Are our words: Powerless or Mighty Weapons?

[FlyingDove]

Our Words Convey: Life, Death, Rejection, Salvation.

Gen 1: God ""said"" & God saw it was good, 9 different times!

Ps 103:19-21 His angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments "hearkening unto the voice" of his word

Gen 1:3-4 And God ""said"" and there was light. And God saw that the light was good
(MY NOTE: (He "spoke" & His mighty angles went into motion "hearkening at His voice" at the commandment of His Word)

Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the "tongue" and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
(MY NOTE: Our words convey/declare/bring forth; Life & Death)

Ja 3:5 Even so the "tongue" is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

Job 22:28 Thou shalt also "decree a thing" and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways

Matt 7:7 "Ask" and it shall be given you; "seek", and ye shall find; "knock", and it shall be opened unto you
(A)sk
(S)eek
(K)nock

Pro 6:2 Thou art snared with the "words" of thy mouth, thou art taken with the "words" of thy mouth.

Pro 15:1 A soft "answer" turneth away wrath: but grievous "words" stir up anger.

Pro 18:4 The "words" of a man's mouth are as deep waters, and the wellspring of wisdom as a flowing brook.

Pro 21:23 Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles.

Pro 12:14 A man shall be satisfied with good by the fruit of his mouth

Pro 13:2 A man shall eat good by the fruit of his mouth

Pro 16:24 ""Pleasant words"" ""are as an honeycomb"", ""sweet to the soul""' and HEALTH to the BONES.
(MY NOTE: Spoken words of praise, optimism, love, forgiveness are HEALTH to the BONES!)

Pro 12:
14 A man shall be satisfied with good by the fruit of his mouth
(MY NOTE: Our SPOKEN words are seeds & we will eat the fruits of our speech.

God changed Abram (meaning high exalted father) to Abraham (meaning father of a multitude of nations) Gen 17:5. He did it by inserting the 5TH letter of the Hebrew alphabet H ("Hei") & the symbol for the number 5 = (Grace)

God changed Sarai (meaning my princess) to Sarah (mother of nations) Gen 17:15. He added "H" (Hei = Grace)

After 15 years of silence by God, while Abraham himself tried to make a seed for God. He became too old he GAVE UP.

One yr after God changes their names, Sarah is with child

Why? Their SPEACH confessions were changed. Every time they or anyone else SPOKE their NAMES. They declared: Abraham Father of a multitude of nations or Sarah mother of nations! SPOKEN words are SEEDS!

Jericho an unconquerable, walled city. Walls 11 feet high, 14 feet wide. The top a smooth stone slope, angling upward at 35 degrees for 35 feet. Its walls were thought to be impenetrable

Joshua 6:2 & 16 says, God had given the city of Jericho to them before they even began to march around its walls

God gives Joshua a two step plan to conquer. Have the people to march "silently" around Jericho for 6 days, & then on the 7th day, to blow trumpets & SHOUT.

On day 7, Before they blow & shout. Joshua Declares via the SPOKEN word: The Lord has this day given you this city. They blow & SHOUT & the walls tumble down

Why " march silently"? So, no complaining/negative WORDS/SPEACH couldn't get in the way

Luke 1:11 & 13 An angel comes to Zacharias & Elisabeth. Telling they will give birth to John the Baptist. Verse 18 Zacharias "Speaks Words of Doubt" & angel causes him to become dumb until the child born

Why? To keep Zachs negative WORDS of UNBELIEF from getting in the way!

Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the "tongue" and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
(MY NOTE: Our words powerful seeds & carry LIFE & DEATH! We will LIVE &/or DIE by what we SAY/SPEAK/BELIEVE!)

 

[studentoftheword]

Thread Title

Are our words: Powerless or Mighty Weapons?

Mighty Weapons I say -------Life and Death are in the power of the tongue --------

Our Tongue is very had to control ---it is something that takes very much practice -----


James 3

New International Version

Taming the Tongue

3 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.

3 When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal.

4 Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go.

5 Likewise, the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark.

6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.

7 All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and sea creatures are being tamed and have been tamed by mankind,

8 but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.

9 With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings, who have been made in God’s likeness.

10 Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be.

11 Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring?

12 My brothers and sisters, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.

 

[Karlon]

Psalm 16:8,9- "in have set the Lord always before me, i shall not be moved, therefore my heart is glad, my glory rejoiceth, my flesh shall rest in hope." Mark 16:18 can be applied.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

Of course they have power, but they don’t have divine power.

You can’t speak and command things into existence by speaking words. That’s the domain of God. Only Satan suggests we can BE LIKE God to that type of extent.

 

[studentoftheword]

Of course they have power, but they don’t have divine power.

