There will be no Rapture!!!

[SavedByTheLord]

Harpazo/rapture = snatching the betrothed virgin to the Fathers house for the 7day (7 year) intimate "knowing".
Second Coming = wedding supper/feast where the already married Husband and Wife are the honored by the invited guests.

Until you comprehend this, you will be chasing your eschatological tail to infinity and beyond.

Jhn 3:29
He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

The church is not mentioned after Revelation 3, with the exception of Revelation 22:16 which is just a reference back to Revelation 1. The reason is quite clear - the church is raptured at Revelation 4. Note, it is after that the people appear in heaven during the tribulation in Revelation 3 through 19.

 

[cv5]

The church is not mentioned after Revelation 3, with the exception of Revelation 22:16 which is just a reference back to Revelation 1. The reason is quite clear - the church is raptured at Revelation 4.

Absolutely correct.
Deductive reasoning and carefully parsing the relevant passages is essential to rightly understand Scripture. This by God's design.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

The church is not mentioned after Revelation 3, with the exception of Revelation 22:16 which is just a reference back to Revelation 1. The reason is quite clear - the church is raptured at Revelation 4. Note, it is after that the people appear in heaven during the tribulation in Revelation 3 through 19.

those specific Churches mentioned in first 3 Chapters of Revelation, have dual meaning, and nothing what you are imagining.

those 7 Churches were the Churches Paul set up in Asia Minor and after Paul's death, went off the rails.

those 7 Churches were overseen in 96 AD by the Apostle John, [after his release from Patmos + after his Revelation and Vision of the Apocalypse], and his own Disciples like Polycarp, Ignatius, Papias, and others became Pastors and the Apostle John was Bishop over these 7 Churches and the ISSUES we read about for each Church was CORRECTED.

This was a Command of God for John to correct and John wrote about it.

And we know this, because Polycarp, Disciple of John, had a Disciple named Ireneus, and he wrote about this!

Now, there is another Meaning for the SINS of all 7 Churches listed and it connects to real SINS today + the 7 Churches represent the outline how the Flow of things are going to work, like no doubt, we are in a time much like we READ about in Laodecia.

But these Churches [[HAVE NOTHING]] to do with about this thinking the CHURCH is REMOVED like you are resolving it to be.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Now, there is another Meaning for the SINS of all 7 Churches listed and it connects to real SINS today + the 7 Churches represent the outline how the Flow of things are going to work, like no doubt, we are in a time much like we READ about in Laodecia.

LAODECIA: [Great Falling Away and Riding the Fence LUKEWARM] that is NOW!


See how the 7 Churches from 1 to 7 and the Sins and we can go back into history and see when the first Church Sins were on the Scene on Earth and like the 60's was definitely Philadelphus, or Brotherly Love, and now we are clearly in LAODECIA.

that means once the SIN Period of Laodecia is over, Tribulation begins!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

That's HOW "close" we are to Tribulation!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

and knowing that the AC won't "officially" take over until the Second Half of Tribulation, it's almost safe to conclude that is when the Gentile Reign ends and now comes the Jews back to Christ.

So, we can see we probably are here either all the way through, or definitely right up to the beginnings and just past a bit of WRATH, which is after mid point Tribulation.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

for all I know, Laodecia, could end at mid point Tribulation, because NOTHING is going to "stop" the Falling Away and the once Believers to walk away + fence riders and the Lukewarm. That kind of "SIN" mentality will surely last till the AC is in power.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

God sent a Delusion and peeps are Falling hard. No Way God is ending that before the AC is in Control.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

the ones who Fall Now and in Tribulation itself, most likely are going to be the beheaded after mid point Tribulation.
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That's probably God's Mercy at hand for the "fallen ones" who choose beheading.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

God sent a Delusion and peeps are Falling hard. No Way God is ending that before the AC is in Control.

a pre-trib Rapture would end God's Delusion He now has active. No Way He ends that by the mythical pre-trib Rapture.

