I had a Dream from the Lord last Night..!

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brighthouse98

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I wish to thank my brothers and sisters for their comments! I agree the next time I believe I have received something from the Lord I will be most careful in how I word this to you all!!!
 
hornetguy

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Lynx said:
It's like predicting my 91 year old grandmother will not raise any more children.

I know it for a fact, because I had a dream about her deciding to not have any more kids. Yup. :geek:
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Well, she COULD adopt, you know...... just sayin....
 
Moses_Young

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shittim said:
How can you tell him how he should post when you think the earth is flat?:unsure::)
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Scripture is very clear about blasphemy, and ensuring we do not say "The Lord says" when the Lord did not say. Refer to my previous post from Deuteronomy. I don't think that was the OP's intent (he in a later post was asking for confirmation if anyone had a similar dream), but look at the title "I had a dream from the Lord". It is very dangerous ground to make such a claim, in my opinion.

On the other matter, if you go through the bible, you'll find it better supports a Flat Earth view than a Heliocentric view (which was really only popularised in the last 500 years or so, to establish the Big Bang theory and Evolutionism). But even if I'm wrong on Flat Earth (and I'm pretty sure I'm not), I'd much sooner stand before God having been wrong about this (given it's scriptural support), than wrong about claiming a dream was from Him that turned out to be false.
 
shittim

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You earned the red x, dear brother.
Deuteronomy is OT, the law was made null with the acceptance of Christ, he is NOT the Creator who hides behind the cloud waiting for us to mess up so He can skewer us with a lightening bolt.
That is fear, and that is from the adversary, and also from leaning on our own faulty understanding, which He CLEARLY has commanded we DO NOT do.
We are required to take EVERYTHING to Him and He will guide us in ALL truth.

Ephesians on is pretty much where we are now.
2 of the gospels even say in the 1st chapter, "this was written so you would know who Jesus is", after 2,000 years we pretty much know who He is.
bless you, friend.:)(y):unsure::coffee:
 
Moses_Young

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shittim said:
You earned the red x, dear brother.
Deuteronomy is OT, the law was made null with the acceptance of Christ, he is NOT the Creator who hides behind the cloud waiting for us to mess up so He can skewer us with a lightening bolt.
That is fear, and that is from the adversary, and also from leaning on our own faulty understanding, which He CLEARLY has commanded we DO NOT do.
We are required to take EVERYTHING to Him and He will guide us in all truth.
bless you, friend.:)(y):unsure::coffee:
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I agree that the OT has been fulfilled in Christ. But remember Christ's command about adultery? Not only should one not take his neighbour's wife, even entertaining the thought of it by a lustful look is as bad as adultery. And murder? Not only is it a sin to murder thy neighbour, it is the same sin to be angry enough to murder him. Do you somehow envisage that God's expectations around murder and adultery have increased (actually not increased - just revealed to us more of His high standards), but not His expectations about using His Most Holy Name? I'm not saying these sins are not forgiven in Christ for those of us who believe, but it doesn't mean these things are not sins. And I don't also profess that I never sin in this way - perhaps I do, and if so, I hope someone will confront and correct me, as ResidentAlien had the courage to do with the OP.

But saying God says, when God hasn't said, is using His name in vain - blasphemy. And God doesn't get it wrong, so if someone says God said, and it doesn't come to pass... blasphemy.
 
shittim

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You don't know if his dream was or was not of the Lord, our dreams are from either the enemy, our own mind, or from the Lord, Job 33 tells us He is speaking to us all the time, we just don't perceive it, once we do perceive Him communicating we can grow,
bless you brother, nice hat too, by the way.:)
 
Moses_Young

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shittim said:
You don't know if his dream was or was not of the Lord, our dreams are from either the enemy, our own mind, or from the Lord, Job 33 tells us He is speaking to us all the time, we just don't perceive it, once we do perceive Him communicating we can grow,
bless you brother, nice hat too, by the way.:)
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Have a read of this passage again. If the dream were from the Lord, it would come true. Not come false.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
 
Lynx

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Moses_Young said:
Have a read of this passage again. If the dream were from the Lord, it would come true. Not come false.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
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Some prophets like to hedge their bets though, by not putting a timestamp on it.

"I foresee the stock market will fall!" 17.2 years later the stock market dips a quarter: "See? This is what I SAID would happen!"

But this prophecy is even safer. This one is like me prophesying I will eat lunch today, and some chocolate. Ain't saying how much chocolate compared to how much lunch.
 
Moses_Young

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Some prophets like to hedge their bets though, by not putting a timestamp on it.

"I foresee the stock market will fall!" 17.2 years later the stock market dips a quarter: "See? This is what I SAID would happen!"

But this prophecy is even safer. This one is like me prophesying I will eat lunch today, and some chocolate. Ain't saying how much chocolate compared to how much lunch.
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But he committed to a date, no? Kinda a bad bet when you think about it, 'cause everyone is expecting Biden to drop out - just a question of when - or if he dies or gets sent to gaol first - in which case I'm sure the "prophecy" would be reinterpreted. But August 8th was so soon...

