Demon possession in the old testament?
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no one said Angels had sex. a spirit can clearly, on free will of a host body/human, allow the spirit to go inside how spirits do and by this they also could plant a seed. it's immoral for Angels and humans to interact when they are to be Messengers and Servants. This is equal to Sodomy because it is not a natural thing to do. Angels and humans being a friend is unnatural, let alone, being given permission to plant Seed.
You act like before God made Earth and humans, All of Heaven did not know Angels are not allowed to interact but as Messengers of God to humans. They breached this Command!
You act like before God made Earth and humans, All of Heaven did not know Angels are not allowed to interact but as Messengers of God to humans. They breached this Command!
There is no validity to these claims, it makes zero sense that so many things have accurately survived a game of Chinese whispers from Enoch down to Moses and down to people who contradict the bible who were clearly not inspired to put the book/books of enoch together in a mish mash of uninspired writings. Obviously the book of Enoch copied verses from the bible not the other way round?
Another reason why God validates His prophets who in turn record the inspired Word in written format. Those who wrote the book of Enoch (who do you think wrote it?) have not been validated in any way whatsoever...
Another reason why God validates His prophets who in turn record the inspired Word in written format. Those who wrote the book of Enoch (who do you think wrote it?) have not been validated in any way whatsoever...
Dude, You are a Christian, not a Jew who has the Literature that connects how the Ancient Jews were taught and the Oral Traditions surrounding those teachings.
A Christian, literally has NO IDEA what ancient Hebrew life was like. It was nothing like when Jesus was on Earth, and nothing like it is now. So, you can only give answers based upon YOU LITERALLY GUESSING, because You don't know as a modern day Christian how they lived, what was the sayings back then or the attitudes of people. You don't know any of that until you read the collection of Jewish Literature.
A Christian, literally has NO IDEA what ancient Hebrew life was like. It was nothing like when Jesus was on Earth, and nothing like it is now. So, you can only give answers based upon YOU LITERALLY GUESSING, because You don't know as a modern day Christian how they lived, what was the sayings back then or the attitudes of people. You don't know any of that until you read the collection of Jewish Literature.
here is a good example of another Book not in the Bible: Jashar:
Look at this Verse closely:
And the sun stood still
And the moon halted,
While a nation wreaked judgment on its foes
—as is written in the Book of Jashar. Thus the sun halted in midheaven, and did not press on to set, for a whole day;
Look at this:
—as is written in the Book of Jashar.
Joshua, is saying the Book of Jasher PROPHESIED this Moment when :
And the sun stood still
And the moon halted,
The Book of Jashar, has a Prophecy that comes TRUE [During an Ancient Hebrew War Battle] [involving God to make the Sun stand still] and mentioned in the Bible as a Prophecy come True, but Voted not Inspired.
That's more of a head scratcher than accepting the Oral Traditions of Enoch.
Look at this Verse closely:
And the sun stood still
And the moon halted,
While a nation wreaked judgment on its foes
—as is written in the Book of Jashar. Thus the sun halted in midheaven, and did not press on to set, for a whole day;
Look at this:
—as is written in the Book of Jashar.
Joshua, is saying the Book of Jasher PROPHESIED this Moment when :
And the sun stood still
And the moon halted,
The Book of Jashar, has a Prophecy that comes TRUE [During an Ancient Hebrew War Battle] [involving God to make the Sun stand still] and mentioned in the Bible as a Prophecy come True, but Voted not Inspired.
That's more of a head scratcher than accepting the Oral Traditions of Enoch.
Remember God is the author of life itself! If angels are sexless, then why in the world would they want to marry (wives they took) daughters of men... they have no desire for such a woman. No sex drive guys!... It has to be the godly line and the godless line coming together to marry. Remember bloodline was everything in those days...
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Genesis 6:4, 4 The Nephilim (#H5303) were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons #H1121 of Elohim H430 came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, the men of name."
