Question about The Masks

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NightTwister

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have noticed a few older people starting to wear masks again at the store. that makes sense. they may be immunocompromised and wanting to take every precaution they can. They likely watch tv a lot where the fear is being ramped up again for the fall shots. can't hurt to wear a mask when they are at a crowded store. hope they do not fall for the fear campaign again though.
Wearing a nice hat would be just as effective. But people should be able to do whatever they want.
 

JohnDB

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So I got a question....

Why do all the antimaskers behave like entitled karens?
 

ZNP

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All I remember is people acting like lunatics screaming at people who weren't wearing masks, I don't remember anyone doing the reverse. I saw a number of assaults on Youtube of people who weren't wearing a mask by someone then telling them to "put a mask on".
 

NightTwister

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So I got a question....

Why do all the antimaskers behave like entitled karens?
Do you even know what a Karen is? Karens are the force maskers who get in people's face for not wearing one and complaining to management if they see someone no wearing one. Those of us who don't want to wear a mask just want to be left alone. So, why do all force-maskers behave like entitled Karens?
 

JohnDB

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Do you even know what a Karen is? Karens are the force maskers who get in people's face for not wearing one and complaining to management if they see someone no wearing one. Those of us who don't want to wear a mask just want to be left alone. So, why do all force-maskers behave like entitled Karens?
Because the antimaskers are the ones who are infected...
 

LightOfMyLife

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I am sure many of us have seen people who have a mask on but not covering their nose below their mouth and chin. So they are not fully masked but insist that you wear one. They are not even wearing it correctly. The people who insist on wearing mask why are they so upset? If they have been vaccinated and the shots work, then why are they worried about us. I heard Meghan Kelly say she had the vaccine and still got Covid 4 times. She regrets getting the shots.
 

maxwel

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not buying that masks are totally ineffective. worked a stint at a distribution center with rubber conveyor belts running constantly. did not wear a mask at first but had to blow black out of the nose after the shifts. started wearing an n95 mask. At the end of the shift it was grey to black on the outside and still white on the inside. there were also no longer the black trails of accumulated dirt around the nostrils from breathing it in for hours. the masks prevent most of particulate matter from entering your beathing.

Seen people at the store have a big sneeze before in the right lighting and you could see a cloud of mist around them during the sneeze. The masks would be effective in keeping most of that particulate matter out of your lungs. Maybe the masks do not prevent some very small particles from getting through but they do prevent most of the dust and debris in the air from entering your respiratory system.

but everyone can make their own decisions. No one else at the warehouse wore a mask and they would be over the sinks blowing the black out of their noses after the shift. to each their own.
The argument isn't that masks do nothing, of any kind, ever, under any circumstances.
That isn't the claim.
Various kinds of cheap masks are effective at stopping various kinds of things.... just not the spread of airborne virus.

The claim against mask use is very specific:
MASKS DO NOT PREVENT TRANSMISSION OF AIRBORNE VIRUSES.

Many governments claimed masks DO prevent transmission of airborne viruses... but the scientific evidence, which is a very large body of data, shows the opposite.

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Current Scientific Data On Mask Use:

The Cochrane Study, the largest to date on the efficacy of masks to stop airborne viral transmission, was a massive study that collated 78 clinical trials, across multiple countries, with 610,872 participants.
It concluded that masks do nothing to stop transmission of airborne virus.

Excerpts:
Regarding surgical masks:
"The pooled results of RCTs (random clinical trials) did not show a clear reduction in respiratory viral infection with the use of medical/surgical masks. "
- No evidence they do anything whatsoever - in stopping the spread of airborne virus.
Regarding N95 masks:
"There were no clear differences between the use of medical/surgical masks compared with N95/P2 respirators in healthcare workers when used in routine care to reduce respiratory viral infection."
- The N95 mask is equally ineffective as a surgical mask - in stopping the spread of airborne virus.

LINK:
The Cochrane Study - Link:
It's not much fun to read, but here it is.



You guys have a great day.



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Eli1

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The Karen joke is usually funny on many occasions but i get that you folks who don't like masks are upset at the double standards of the liberals. I get it.
I'm also glad that you don't care about what people wear or do with their lives.
 

ZNP

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The Karen joke is usually funny on many occasions but i get that you folks who don't like masks are upset at the double standards of the liberals. I get it.
I'm also glad that you don't care about what people wear or do with their lives.
I think the difference is that some people are so religious about masks they will attack anyone who is unmasked, while those who are against mask mandates don't care if you wear a mask or not, they are simply strongly against a government mandate to wear a mask.

Some of the regulations were idiotic, like you had to wear a mask in a restaurant until you were at your seat, then you could take it off?!
 

maxwel

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Because the antimaskers are the ones who are infected...
Actual scientific data:
a.) Masks do not stop airborne transmission of viruses. (see post #269)
b.) People with previous covid vaccines may be MORE SUSCEPTIBLE to catching other variants. (see below)



The CDC recently published data, right on their website, stating that you may be MORE LIKELY to catch the new covid variant if you've had a previous covid vaccine.
So the previous vaccines seem to increase your chance of catching the latest strain of covid.

Umm.... this would seem to put vaccinated individuals into a higher risk group than the unvaccinated.


Here's some of the data:
https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/whats-new/covid-19-variant.html
"BA.2.86 may be more capable of causing infection in people who have previously had COVID-19 or who have received COVID-19 vaccines."

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Actual scientific data:
a.) Masks do not stop airborne transmission of viruses. (see post #269)
b.) People with previous covid vaccines may be MORE SUSCEPTIBLE to catching other variants. (see below)



The CDC recently published data, right on their website, stating that you may be MORE LIKELY to catch the new covid variant if you've had a previous covid vaccine.
So the previous vaccines seem to increase your chance of catching the latest strain of covid.

Umm.... this would seem to put vaccinated individuals into a higher risk group than the unvaccinated.


Here's some of the data:
https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/whats-new/covid-19-variant.html
"BA.2.86 may be more capable of causing infection in people who have previously had COVID-19 or who have received COVID-19 vaccines."

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to coin the old adage. the more injections; the more infections.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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So I got a question....

Why do all the antimaskers behave like entitled karens?

Post five videos of "karens" screaming at people wearing masks and I'll show you 20 videos of real karens screaming at people not wearing masks. Sorry, didn't happen.
 

NightTwister

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The Karen joke is usually funny on many occasions but i get that you folks who don't like masks are upset at the double standards of the liberals. I get it.
I'm also glad that you don't care about what people wear or do with their lives.
Are we supposed to care what people wear and what they do with their lives?
 

JohnDB

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I'm "fully vaccinated." I wore a mask everywhere it was legally required. I've had Covid 5 times. Care to explain?
So you admit you are usually infected...that's why they want you to wear a mask.