I wouldn't be so sure about that ------

God Spoke Faith words and created this earth and all in it -------Are we not made in God's image -----God called those things that be not as though they were ---------and we are made in God's image as per scripture ------

God's Faith creates ------we confess our Faith by speaking words that we are Saved -----and then believe we are saved -----your Faith words bring the unseen into this seen realm --------

Hebrews 11:1 ESV
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.




From Strong's Concordance

"Faith is the divinely given conviction of things unseen"

Faith is the organ which enables people to see the invisible order

Scriptural faith is not our ability to ‘count it done,’ but is the deep consciousness divinely imparted to the heart of man that it is done, .

Faith is always a response to a divine revelation"

i say
Here you have Elijah speaking Faith words that there will be a drought -------He was calling those things that be not as though they were and it came to pass ------God's faith words create -----


1 Kings 17

New International Version

Elijah Announces a Great Drought
17 Now Elijah the Tishbite, from Tishbe[a] in Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the Lord, the God of Israel, lives, whom I serve, there will be neither dew nor rain in the next few years except at my word.”

I say -----Jesus understood the power of words -----He spoke to a thing ---a tree --fig tree and killed it dead ----and then said to the Disciples ---if you have Faith you can SAY __to this Mountain go throw yourself into the sea and if you believe ---it will be done ------so you can move mountains by speaking faith words ------

there is creative divine power in words folks -----positive words bring positive results ----negative words bring negative results -----

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

I wouldn't be so sure about that ------

God Spoke Faith words and created this earth and all in it -------Are we not made in God's image -----God called those things that be not as though they were ---------and we are made in God's image as per scripture ------

God's Faith creates ------we confess our Faith by speaking words that we are Saved -----and then believe we are saved -----your Faith words bring the unseen into this seen realm --------

Hebrews 11:1 ESV
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.


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From Strong's Concordance

"Faith is the divinely given conviction of things unseen"

Faith is the organ which enables people to see the invisible order

Scriptural faith is not our ability to ‘count it done,’ but is the deep consciousness divinely imparted to the heart of man that it is done, .

Faith is always a response to a divine revelation"

i say
Here you have Elijah speaking Faith words that there will be a drought -------He was calling those things that be not as though they were and it came to pass ------God's faith words create -----


1 Kings 17

New International Version

Elijah Announces a Great Drought
17 Now Elijah the Tishbite, from Tishbe[a] in Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the Lord, the God of Israel, lives, whom I serve, there will be neither dew nor rain in the next few years except at my word.”

I say -----Jesus understood the power of words -----He spoke to a thing ---a tree --fig tree and killed it dead ----and then said to the Disciples ---if you have Faith you can SAY __to this Mountain go throw yourself into the sea and if you believe ---it will be done ------so you can move mountains by speaking faith words ------

there is creative divine power in words folks -----positive words bring positive results ----negative words bring negative results -----

You’re severely hyper-extending the created in God’’s image idea. Might as well say we can blow on dirt and create life. After all, that’s what God did and we are created in his image.

 

[studentoftheword]

You’re severely hyper-extending the created in God’’s image idea.

And your severely downgrading God's word ---and How His Faith Works -----so sad for you ------so believe as you will and limit yourself in your own theology -----

You don't want to know the truth ---you just want to be right ---so sad for you ----

I guess you have never hoped for a thing in your life -----as when you hope for a thing --that is in the future ----your hope is unseen ---you tell your friends what your hoping for----and you get your hope manifested in this physical realm -----your calling your hope into existence that was unseen ------

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

And your severely downgrading God's word ---and How His Faith Works -----so sad for you ------so believe as you will and limit yourself in your own theology -----

You don't want to know the truth ---you just want to be right ---so sad for you ----

I guess you have never hoped for a thing in your life -----as when you hope for a thing --that is in the future ----your hope is unseen ---you tell your friends what your hoping for----and you get your hope manifested in this physical realm -----your calling your hope into existence that was unseen ------



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I wouldn't be so sure about that ------

God Spoke Faith words and created this earth and all in it -------Are we not made in God's image -----God called those things that be not as though they were ---------and we are made in God's image as per scripture ------

God's Faith creates ------we confess our Faith by speaking words that we are Saved -----and then believe we are saved -----your Faith words bring the unseen into this seen realm --------

Hebrews 11:1 ESV
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.


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From Strong's Concordance

"Faith is the divinely given conviction of things unseen"

Faith is the organ which enables people to see the invisible order

Scriptural faith is not our ability to ‘count it done,’ but is the deep consciousness divinely imparted to the heart of man that it is done, .

Faith is always a response to a divine revelation"

i say
Here you have Elijah speaking Faith words that there will be a drought -------He was calling those things that be not as though they were and it came to pass ------God's faith words create -----


1 Kings 17

New International Version

Elijah Announces a Great Drought
17 Now Elijah the Tishbite, from Tishbe[a] in Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the Lord, the God of Israel, lives, whom I serve, there will be neither dew nor rain in the next few years except at my word.”

I say -----Jesus understood the power of words -----He spoke to a thing ---a tree --fig tree and killed it dead ----and then said to the Disciples ---if you have Faith you can SAY __to this Mountain go throw yourself into the sea and if you believe ---it will be done ------so you can move mountains by speaking faith words ------

there is creative divine power in words folks -----positive words bring positive results ----negative words bring negative results -----

You’re taking some scripture out

And your severely downgrading God's word ---and How His Faith Works -----so sad for you ------so believe as you will and limit yourself in your own theology -----

You don't want to know the truth ---you just want to be right ---so sad for you ----

I guess you have never hoped for a thing in your life -----as when you hope for a thing --that is in the future ----your hope is unseen ---you tell your friends what your hoping for----and you get your hope manifested in this physical realm -----your calling your hope into existence that was unseen ------



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In your previous reference to Elijah, he accomplished that because God directly told him to. He couldn’t have done that out of the blue without God directly telling him to. Hey if God directly tells you to command the weather, have at it. If you truly think you can do that on your own, please keep the weather channel on live stream 24/7 so you can make the blasted hurricanes and tornados and floods go another direction from civilization.

Also why didn’t you speak those wildfires in Hawaii and Canada out of existence? Not very loving of you.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

And your severely downgrading God's word ---and How His Faith Works -----so sad for you ------so believe as you will and limit yourself in your own theology -----

You don't want to know the truth ---you just want to be right ---so sad for you ----

I guess you have never hoped for a thing in your life -----as when you hope for a thing --that is in the future ----your hope is unseen ---you tell your friends what your hoping for----and you get your hope manifested in this physical realm -----your calling your hope into existence that was unseen ------



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Also there are huge droughts around the world. Could you PLEASE speak some plant life into existence, possibly some cows too, if they like beef. Or pizza if they like takeout.

The fact you do none of this, proves my point, and proves the point even you don’t believe this nonsense.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

Also there are probably some hospitals and nursing homes in your area. No they won’t let you in to personally pray for them, but get this, in scripture Jesus healed people who weren’t even expecting it. So please do the suffering in hospitals near you some good, and speak their mass healing into existence. Jesus did it even when they didn’t expect it or think he could. You’re made in his image, please do the same.

 

[Cameron143]

You’re severely hyper-extending the created in God’’s image idea. Might as well say we can blow on dirt and create life. After all, that’s what God did and we are created in his image.

Didn't someone preach to some dry bones?

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

Didn't someone preach to some dry bones?

Again, not done out of the blue without GOD’S direction. It was GOD’S direct word, not the prophet snagging a verse out of the blue, and using it to manipulate reality without God’s direct say so.

I challenge you to also please, stream the weather channel 24/7 so you can speak dangerous weather away from harming people. If that IS what you truly believe this power can do.

 

[Eli1]

Hi there @Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia .
Are you an American Protestant in Cyprus? What are you doing there?
Also, what are you doing up at like 4:30AM in the morning?

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

Hi there @Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia .
Are you an American Protestant in Cyprus? What are you doing there?
Also, what are you doing up at like 4:30AM in the morning?

Feel free to direct message me for a personal conversation if that’s what you want. This isn’t the place to hijack a thread.

 

[Eli1]

Feel free to direct message me for a personal conversation if that’s what you want. This isn’t the place to hijack a thread.

I don't have private message but send me one if you have them. I think you do have them because you paid and expected some VIP treatment in return.

 

[Eli1]

Also, refer to this thread for the correct usage of the word PM vs DM.

PM vs DM - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

I don't have private message but send me one if you have them. I think you do have them because you paid and expected some VIP treatment in return.

Check out your profile, I just posted there.

 

[Cameron143]

Again, not done out of the blue without GOD’S direction. It was GOD’S direct word, not the prophet snagging a verse out of the blue, and using it to manipulate reality without God’s direct say so.

I challenge you to also please, stream the weather channel 24/7 so you can speak dangerous weather away from harming people. If that IS what you truly believe this power can do.

I'm just having a little fun with you. Studentoftheword said in his earlier post that it was always predicated on divine revelation.

 

[Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia]

I'm just having a little fun with you. Studentoftheword said in his earlier post that it was always predicated on divine revelation.

Depends on what that means. Does it mean you can snag some divine revelation from scripture and manipulate a chosen reality with it? Nope.

If that’s what it means I know plenty of verses one could apply to bad weather. Something even the Apostle Paul didn’t do.

 

[Cameron143]

Depends on what that means. Does it mean you can snag some divine revelation from scripture and manipulate a chosen reality with it? Nope.

If that’s what it means I know plenty of verses one could apply to bad weather. Something even the Apostle Paul didn’t do.

That's not what is being said. And if God does impress a particular verse upon your heart or brings understanding of a particular situation, it will come to pass.
But again...I was just jesting. Most of the verses I read were using life and death as a metaphor for blessing or hurt.