#H1121 - ben: son, Original Word: בֵּן, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: ben, Phonetic Spelling: (bane), Short Definition: sons
#H430 - elohim: God, god, Original Word: אֱלֹהִים, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: elohim, Phonetic Spelling: (el-o-heem'), Short Definition: God
“Nephilim” is word #H5303 נְפִיל nphiyl (nef-eel') n-m., נְפִל nphil (nef-eel'), (properly) a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant., [from H5307], KJV: giant, Root(s): H5307
Root word of “H5303 נְפִיל nphiyl” H5307 נָפַל naphal (naw-fal') v., to fall.
{in a great variety of applications (intransitive or causative, literal or figurative), [a primitive root], KJV: be accepted, cast (down, self, (lots), out), cease, die, divide (by lot), (let) fail, (cause to, let, make, ready to) fall (away, down, -en, -ing), fell(-ing), fugitive, have (inheritance), inferior, be judged (by mistake for H6419), lay (along), (cause to) lie down, light (down), be (X hast) lost, lying, overthrow, overwhelm, perish, present(-ed, -ing), (make to) rot, slay, smite out, X surely, throw down, See also: H6419
--------------------“Nephilim” is word #H5303 נְפִיל
Genesis 6:4, 4 There were giants H5303 in the earth H776 in those days H3117; and also after H310 that H3651, when H834 the sons H1121 of God H430 came in H935 unto the daughters H1323 of men H120, and they bare H3205 children to them, the same H1992 became mighty men H1368 which were of old H5769, men H582 of renown H8034."
Ezekiyl 28:13-19, “You were in Ĕḏen, the garden of the Most High. Every precious stone was your covering: the ruby, topaz, and diamond, beryl, shoham, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald and gold. The workmanship of your settings and mountings was prepared for you on the day you were created. You were the anointed keruḇ that covered. And I placed you, you were on the set-apart mountain of Yah. You walked up and down in the midst of stones of fire. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you. By the greatness of your trade you became filled with violence within, and you sinned. So I thrust you from the mountain of Yah, and I destroyed you, O covering keruḇ, from the midst of the stones of fire. Your heart was lifted up because of your loveliness, you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendour. I threw you to the earth, I laid you before sovereigns, to look at you. You profaned your set-apart places by your many crookednesses, by the unrighteousness of your trading. Therefore I brought forth fire from your midst. It has devoured you, and I turned you to ashes upon the earth before the eyes of all who see you. All who knew you among the peoples were astonished at you. Waste you shall be, and cease to be, forever.”
“You were the anointed keruḇ that covered”
“keruḇ” is word #H3742 כְּרוּב kruwb (ker-ooɓ') n-m., 1. a cherub. a created spiritual being having a various descriptions., 2. (apparently) a spiritual being created for a discrete purpose, thus differing from other cherubim in this manner., [of uncertain derivation], KJV: cherub, (plural) cherubims.
“You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you”
“unrighteousness” is word #H5766 עֶוֶל `evel (eh'-vel) n-e., עָוֶל `avel (aw'-vel)
(moral) evil., [from H5765], KJV: iniquity, perverseness, unjust(-ly), unrighteousness(-ly); wicked(-ness). , Root(s): H5765
“I threw you to the earth”
Revelation 12:7-9, “And there came to be fighting in the heaven: Miḵa’ĕl and his messengers fought against the dragon. And the dragon and his messengers fought, but they were not strong enough, nor was a place found for them in the heaven any longer. And the great dragon was thrown out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who leads all the world astray. He was thrown to the earth, and his messengers were thrown out with him."
Numbers 13:32-33, “And they gave the children of Yisra’yl a disturbing report of the land which they had spied out, saying, “The land through which we have gone as spies is a land eating up its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great size. And we saw there the Nephilim, (#H5303) sons of Anaq, (#H6061) of the Nephilim (#H5303). And we were like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and so we were in their eyes.”
Notice how not a single word of this was mine, it is what the Scripture says.
