LightOfMyLife

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God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality. It is a shame that there are churches that are falling for what God calls an abomination. These people should know better. The Bible says some shall depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons. These people seem to want to please people instead of who they say they believe in. We have false teachers promoting what God says is sin. He loves the sinner but hates the sin. We are to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness.
 

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What is anyone going to say? It is the leadership of those apostate denominations who choose to disregard Scripture and introduce false doctrines and false practices into their churches. Even if many protest they refuse to back off. Once people choose what is unbiblical, they never repent and get back to the truth. So those who know the truth have no choice except to move on. This apostasy is not something new. All the mainline denominations chose to bring in heresies. And now even the evangelical churches are moving away from Bible truth and Gospel Truth.
This is true, how ever God knows his children are, and we shall stand. and GOD does have a way of reviling him self, to how really loves him, when God starts to manifesting his glory thew his body, then the world will see, remember revival just started, God is just getting started,
 

Magenta

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This has been going on for quite some time. In Canada the United church has an openly gay moderator
(head of their church). I just now looked it up and discovered an article from 2015 saying they have their
second openly gay mod. Douglas Todd says,
"Well, maybe it’s not news any more. But the liberal United
Church of Canada, the country’s largest Protestant denomination, today elected a lesbian minister as
moderator. She is Rev. Jordan Cantwell of Saskatchewan."
source There were also stories some time
back about a UC minister who was an atheist
.:oops::censored:. Gretta Vosper was her name, and she did not want
to give up her position, even though she was an atheist; she thought she was well suited to lead Christians
.:eek:
Her public statement that the belief in a supernatural God promoted hatred led the
United Church of Canada to institute an official review of her suitability as a minister.
(wiki)
 

Magenta

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The United Church was formed in 1925 by the merger of two large Canadian denominations,
the Methodists and the Presbyterians, as well as the much smaller Congregationalists.
Although only two-thirds of the Presbyterians joined the union (the rest carried on as the
Presbyterian Church in Canada), the United Church still began its life as the largest Protestant
church in Canada. In most parts of the country, nearly every small town has a United Church,
often with names like “Knox” and “Wesley” that reflect their Presbyterian or Methodist origins.
The story of the United Church is a sobering one. It’s a reminder that strategies formed out of
human wisdom rarely work out the way we intend, especially when they leave behind “the faith
once for all delivered to the saints” (Jude 3). That’s a faith worth contending for.
source

I still haven't heard a peep from a single person on this whole thing.
PS~ I have posted about the United Church of Canada numerous times in my almost eight years here .:)
 

HealthAndHappiness

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This has been going on for quite some time. In Canada the United church has an openly gay moderator
(head of their church). I just now looked it up and discovered an article from 2015 saying they have their
second openly gay mod. Douglas Todd says,
"Well, maybe it’s not news any more. But the liberal United
Church of Canada, the country’s largest Protestant denomination, today elected a lesbian minister as
moderator. She is Rev. Jordan Cantwell of Saskatchewan."
source There were also stories some time
back about a UC minister who was an atheist
.:oops::censored:. Gretta Vosper was her name, and she did not want
to give up her position, even though she was an atheist; she thought she was well suited to lead Christians
.:eek:
Her public statement that the belief in a supernatural God promoted hatred led the
United Church of Canada to institute an official review of her suitability as a minister.
(wiki)
The only thing that comes to mind is that Hillary Clinton said she wanted to become an ordained minister. I thought, 🤔 hmmm, of a witches coven. Now I see that she would be qualified for a couple of large denominations. 😄
 

Magenta

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The only thing that comes to mind is that Hillary Clinton said she wanted to become an ordained minister.
I thought, 🤔 hmmm, of a witches coven. Now I see that she would be qualified for a couple of large denominations. 😄
In 2016 I did a fair amount of research on H&B Clinton, and discovered a lot of reasons to consider them evil .:censored:

Part of her campaign speeches included saying things about the need to eradicate
old fashioned ideas, the intent of which was a thinly veiled attack against Christianity,
as if people have outgrown a need for God and/or Godly wisdom in their lives.