God will CONTINUE to Delude people and let them Fall all the way till they get their heads chopped off. He won't wake them up before hand.

 

[Omegatime]

As one who desires the pre-tribulation rapture/resurrection I know after 4 decades of research it just cant be true.

My reasoning is simple as we are to seek the Day of the Lord and as Paul stated in 2 Thess 2 that the Day of the Lord cannot happen till the antichrist takes his seat in Temple of God

 

[Nehemiah6]

Just reported all of this massive persecution of the pre-tribbers on this thread. Totally unacceptable.

It just goes to show that Satan hates the idea of the salvation of the saints and particularly the Resurrection/Rapture and perfection of the Church. Because this is all purely by the grace of God and the finished work of Christ. God says that the saints will even judge angels.

 

[Omegatime]

2 Thess 2: 6 And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.

The most foolish understanding is to say the Holy Spirit is the restrainer. The Restrainer is the CHURCH

 

[Nehemiah6]

a pre-trib Rapture would end God's Delusion He now has active. No Way He ends that by the mythical pre-trib Rapture.

God does not delude His children. Which means that you are the deluded one. God says that He not only justifies the ungodly by His grace, but He also glorifies and perfects the saints by His grace. Do you even understand the grace of God?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I truly believe in my own spirit, that the Spirit of God is making me think that this Next Presidential Election, it will not matter who wins, or what they represent, but technology will be such a force and forced upon us that even a President cannot stop. Each President we've had that claimed to believe in God, attend Church while as an active President, has all made decision that went against the Word of God. So, it won't matter who wins, they will embrace this Technology, will be a driving force to go completely electric, will be introduced in many forms from using your mobile device to RFID Chip implants. But it's coming and it is coming fast.

I was born in the 60s.
Literally, before the Age of Technology, 1960's to 2,000, life seemed like there was so much time I could do anything.
since 2,000, life has passed me by so fast i have to look at pictures to remember if i did anything worthwhile.
and this coming Technology, it will be so advanced and speed life up so much, it will be MID POINT TRIBULATION before we know it!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

God does not delude His children. Which means that you are the deluded one. God says that He not only justifies the ungodly by His grace, but He also glorifies and perfects the saints by His grace. Do you even understand the grace of God?

Go Cry somewhere else, this is about a different Topic.

God did send a delusion for them to believe a lie.

and your point is they were not Believers to begin with.

i get it.

but not my point being made.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The most foolish understanding is to say the Holy Spirit is the restrainer. The Restrainer is the CHURCH

Who do you think was restraining Satan in the book of Job? And what did Michael say to Satan when disputing about the body of Moses? "The LORD rebuke thee". The Church consists of saved sinners, but the Lord God Almighty controls every evil spirit including Satan and the Antichrist.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Who do you think was restraining Satan in the book of Job? And what did Michael say to Satan when disputing about the body of Moses? "The LORD rebuke thee". The Church consists of saved sinners, but the Lord God Almighty controls every evil spirit including Satan and the Antichrist.

by your own words, you proved how we can go through the Tribulation unscaved.
God controls everything.
So, He controls how we survive because He controls the actions of Satan and evil spirits. [YOUR WORDS]

You have proven how we can go through the Tribulation unscaved!

 

[Nehemiah6]

You have proven how we can go through the Tribulation unscaved!

You are calling the saved "unsaved". What kind of nonsense is that? What is "unscaved"?

 

[bluto]

As one who desires the pre-tribulation rapture/resurrection I know after 4 decades of research it just cant be true.

My reasoning is simple as we are to seek the Day of the Lord and as Paul stated in 2 Thess 2 that the Day of the Lord cannot happen till the antichrist takes his seat in Temple of God

I totally agree with your reasoning that the "tip off" is the antichrist taking his seat in the temple claiming he is god. My question to you is how do you know the restrainer is the Church? From my study I believe the Holy Spirit is the restrainer.

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto