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ZNP

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not the mantle but the top layer of earth 🙂
The concept of cooling violates the law concerning the conservation of energy. Either oil is an insulator or conductor
 

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The concept of cooling violates the law concerning the conservation of energy. Either oil is an insulator or conductor
it's a prevention of earth getting to dry where by more heat escapes more is one of my thoughts but also this

typically oil is used to remove surplus heat from an internal combustion engine. The hot engine transfers heat to the oil which then usually passes through a heat-exchanger, typically a type of radiator known as an oil cooler.
 

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So basically @ZNP no oil on earths top layer means the inability to transfer heat from the sun and let's more heat out from the mantle, you get a double whammy
 

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it's a prevention of earth getting to dry where by more heat escapes more is one of my thoughts but also this

typically oil is used to remove surplus heat from an internal combustion engine. The hot engine transfers heat to the oil which then usually passes through a heat-exchanger, typically a type of radiator known as an oil cooler.
In an oil cooler oil is simply something that conducts heat.
 

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So basically @ZNP no oil on earths top layer means the inability to transfer heat from the sun and let's more heat out from the mantle, you get a double whammy
So that is their theoretical process to explain this exponential increase? I think the gravitational impact of this Planet X system is far more plausible explanation. This explanation of removing oil from the crust would not explain the wobble of Earth's axis of rotation increasing significantly nor would it explain the wandering of the magnetic poles appearing to be ready to flip. So if you use this oil explanation you have to believe those other two things are simply coincidental.

I like to keep it simple, one simple explanation that explains all the observable phenomenon.
 

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So that is their theoretical process to explain this exponential increase? I think the gravitational impact of this Planet X system is far more plausible explanation. This explanation of removing oil from the crust would not explain the wobble of Earth's axis of rotation increasing significantly nor would it explain the wandering of the magnetic poles appearing to be ready to flip. So if you use this oil explanation you have to believe those other two things are simply coincidental.

I like to keep it simple, one simple explanation that explains all the observable phenomenon.
I will grant that gravitational pull could cause earthquakes especially since
earth is on a liquid a condensed mantle and ever so slightly shifting, it is plausible that this also causing volcanoes,

But have you thought that the volcanoes where first formed to let heat escape from those points only and no where else
 

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I will grant that gravitational pull could cause earthquakes especially since
earth is on a liquid a condensed mantle and ever so slightly shifting, it is plausible that this also causing volcanoes,

But have you thought that the volcanoes where first formed to let heat escape from those points only and no where else
Volcanoes move with time, look at the Hawaiian island chain, all of which are volcanoes.

Plate tectonics tells us the plates are conveyor belts. Look at India, it moved along the conveyor belt until it ran into Asia and formed the Himalayas, but when that happens we have new rifts like the rift valley in Africa open up.
 

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Volcanoes move with time, look at the Hawaiian island chain, all of which are volcanoes.

Plate tectonics tells us the plates are conveyor belts. Look at India, it moved along the conveyor belt until it ran into Asia and formed the Himalayas, but when that happens we have new rifts like the rift valley in Africa open up.
there only moving at 2.5 cm to maybe just over an inch a year tho. It can't fully account for global warming in my book
 

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What are tectonic plates? Tectonic plates are gigantic pieces of the earths crust and uppermost mantle.

They are made up of oceanic crust and continental crust. Earthquakes occur around mid-ocean ridges and the large faults which mark the edges of the plates.

The tectonic place are either moving away from each other or colliding.

If gravitation pull was fully causing this phenomena alone to move earth crust at the upper mantle there's a good chance it would rip the earth apart.

The gravitational pull will be more stonger with earths own centre of gravity it core.

The core pulls everything through gravitational pull to it's centre including me and you friend @ZNP.

But gravitational pull from out side sources would cause a tug of war between our earths centre of gravity gravitational pull and out side influences of gravitational pull.
 

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What are tectonic plates? Tectonic plates are gigantic pieces of the earths crust and uppermost mantle.

They are made up of oceanic crust and continental crust. Earthquakes occur around mid-ocean ridges and the large faults which mark the edges of the plates.

The tectonic place are either moving away from each other or colliding.

If gravitation pull was fully causing this phenomena alone to move earth crust at the upper mantle there's a good chance it would rip the earth apart.

The gravitational pull will be more stonger with earths own centre of gravity it core.

The core pulls everything through gravitational pull to it's centre including me and you friend @ZNP.

But gravitational pull from out side sources would cause a tug of war between our earths centre of gravity gravitational pull and out side influences of gravitational pull.
The gravitational pull on the earth will cause the core to heat up and thus increase the convection currents which are what is powering plate tectonics. Earth's gravity plays a role in Plate tectonics but quite obviously is not the sole force as the earth would quickly become flat and dead.

The Greek word Tectonics alludes to this. The Greeks realized there had to be another force contrary to gravity that built the mountains (Tectonic is the Greek word for builder). That force is now thought to be convection currents.
 

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What are tectonic plates? Tectonic plates are gigantic pieces of the earths crust and uppermost mantle.

They are made up of oceanic crust and continental crust. Earthquakes occur around mid-ocean ridges and the large faults which mark the edges of the plates.

The tectonic place are either moving away from each other or colliding.

If gravitation pull was fully causing this phenomena alone to move earth crust at the upper mantle there's a good chance it would rip the earth apart.

The gravitational pull will be more stonger with earths own centre of gravity it core.

The core pulls everything through gravitational pull to it's centre including me and you friend @ZNP.

But gravitational pull from out side sources would cause a tug of war between our earths centre of gravity gravitational pull and out side influences of gravitational pull.

If you start at about the 30 minute part in this
it shows how the actual volcano has erupted in a line because the continent is moving over it over time. It erupts, the continent moves then years later it erupts again over and over.
 

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If you start at about the 30 minute part in this
it shows how the actual volcano has erupted in a line because the continent is moving over it over time. It erupts, the continent moves then years later it erupts again over and over.
tell me what country your in so I can view this video 🙂
 

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The gravitational pull on the earth will cause the core to heat up and thus increase the convection currents which are what is powering plate tectonics. Earth's gravity plays a role in Plate tectonics but quite obviously is not the sole force as the earth would quickly become flat and dead.

The Greek word Tectonics alludes to this. The Greeks realized there had to be another force contrary to gravity that built the mountains (Tectonic is the Greek word for builder). That force is now thought to be convection currents.
I would agree with this theory and extremely bright 😎

Did you work this out for yourself. Just one thing you know that earths core has many layers of blankets, would you say that gravitational pulls from both sides only heats it up more.

But I am intrigued by your reasoning here.
 

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I would agree with this theory and extremely bright 😎

Did you work this out for yourself. Just one thing you know that earths core has many layers of blankets, would you say that gravitational pulls from both sides only heats it up more.

But I am intrigued by your reasoning here.
No the theory is based on the Planet X system (it is a brown dwarf star and a number of satellites around this star) it is on a very elliptical orbit and as it comes in around the sun it crosses our orbital path. The astronomers who discovered this had this theory. Occasionally the earth is near or even in the path as it will be in 2029. This is a big gravitational force passing close to the earth (at times) and that can cause an increase in volcanic activity as well as causing our axis of rotation to wobble and our magnetic field to flip).

There are verses in the Bible saying the earth will wobble like a drunkard, and of course a number of other verses like the sun stopping in the sky or wormwood.
 

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in the US, it's on YouTube so if you search it's title maybe it will show.
Thanks I enjoyed that video, I watched it all. Apparently Yellowstone is 40.000 years overdue a supper volcanoe, having watched it tho there is indication that volcanoes are permanent heat spots of the earth like I suggested earlier 🙂

But again could gravitation pull from external sources become stronger the more natural oil we take out of the ground, surely it would pull more heat out of the ground,
 

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The gravitational pull on the earth will cause the core to heat up and thus increase the convection currents which are what is powering plate tectonics. Earth's gravity plays a role in Plate tectonics but quite obviously is not the sole force as the earth would quickly become flat and dead.

The Greek word Tectonics alludes to this. The Greeks realized there had to be another force contrary to gravity that built the mountains (Tectonic is the Greek word for builder). That force is now thought to be convection currents.
I just wonder if the current situation of wanting to ban diesel petrol cars all together by 2030 to 2035 in the UK is because that something there telling us is to do with how much oil there pulling out of the ground, which is causing a change in nature
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/global-...lu-sinking-islands-rising-seas-climate-change

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One day we’ll disappear’: Tuvalu’s sinking islands
Rising seas are on the verge of swallowing two of the tiny archipelago’s nine islands, and the encroaching waves haunt locals’ dreams
Seascape: the state of our oceans.

Eleanor Ainge Roy in Tuvalu; photographs by Sean Gallagher
Thu 16 May 2019 04.51 EDT

On the hottest days, Leitu Frank feels like she can’t breathe any more. The housewife and mother of five decamps from her airless concrete home to catch the breeze in a simple wooden shack by the water’s edge. She folds washing and stares out at the unsettled turquoise sea, its moods and rhythms increasingly unpredictable, as its rising proximity threatens to strangle her family.
“The sea is eating all the sand,” says Frank, 32, dressed in a pink stretchy T-shirt and faded sarong.
“Before, the sand used to stretch out far, and when we swam we could see the sea floor, and the coral. Now, it is cloudy all the time, and the coral is dead. Tuvalu is sinking.”