#H1121 - ben: son, Original Word: בֵּן, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: ben, Phonetic Spelling: (bane), Short Definition: sons
#H430 - elohim: God, god, Original Word: אֱלֹהִים, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: elohim, Phonetic Spelling: (el-o-heem'), Short Definition: God
“Nephilim” is word #H5303 נְפִיל nphiyl (nef-eel') n-m., נְפִל nphil (nef-eel'), (properly) a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant., [from H5307], KJV: giant, Root(s): H5307
Root word of “H5303 נְפִיל nphiyl” H5307 נָפַל naphal (naw-fal') v., to fall.
{in a great variety of applications (intransitive or causative, literal or figurative), [a primitive root], KJV: be accepted, cast (down, self, (lots), out), cease, die, divide (by lot), (let) fail, (cause to, let, make, ready to) fall (away, down, -en, -ing), fell(-ing), fugitive, have (inheritance), inferior, be judged (by mistake for H6419), lay (along), (cause to) lie down, light (down), be (X hast) lost, lying, overthrow, overwhelm, perish, present(-ed, -ing), (make to) rot, slay, smite out, X surely, throw down, See also: H6419
--------------------“Nephilim” is word #H5303 נְפִיל
Genesis 6:4, 4 There were giants H5303 in the earth H776 in those days H3117; and also after H310 that H3651, when H834 the sons H1121 of God H430 came in H935 unto the daughters H1323 of men H120, and they bare H3205 children to them, the same H1992 became mighty men H1368 which were of old H5769, men H582 of renown H8034."
Ezekiyl 28:13-19, “You were in Ĕḏen, the garden of the Most High. Every precious stone was your covering: the ruby, topaz, and diamond, beryl, shoham, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald and gold. The workmanship of your settings and mountings was prepared for you on the day you were created. You were the anointed keruḇ that covered. And I placed you, you were on the set-apart mountain of Yah. You walked up and down in the midst of stones of fire. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you. By the greatness of your trade you became filled with violence within, and you sinned. So I thrust you from the mountain of Yah, and I destroyed you, O covering keruḇ, from the midst of the stones of fire. Your heart was lifted up because of your loveliness, you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendour. I threw you to the earth, I laid you before sovereigns, to look at you. You profaned your set-apart places by your many crookednesses, by the unrighteousness of your trading. Therefore I brought forth fire from your midst. It has devoured you, and I turned you to ashes upon the earth before the eyes of all who see you. All who knew you among the peoples were astonished at you. Waste you shall be, and cease to be, forever.”
“You were the anointed keruḇ that covered”
“keruḇ” is word #H3742 כְּרוּב kruwb (ker-ooɓ') n-m., 1. a cherub. a created spiritual being having a various descriptions., 2. (apparently) a spiritual being created for a discrete purpose, thus differing from other cherubim in this manner., [of uncertain derivation], KJV: cherub, (plural) cherubims.
“You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you”
“unrighteousness” is word #H5766 עֶוֶל `evel (eh'-vel) n-e., עָוֶל `avel (aw'-vel)
(moral) evil., [from H5765], KJV: iniquity, perverseness, unjust(-ly), unrighteousness(-ly); wicked(-ness). , Root(s): H5765
“I threw you to the earth”
Revelation 12:7-9, “And there came to be fighting in the heaven: Miḵa’ĕl and his messengers fought against the dragon. And the dragon and his messengers fought, but they were not strong enough, nor was a place found for them in the heaven any longer. And the great dragon was thrown out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who leads all the world astray. He was thrown to the earth, and his messengers were thrown out with him."
Numbers 13:32-33, “And they gave the children of Yisra’yl a disturbing report of the land which they had spied out, saying, “The land through which we have gone as spies is a land eating up its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great size. And we saw there the Nephilim, (#H5303) sons of Anaq, (#H6061) of the Nephilim (#H5303). And we were like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and so we were in their eyes.”
Notice how not a single word of this was mine, it is what the Scripture says.
Yes but where did he get that from...
it came from Joshua 10:13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. So the sun stood still and the moon stayed in place until the nation of Israel had defeated its enemies. There are many books not inspired by God but written during that time..
it came from Joshua 10:13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. So the sun stood still and the moon stayed in place until the nation of Israel had defeated its enemies. There are many books not inspired by God but written during that time..
