The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE
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I did you never saw it.
Why did you not see it.
Because
You had me on ignore
For a reasonable argument I put forward.
You can't accept
Because it goes against everything you know and believe.
If LGBTQ people choose to believe God has made them the way they are and still choose to love God, who can blame them when birth defects of intersex chromosomes are now proven.
Why did you not see it.
Because
You had me on ignore
For a reasonable argument I put forward.
You can't accept
Because it goes against everything you know and believe.
If LGBTQ people choose to believe God has made them the way they are and still choose to love God, who can blame them when birth defects of intersex chromosomes are now proven.
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mixed intersex chromosomes now proven
Sex and gender are not the same. Key differences include:
Sexual orientation is only determined by social values.
So the argument is for people with mixed intersex chromosomes should have the right to choose there identity based on how they feal inside when they get older, as a lot of cases can't be fully determined until puberty when they show signs.
This is why the law protects theese people.
- Mixed genitals and sex organs: A person who is intersex may have ovarian and testicular tissue (ovotestes). For example, you may have genitals that are associated with being assigned male at birth (AMAB), like a penis. At the same time, you may have internal reproductive anatomy or hormone levels more closely associated with being assigned female at birth (AFAB), like estrogen.
Sex and gender are not the same. Key differences include:
- Sex refers to the male or female label healthcare providers assigned you at birth based on your genitals. This label goes on birth certificates. Chromosomes, hormone levels and reproductive anatomy play roles in determining sex.
- Gender is a social construct based on societal or cultural beliefs about how people should act based on their sex.
- Gender identity refers to how your feel inside, regardless of the binary male or female label you were assigned at birth. It can influence how you choose to present yourself through your appearance and behaviors.
Sexual orientation is only determined by social values.
So the argument is for people with mixed intersex chromosomes should have the right to choose there identity based on how they feal inside when they get older, as a lot of cases can't be fully determined until puberty when they show signs.
This is why the law protects theese people.
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what about people born with mixed intersex chromosomes ?
Studies confirms it effects 1 in 100 people.
In very rare case babies are born with a mix of female and male genitals.
In the not so rare case it effects them differently from having a mix of tissue cells of both male and female.
In other cases it's not identified until later in. life.
If such a person feals they are more female than male inside or vice versa they can be granted a sex change by a hospital.
Which means what ?
They can not at this moment in time prove mixed intersex chromosomes effect there sexual orientation or gender.
But obviously recognise how they feel inside is important.
Studies confirms it effects 1 in 100 people.
In very rare case babies are born with a mix of female and male genitals.
In the not so rare case it effects them differently from having a mix of tissue cells of both male and female.
In other cases it's not identified until later in. life.
If such a person feals they are more female than male inside or vice versa they can be granted a sex change by a hospital.
Which means what ?
They can not at this moment in time prove mixed intersex chromosomes effect there sexual orientation or gender.
But obviously recognise how they feel inside is important.
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The full understanding of modern day persecution of LGBT people,
Argued by a certified church member
https://www.sthugh.net/lgbtq-affirming-scripture
Argued by a certified church member
https://www.sthugh.net/lgbtq-affirming-scripture
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Your just using scripture to condem LGBTQ, and you know you are.
Youve already used Sodom and gomorrah, which was about a bunch of crooks who wouldn't welcome strangers as well.
Which is a bit like you.
LGBTQ are also strangers
The passage you speak of people in Deuteronomy 23.1 could be about transgenders but it may not be.
Secondly the very next verse in Deuteronomy says bastards will not enter the assembly
Is that still the case ?.
Lastly there is the belief that the closest translation to transgenders is eunuchs
Mathew
19:12, while discussing divorce Jesus says, "for there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can." In other words, he acknowledges that eunuchs exist, but he does not condemn them
Then there's this
For thus says the Lord: To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, 5 I will give, in my house and within my walls, a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off.
Youve already used Sodom and gomorrah, which was about a bunch of crooks who wouldn't welcome strangers as well.
Which is a bit like you.
LGBTQ are also strangers
The passage you speak of people in Deuteronomy 23.1 could be about transgenders but it may not be.
Secondly the very next verse in Deuteronomy says bastards will not enter the assembly
Is that still the case ?.
Lastly there is the belief that the closest translation to transgenders is eunuchs
Mathew
19:12, while discussing divorce Jesus says, "for there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can." In other words, he acknowledges that eunuchs exist, but he does not condemn them
Then there's this
For thus says the Lord: To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, 5 I will give, in my house and within my walls, a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off.
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Genesis 19:1-13 The Sodom & Gomorrah story is preceded by examples of Abraham and Lot being very welcoming to strangers. The lack of hospitality and the desire to do violence to the visitors were considered grave transgressions, regardless of the gender of the visitors. The reference in Jude 1:7 to “strange flesh” likely refers to the fact that the angels they wanted to assault were not human. “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.” (Ezekiel 16:49)
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