Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5 said:
Be careful of false Messiahs.
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Especially those who claim to be of God. They are the most dangerous ones.

Again, mammon worship, cheating workers, abandoning the poor/sick/foreign, self- idolatry, and embracing lies and hypocrisies are NOT Christian values. But they are the republican platform points.

The fruit of the Holy Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. You'd be hard pressed to find any of that going on in maga circles.

The dumbocrats don't claim to be of God. People here don't need convincing of that.

But they sure need their eyes opened to the republiecans.
 
JTB said:
But they are the republican platform points.
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I think you need to get around a little sir. Broaden your scope of scrutiny, because the Dims are truly horrific in that regard just the same. They talk a good game, but their actions betray their hearts.
 
cv5 said:
I think you need to get around a little sir. Broaden your scope of scrutiny, because the Dims are truly horrific in that regard just the same. They talk a good game, but their actions betray their hearts.
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And once again I will say,

THAT GOES FOR BOTH SIDES
 
JTB said:
And once again I will say,

THAT GOES FOR BOTH SIDES
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Let me make sure I understand what you are saying.

You are saying that both side, Democrats and Republicans are politicians and many of them, at least enough to pass legislation and get their way are bought and paid for by lobbyists?

You are telling me that the majority of these public servants are led by self interest rather than a calling to help society?

If that is true then McCarthy and McCain would be just as bad as Mitchell and Pelosi! The Bushes are just as bad as Obama/Clinton!
 
JTB said:
I'm not OK with any of this. That is why you won't find me supporting EITHER party. BOTH sides are crooked and need to go bye-bye!
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That's more the reason Trump is the good choice that God gives USA in this dangerous and precarious national and geopolitical moment that the Democrats have brought upon the nation and the world. Trump is the closest America has ever and will ever get to a third party or independent President that is just an all around pan-American embodiment and symbol of the Public. Trump is ideologically well poised to represent the Public-at-large and also pragmatically has the vetted experience and the larger than life personality that is required for the job and the moment. Even the election is basically once again Trump vs. the GOP vs the DNC. Three choices, two broad paths to hell, one narrow road to victory; TRUMP 2024 Save America PRAISE JESUS!
 
ZNP said:
Let me make sure I understand what you are saying.

You are saying that both side, Democrats and Republicans are politicians and many of them, at least enough to pass legislation and get their way are bought and paid for by lobbyists?

You are telling me that the majority of these public servants are led by self interest rather than a calling to help society?

If that is true then McCarthy and McCain would be just as bad as Mitchell and Pelosi! The Bushes are just as bad as Obama/Clinton!
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Now you're getting it
 
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BearerOfTheMorningStar said:
That's more the reason Trump is the good choice that God gives USA in this dangerous and precarious national and geopolitical moment that the Democrats have brought upon the nation and the world. Trump is the closest America has ever and will ever get to a third party or independent President that is just an all around pan-American embodiment and symbol of the Public. Trump is ideologically well poised to represent the Public-at-large and also pragmatically has the vetted experience and the larger than life personality that is required for the job and the moment. Even the election is basically once again Trump vs. the GOP vs the DNC. Three choices, two broad paths to hell, one narrow road to victory; TRUMP 2024 Save America PRAISE JESUS!
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God would not give us a mammon worshipper

God would not give us someone who cheats workers to enrich the rich

God would not give us an adulterer and child molester

God would not give us someone who abandons the poor, sick, and foreign to enrich the rich

God would not give us a self idolater

God would not give us someone who embraces lies and hypocrisy

God would not give us someone who does not bear the fruit of love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, gentleness, and self control.

God would not give us someone who embodies all the things He is not.

And God would not warn us about false prophets using His Name to lead us astray, if there were not false prophets using His Name to lead us astray

Ephphitha!
 
JTB said:
God would not give us someone who embodies all the things He is not.
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However, God has allowed evil rulership in the past and will allow it yet future. The future son of perdition aka anti-christ for example.

Lam 2:3
He hath cut off in his fierce anger all the horn of Israel: he hath drawn back his right hand from before the enemy, and he burned against Jacob like a flaming fire, which devoureth round about.
 
JTB said:
God would not give us a mammon worshipper

God would not give us someone who cheats workers to enrich the rich

God would not give us an adulterer and child molester

God would not give us someone who abandons the poor, sick, and foreign to enrich the rich

God would not give us a self idolater

God would not give us someone who embraces lies and hypocrisy

God would not give us someone who does not bear the fruit of love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, gentleness, and self control.

God would not give us someone who embodies all the things He is not.

And God would not warn us about false prophets using His Name to lead us astray, if there were not false prophets using His Name to lead us astray

Ephphitha!
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With what measure you measure it will be measured to you.

Are Americans mammon worshippers? If so God will give you one. Are they self idolaters? Do they embrace lies and hypocrisy?
 
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cv5 said:
However, God has allowed evil rulership in the past and will allow it yet future. The future son of perdition aka anti-christ for example.

Lam 2:3
He hath cut off in his fierce anger all the horn of Israel: he hath drawn back his right hand from before the enemy, and he burned against Jacob like a flaming fire, which devoureth round about.
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This is true.

Does that mean we are to support the son of perdition/antichrist?

Would you vote for him just because God allows him to take rule???

Is that not unlike sinning more so grace can abound more? (A la Romans 6:1)
 
ZNP said:
With what measure you measure it will be measured to you.

Are Americans mammon worshippers? If so God will give you one. Are they self idolaters? Do they embrace lies and hypocrisy?
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No argument there.

But again I ask, does this mean that as Christians we are to support them?
 
JTB said:
No argument there.

But again I ask, does this mean that as Christians we are to support them?
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We have slightly different views of what the Lord is doing. I see Trump as the jawbone of the ass in the hands of the strong man, Jesus Christ.

As Christians we look to Jesus for salvation. But as a sign of the day of the Lord, Trump is a sign of the coming recompense.

I see him as Jehu, the guy who will bring judgment on Jezebel.
 
JTB said:
God would not give us a mammon worshipper

God would not give us someone who cheats workers to enrich the rich

God would not give us an adulterer and child molester

God would not give us someone who abandons the poor, sick, and foreign to enrich the rich

God would not give us a self idolater

God would not give us someone who embraces lies and hypocrisy

God would not give us someone who does not bear the fruit of love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, gentleness, and self control.

God would not give us someone who embodies all the things He is not.

And God would not warn us about false prophets using His Name to lead us astray, if there were not false prophets using His Name to lead us astray

Ephphitha!
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Right we all know Biden, who has done all those things you list, rigged the election.

Now God gives us Trump to fix all that stuff and Save America 2024 PRAISE JESUS!
 
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