Transgender pain
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Except I don't think she really wants help (look at all her responses - no repentance). I think she's a fake that wants us to say "Okay, if it is really so painful for you, then you should become male." It's a tactic the LGBTQ+ does - set up a situation where people have to sympathize with their way. If you don't see that, then you're naïve.
I've lost patience with that group and how they periodically keep trying to push their narrative on here. If you don't like how I phrase things, then put me on ignore. I won't care.
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Reading through many of the posts, a couple of things seems obvious to me:
1. There is way more going on here than can be helped to any real degree on this thread. There are some deep-seated problems and professional help is necessary unless God does a miracle. A Christian counselor familiar with these issues would be most helpful.
2. Oftentimes, situations are made worse, not better, by well-intentioned people. Certainly a combination of love and truth are necessary for healing, but the misapplication of the two can easily exacerbate the problem. Discernment is necessary to know which and in what order and degree they should be applied.
Having shared this, it's ok to just say...I'm praying for you...to an individual. And if you aren't sure whether to make use of love or truth, the one that never fails is love.
1. There is way more going on here than can be helped to any real degree on this thread. There are some deep-seated problems and professional help is necessary unless God does a miracle. A Christian counselor familiar with these issues would be most helpful.
2. Oftentimes, situations are made worse, not better, by well-intentioned people. Certainly a combination of love and truth are necessary for healing, but the misapplication of the two can easily exacerbate the problem. Discernment is necessary to know which and in what order and degree they should be applied.
Having shared this, it's ok to just say...I'm praying for you...to an individual. And if you aren't sure whether to make use of love or truth, the one that never fails is love.
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Credibility:
Rather than humbly asking for prayer, or humbly asking for christian counseling, you've been on a Christian forum AGGRESSIVELY ARGUING AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS, to WIN your argument for non-Christian views...
that's not the behavior of someone seeking help.
Credibility Zero.
Your very first post was aggressive, demanding, and argumentative.
I'm not handing you a victim card when you gaslighting me with imaginary guilt.
Use that on someone else.
I'm sorry, but I don't see someone sincerely seeking prayer, or sincerely seeking help... I see someone, from their very first post, being argumentative, demanding, and aggressive.
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Honestly, I'm tired of holding back what I really feel. I don't like how the LGBTQ+ are corrupting the church. There are already gay pastors and in other positions of leadership in some of the churches. And they're telling KIDS that you don't have to be the gender you're born with and encourage them at the earliest ages.
And it seems even here, we're shamed to not speak out against it and not be allowed to be angry that this happening. So at this point, I don't care what anyone says anymore. I think a lot of the politeness is also virtue signaling: "Look at me! I can be cool about LGBTQ+ issues!" But I don't think you guys realize that the LGBTQ+ are counting on you to be polite and will try to shame you (as she tried with me) if you're upfront about their sin.
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Welcome, dear brother. I love you and I'm so glad that you know Jesus loves you.
This life is so very short. Just enough time to get things right with our maker. That is all that matters. We will get brand new perfect bodies shortly if we follow His plan. I will be your friend in this messed up and confusing world. Just trust that Jesus knows what kinds of situations can draw us closer to Him. We all need Him but some are too proud or overprivileged to know it. We don't want to be on that train.
God bless you and Godspeed dear friend and brother.
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“Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.”
This life is so very short. Just enough time to get things right with our maker. That is all that matters. We will get brand new perfect bodies shortly if we follow His plan. I will be your friend in this messed up and confusing world. Just trust that Jesus knows what kinds of situations can draw us closer to Him. We all need Him but some are too proud or overprivileged to know it. We don't want to be on that train.
God bless you and Godspeed dear friend and brother.
Matthew 5:5
“Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.”
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I don't think very many people here hold back much of anything. But I do think your anger is misdirected. We wrestle not against flesh and blood. Neither this individual, or any LGBTQ+ advocate are the real problem. The problem is spiritual. So, then, is the cure. Anger is only righteous when it addresses the real problem and is in defense of God.
I share your disdain for the perversion of the image of God in mankind. But God, in an instant, could destroy all the works of Satan. What if this individual's sin was lying? Would you be so outraged?
I share your disdain for the perversion of the image of God in mankind. But God, in an instant, could destroy all the works of Satan. What if this individual's sin was lying? Would you be so outraged?
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"if this individual's sin was lying? Would you be so outraged?"
I would be upset if they were ADVOCATING for the VIRTUE OF LYING.