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Aug 8th!!! Remember that day!! I saw in my dream that Joe Biden would announce that he would not run again for President of this United States!! We will see!!!
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shittim

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His dreams require we go to Him for the meaning, they are most often not straight forward, in Daniel we see the teaching of this where King Neb..... asked, "does not the meaning of the dream belong to the author of the dream"?
Also, our God is a God of love, He did not create us to punish us.
Many churches teach faith as a list of does and don'ts , it is relationship all the time 24/7/365.
blessings to you brother:)
Really like the hat:)(y):unsure::coffee:
 
shittim

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So, are either of you guided by your Lord and Savior to trash a believer? :unsure::)
 
Moses_Young

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shittim said:
So, are either of you guided by your Lord and Savior to trash a believer? :unsure::)
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As stated, blasphemy is a serious sin. As are adultery and murder. We're not called to overlook sin in fellow believers. Following Jesus is not about being nice. Sometimes, it's unpleasant to be corrected. But correction is the loving action, and ignoring the sin is actually a lack of love.
 
Lynx

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shittim said:
His dreams require we go to Him for the meaning, they are most often not straight forward, in Daniel we see the teaching of this where King Neb..... asked, "does not the meaning of the dream belong to the author of the dream"?
Also, our God is a God of love, He did not create us to punish us.
Many churches teach faith as a list of does and don'ts , it is relationship all the time 24/7/365.
blessings to you brother:)
Really like the hat:)(y):unsure::coffee:
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So you're saying Moses was right and a reinterpretation is perfectly okay.

Kinda reminds me of when Jesus didn't return in 1988, and the author of the "88 reasons" book rewrote it to 89 reasons Jesus will probably come back in '89.
 
shittim

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He said, leaning on his own understanding, which we are guided to NOT do?:unsure::)
 
Lynx

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shittim said:
He said, leaning on his own understanding, which we are guided to NOT do?:unsure::)
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I see you're still addicted to question marks, aren't you?

You do realize putting a question mark at the end of a statement doesn't make it a question, right?

Are you practicing for when you run for state senate? Indemnity and deniability are downright awesome, ain't they?
 
shittim

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Moses_Young said:
As stated, blasphemy is a serious sin. As are adultery and murder. We're not called to overlook sin in fellow believers. Following Jesus is not about being nice. Sometimes, it's unpleasant to be corrected. But correction is the loving action, and ignoring the sin is actually a lack of love.
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It is IF it occurred, and that is NOT your, my or anyone's position to determine, you, i or anyone.
We are to encourage one another, not what has taken place here.

best wishes:)
 
Lynx

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shittim said:
It is IF it occurred, and that is NOT your, my or anyone's position to determine, you, i or anyone.
We are to encourage one another, not what has taken place here.

best wishes:)
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Encouragement can be a bad thing. We all know that guy who will encourage you to jump off the roof with a bedsheet parachute.

Be careful what you encourage. You might have to live with it later.
 
brighthouse98

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Many moons ago when I first became a believer, a woman came up to me and said the Lord has told her that I was to go to Africa to preach the word of God I thanked her for her faith in her Word. A few weeks went by, and she returned to our Church to ask me why I was still here?? Being full of Holy Spirit, I told her the following."

Dear sister the Lord has not reveled this to me, and as the Word of God says (2 Cor 13:1) every fact shall be confirmed by the testimony of two or three witnesses. And I am waiting upon the Lord for this to become confirmed. Do not be sad dear sister for you used your faith! I do not condemn you being wrong, I rather commend you for using the faith the Lord has given you, for each of us has been given a measure of faith (Rom 12:3).

You see brothers and sisters we do not rebuke faith being used; we rather encourage others in their faith. The Lord alone does the judging we are not here to judge but rather encourage one another in our faith. Blessing be unto you!!(1 Thess 5:12-15)
 
ResidentAlien

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brighthouse98 said:
Many moons ago when I first became a believer, a woman came up to me and said the Lord has told her that I was to go to Africa to preach the word of God I thanked her for her faith in her Word. A few weeks went by, and she returned to our Church to ask me why I was still here?? Being full of Holy Spirit, I told her the following."

Dear sister the Lord has not reveled this to me, and as the Word of God says (2 Cor 13:1) every fact shall be confirmed by the testimony of two or three witnesses. And I am waiting upon the Lord for this to become confirmed. Do not be sad dear sister for you used your faith! I do not condemn you being wrong, I rather commend you for using the faith the Lord has given you, for each of us has been given a measure of faith (Rom 12:3).

You see brothers and sisters we do not rebuke faith being used; we rather encourage others in their faith. The Lord alone does the judging we are not here to judge but rather encourage one another in our faith. Blessing be unto you!!(1 Thess 5:12-15)
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I'm going to encourage you to study God's word more closely and stop listening to the people who are filling your head with nonsense.
 
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