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HeIsHere

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If God moves, it will be the same internet that furnishes the gospel into every home around the world. In most places in this nation, there are churches on every corner, with plenty of room for growth. And it only takes a spark to begin any conflagration.
It's easy in our day and time to become pessimistic. But the gospel resounds with hope.

I agree with hope, most definitely, but I think the question is are better off for having the internet, I see a beautiful library down the street which is often almost empty.

The printed word does not affect us in the same way as the screen.
 

iamsoandso

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Just like when they started to complicate the old dial up phone bills and began to itemize out the charges in such a complicated manner that you couldn't understand it anymore. After that you couldn't tell if you were holding it upside down or not. It's just the same today with the MSM and social media in that it has become so complicated that some argue one source is truth while another is an lie. Others say the ones that the others say is a lie is the truth. One things for sure is that just like the phone bills we couldn't tell heads or tails about what came later was way more expensive(got worse) and so there's probably a reason why they've been pushing the fake news agenda,,,something like something really,really bad is about to take place and your not going to be able to understand who to blame for it because they made you not be able to know who was telling the truth just like with the phone bill.
 

ZNP

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Indeed. Because it’s a loud megaphone for any voice to say the craziest thing.
Before the internet you could never do this because the stupidity was localized and small, whereas now it’s pervasive.
Are you talking about Dr. Fauci?
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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I believe that these types of topics are entertaining, like flat earthers and I believe that the internet has been the worst thing for humanity. I also believe that very few people in the world can look at things without bias and an open mind.
The internet has destroyed rationale.
the internet has not destroyed rationale, it is the lack of general knowledge that is responsible. The internet is simply a source of information the key is to have knowledge and discernment. It is harder and harder to find any truth on the internet it is why you see these fact checkers that almost invariably hide the truth instead of promoting it. As far as I am concerned, I double even triple check with proper source of information and have to understand it fully before making an opinion, all I have posted here can be verified. The knowledge I posses is in medical science, vaccine design, immunology, molecular biology, cancer research over 35 years experience in academia.
 

Eli1

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the internet has not destroyed rationale, it is the lack of general knowledge that is responsible. The internet is simply a source of information the key is to have knowledge and discernment. It is harder and harder to find any truth on the internet it is why you see these fact checkers that almost invariably hide the truth instead of promoting it. As far as I am concerned, I double even triple check with proper source of information and have to understand it fully before making an opinion, all I have posted here can be verified. The knowledge I posses is in medical science, vaccine design, immunology, molecular biology, cancer research over 35 years experience in academia.
Oh you’re the OP? I never looked at your original message to be honest because I never take any of these extreme topics seriously.
I don’t usually write a lot in this forum, I mostly watch but today I have a lot of free time and I’m generous. :cool:

So first of all you say that one needs discernment which I absolutely agree with.

Now, let’s being with your OP.
First of all you claim that “the end is near”.
Now, if you’ve read the Bible it clearly says that nobody except The Father knows when the end is coming.
Yet, you say that the “end is near”. Why would you say this? Where is your discernment?

Secondly, you say that you trust some doctor who apparently knows that the human genome is now corrupted.
Why would you trust that one doctor and not the majority of the doctors? Does that mean that the majority do not know how to do their job? Does this include you? Where is your discernment here?

Third, assuming you and that doctor have the keys to the kingdom and knowledge and we’re all dumb, why would medication side-effects be news to you? They exist even in an Advil or Tylenol. Again, where is your discernment here?

Then you also say that this is equal to the times of Noah, again making false end-time predictions which we known from the Bible are not true.

So why would you say all these things? Are you a doctor or a MAGATS?
 

ZNP

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Now, let’s being with your OP.
First of all you claim that “the end is near”.
Now, if you’ve read the Bible it clearly says that nobody except The Father knows when the end is coming.
Yet, you say that the “end is near”. Why would you say this? Where is your discernment?
The Lord said when we see all these things take place like the Jews returning to Israel, and telecommunications with fiber optic cables, and AI, and RFID chips inserted into your hand to buy things, that we would know the time is at hand:

Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

I think you are confused, the Lord told Sardis that if they didn't repent and watch that they would not know what hour He would come.

3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
 

Eli1

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The Lord said when we see all these things take place like the Jews returning to Israel, and telecommunications with fiber optic cables, and AI, and RFID chips inserted into your hand to buy things, that we would know the time is at hand:

Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

I think you are confused, the Lord told Sardis that if they didn't repent and watch that they would not know what hour He would come.

3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
This is hilarious in many levels. For 2 reasons.

First is because knowing your post history and your extreme views and beliefs in conspiracy theories and false end time predictions no one is able to reach to you on a logical level anymore. You have spent years of your life here expressing your extreme views which are nothing but entertainment at this point.
Yet, i still like you because you donated money to children in Africa.

Secondly, the eternal protestant debate begins. Where one pits a verse versus another verse and everyone talks past each other.
 

ZNP

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This is hilarious in many levels. For 2 reasons.

First is because knowing your post history and your extreme views and beliefs in conspiracy theories and false end time predictions no one is able to reach to you on a logical level anymore. You have spent years of your life here expressing your extreme views which are nothing but entertainment at this point.
Yet, i still like you because you donated money to children in Africa.

Secondly, the eternal protestant debate begins. Where one pits a verse versus another verse and everyone talks past each other.
So a non response response.

Ezekiel 2:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day.

4 For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto them; and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God.

5 And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, (for they are a rebellious house,) yet shall know that there hath been a prophet among them.

6 And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.

7 And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear: for they are most rebellious.
 

Eli1

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So a non response response.

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Yes, let’s keep our relationship on a meme level.
‘I’m waiting to see what this other doctor says (op) and I’m hoping he’s not a Republican “dr” Fauci.
 

iamsoandso

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Oh you’re the OP? I never looked at your original message to be honest because I never take any of these extreme topics seriously.
I don’t usually write a lot in this forum, I mostly watch but today I have a lot of free time and I’m generous. :cool:

So first of all you say that one needs discernment which I absolutely agree with.

Now, let’s being with your OP.
First of all you claim that “the end is near”.
Now, if you’ve read the Bible it clearly says that nobody except The Father knows when the end is coming.
Yet, you say that the “end is near”. Why would you say this? Where is your discernment?

Secondly, you say that you trust some doctor who apparently knows that the human genome is now corrupted.
Why would you trust that one doctor and not the majority of the doctors? Does that mean that the majority do not know how to do their job? Does this include you? Where is your discernment here?

Third, assuming you and that doctor have the keys to the kingdom and knowledge and we’re all dumb, why would medication side-effects be news to you? They exist even in an Advil or Tylenol. Again, where is your discernment here?

Then you also say that this is equal to the times of Noah, again making false end-time predictions which we known from the Bible are not true.

So why would you say all these things? Are you a doctor or a MAGATS?


Just an observation but if the vaccine that was created via Operation Warp Speed actually changed your body forever and Donald Trump is the very one who created the program and endorsed giving it to us(and the world) then MAGATS and DT are actually on opposite side of the vaccine issue. Donald Trump not only set the vaccine program into motion he takes it himself and suggest others do also. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed just saying this because of the way you used MAGATS as an synonym of anti-vaccine(their actually opposites)
 

ZNP

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Beware the leaven of the Pharisees which is hypocrisy

12 In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

Why is is hypocritical? They come onto forums without reading the posts, mock others and then lecture them on “discernment”.

They will pretend to be someone important, lecturing you on the word of God, and then when challenged with Bible verses that clearly destroy their doctrine, become insulting and pretend it is not possible to reason like Bereans so turn tail and run.

They know they can only intimidate those who don’t know the word of God and so shine a light on them from the word of God and they scatter like cockroaches.
 

iamsoandso

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Yea,,,we're Make America Great Again Trump Supporters we hate the vaccine he is pushing and stand against everything it represents,,,that's why if he's nominated in 2024 we're gonna vote for him again... lol,makes a lot of sense right?
 

Eli1

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Just an observation but if the vaccine that was created via Operation Warp Speed actually changed your body forever and Donald Trump is the very one who created the program and endorsed giving it to us(and the world) then MAGATS and DT are actually on opposite side of the vaccine issue. Donald Trump not only set the vaccine program into motion he takes it himself and suggest others do also. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed just saying this because of the way you used MAGATS as an synonym of anti-vaccine(their actually opposites)
Sorry, I used “magats” as a funny term here to describe anti-intellectualism, tribal, extremism, non-logical, feeling-based trends in certain percentage of the population.
I really don’t know what people get out of these doomsday end time predictions.
Again, I link this to boredom and The Internet Especially in western societies where we generally live comfortable lives.
Try living in another region or in a different time for perspective. Like say during ww2 when my grandfather was alive and they struggled to eat … or or … during the plague in Europe where millions died like flies because of a virus simply because back then people didn’t even have the concept of triage and sterilization .

But now with the internet everyone is an armchair expert, this is why this virus (covid) is the most politicized virus I’ve ever seen in my life.
When we were kids we took all kinds of vaccines and nobody made a fuss about it, but stupidity began around 2005 when some parents started to become vocal about the vaccines on the internet.
Now, we’re here being alarmists about anything …cos we’re all bored.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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Oh you’re the OP? I never looked at your original message to be honest because I never take any of these extreme topics seriously.
I don’t usually write a lot in this forum, I mostly watch but today I have a lot of free time and I’m generous. :cool:

So first of all you say that one needs discernment which I absolutely agree with.

Now, let’s being with your OP.
First of all you claim that “the end is near”.
Now, if you’ve read the Bible it clearly says that nobody except The Father knows when the end is coming.
Yet, you say that the “end is near”. Why would you say this? Where is your discernment?

Secondly, you say that you trust some doctor who apparently knows that the human genome is now corrupted.
Why would you trust that one doctor and not the majority of the doctors? Does that mean that the majority do not know how to do their job? Does this include you? Where is your discernment here?

Third, assuming you and that doctor have the keys to the kingdom and knowledge and we’re all dumb, why would medication side-effects be news to you? They exist even in an Advil or Tylenol. Again, where is your discernment here?

when i read your post this immediately came to mind;

Then you also say that this is equal to the times of Noah, again making false end-time predictions which we


So why would you say all these things? Are you a doctor or a MAGATS?
2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
 

Eli1

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2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Okay I see that you didn’t answer any of my questions and went straight into the Bible.
So let’s talk about the Bible or more importantly, YOUR interpretation of the Bible.

How do you reconcile all of the above with this:

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
 

ZNP

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2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Agreed. They are "willingly ignorant" that is great point!
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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Yes, let’s keep our relationship on a meme level.
‘I’m waiting to see what this other doctor says (op) and I’m hoping he’s not a Republican “dr” Fauci.
This is my very last reply to you;

Pro 9:7-8
Pro 9:7
One rebuking a scorner gets shame to himself; and one rebuking a wicked one gets himself a blemish.

Pro 9:8 Do not reprove a scorner, lest he hate you; give to a wise man, and he will love you.


I will pray for you that your knowledge of scripture improves.
 

Eli1

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This is my very last reply to you;

Pro 9:7-8
Pro 9:7
One rebuking a scorner gets shame to himself; and one rebuking a wicked one gets himself a blemish.

Pro 9:8 Do not reprove a scorner, lest he hate you; give to a wise man, and he will love you.


I will pray for you.
All right. :ROFL: And then you wonder why your extreme message doesn’t sell.