That would be a clear problem.
That is what the LGBT community generally does.
Struggling with a sin, and wanting help, is one thing.
Advocating for a sin... that's another thing entirely.
That's all there is to it.
God Bless.
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I am sorry, but I was posting from work earlier today, so I did not have a lot of time to really read your responses.
You mentioned your Dad, and your Mom and her pedophile boyfriend. Is it safe to assume that your parents split when you were a child? If so, then which parent were you living with before you got adopted by your grandparents? I am just trying to put some pieces together in my mind.
Thank you.
You mentioned your Dad, and your Mom and her pedophile boyfriend. Is it safe to assume that your parents split when you were a child? If so, then which parent were you living with before you got adopted by your grandparents? I am just trying to put some pieces together in my mind.
Thank you.
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Hi, again.
I know, of a certainty, that God did not make a mistake when he created you the way that he created you.
However, I also agree that you did not create your own misery, but this does not mean that God did.
I am convinced that something happened in your early childhood that caused you to feel repulsed at being a female. I am not saying this in any sort of judgmental way, but rather out of compassion for you. I am hoping that you will relate to me what happened prior to you being 5 years old because there is something important in there somewhere.
I know, of a certainty, that God did not make a mistake when he created you the way that he created you.
However, I also agree that you did not create your own misery, but this does not mean that God did.
I am convinced that something happened in your early childhood that caused you to feel repulsed at being a female. I am not saying this in any sort of judgmental way, but rather out of compassion for you. I am hoping that you will relate to me what happened prior to you being 5 years old because there is something important in there somewhere.
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Something is definitely going on. I do not think that you are lying about your feelings at all, but, again, God did not make a mistake by creating you the way that he did. Something must have triggered these deep feelings inside of you as a child. I am hoping that you will continue to share with me things from your youth because something went wrong somewhere. Again, I am not saying these things to judge you. I am actually trying to help you, and I have been praying for you.
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Define "unsupportive".
I cannot speak for anybody else here, but I am truly trying to help you. I do believe that you are hurting, but that hurt had a starting point, and it was not when God made you as a female. Something must have happened in your early childhood. Was there something that made you feel that you would cope better as a male? Perhaps because other males in your life failed you when you needed them?
I am just asking.
I cannot speak for anybody else here, but I am truly trying to help you. I do believe that you are hurting, but that hurt had a starting point, and it was not when God made you as a female. Something must have happened in your early childhood. Was there something that made you feel that you would cope better as a male? Perhaps because other males in your life failed you when you needed them?
I am just asking.
It's not unusual for people to make allowance for their sin. But why the upset? For their sake? That's admirable. But just being upset? What purpose does this serve? I think people should share truth. I don't think we should be invested in whether it takes hold or not. We plant and water. God is responsible for results. God's word always meets with its intended results. Acceptance of God's word, then, isn't always God's goal. Some things are hard to hear and some truths will never be accepted. But I do believe our manner of delivering truth may give us future opportunities to share or possibly severely limit our ability to do so.
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We'd have to define how I'm using the word "upset."
The way I was using it, I just meant I'm unhappy about it.
I'm unhappy when I see people call evil good, and call sin virtuous.
I'm not enraged - who has time for that anyway, the culture is knee-deep in madness.
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But I'm certainly unhappy when people call evil good, and call good evil.
Aren't all Christians unhappy when they see that?
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The way I was using it, I just meant I'm unhappy about it.
I'm unhappy when I see people call evil good, and call sin virtuous.
I'm not enraged - who has time for that anyway, the culture is knee-deep in madness.
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But I'm certainly unhappy when people call evil good, and call good evil.
Aren't all Christians unhappy when they see that?
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This is usually what happens with text-based communications when you can't even see somone's body language.
Assuming she's genuine and If they want prayers, then they got prayers because suffering is something that everyone is dealing with.
But if you're asking me to put a Fork into my eyes because i see a Female who wants to be called Male ... i can't do that.
Respect each-other's free-will. It's as simple as that.
If you want to call yourself an elephant that's fine with me, just don't impose your language and mindset on me.
Assuming she's genuine and If they want prayers, then they got prayers because suffering is something that everyone is dealing with.
But if you're asking me to put a Fork into my eyes because i see a Female who wants to be called Male ... i can't do that.
Respect each-other's free-will. It's as simple as that.
If you want to call yourself an elephant that's fine with me, just don't impose your language and mindset on me.
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