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So...I share truth and that's pontificating and usurping spiritual authority. You share and that's what?
It isn't my intention to do either. I believe your intentions were for good, despite your assessment of my motives. I don't think your method was effective, and I believe you have limited your ability to be effective in the future.
It isn't my intention to do either. I believe your intentions were for good, despite your assessment of my motives. I don't think your method was effective, and I believe you have limited your ability to be effective in the future.
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You know there is a thing such as trying to give advice at the wrong time and that's what you're doing. When that happens nothing you say is helpful. AT ALL. So you're not as wise as you think you are.
I don't care about being effective in my own strength and mind. If God wants to use what I wrote, it WILL be effective and help the person it needs to no matter what you believe. So I'm not going to stop just because you threatened me with that.
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My my.
This is getting weird... and obtuse.
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Fun Analogies:
- When someone breaks into my house, and I know that somewhere in the far distance, Satan is probably behind it...
I don't call the police to arrest Satan.
- When I'm talking to someone, and they say something morally questionable, and I know somewhere in the far distance, Satan is probably behind it...
I don't ignore them, and start talking to Satan.
- Maybe you do that.
- Maybe when you're talking to someone, and they say something weird... you just start talking to Satan.
- Maybe you do that... but I don't really think that you do.
And To Clarify the Theology:
Just to be clear, if someone is in darkness, they are responsible, and culpable, for being in darkness.
WE ALL ARE.
We can have compassion for people in darkness.
We should have compassion for people in darkness.
Nonetheless, the fact that we can have compassion on a person, does not remove them from culpability.
People are responsible for their actions.
We can feel for them, and have compassion for them... but that doesn't negate their responsibility for their actions.
We are all culpable for our sin.
Jesus didn't die for me because everything is Satan's fault, and I'm not responsible.
Jesus died for me because I am a sinner, and I was culpable for my sin, and I was responsible... and Jesus stepped in.
We're all culpable... and Jesus is greater.
God Bless Brother.
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This is getting weird... and obtuse.
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Fun Analogies:
- When someone breaks into my house, and I know that somewhere in the far distance, Satan is probably behind it...
I don't call the police to arrest Satan.
- When I'm talking to someone, and they say something morally questionable, and I know somewhere in the far distance, Satan is probably behind it...
I don't ignore them, and start talking to Satan.
- Maybe you do that.
- Maybe when you're talking to someone, and they say something weird... you just start talking to Satan.
- Maybe you do that... but I don't really think that you do.
And To Clarify the Theology:
Just to be clear, if someone is in darkness, they are responsible, and culpable, for being in darkness.
WE ALL ARE.
We can have compassion for people in darkness.
We should have compassion for people in darkness.
Nonetheless, the fact that we can have compassion on a person, does not remove them from culpability.
People are responsible for their actions.
We can feel for them, and have compassion for them... but that doesn't negate their responsibility for their actions.
We are all culpable for our sin.
Jesus didn't die for me because everything is Satan's fault, and I'm not responsible.
Jesus died for me because I am a sinner, and I was culpable for my sin, and I was responsible... and Jesus stepped in.
We're all culpable... and Jesus is greater.
God Bless Brother.
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The world goes through a lot of weird phases but on a fundamental level this is a matter of respecting freedom and each other’s free will.
When I see a female who want me to call her a male, then I can’t do that because I’m not blind and I don’t live in the clown world.
So if you want prayers or to learn more about spirituality or God that’s great but I can’t call you a male during the process.
Again I’m not blind and I don’t live in the clown world.
When I see a female who want me to call her a male, then I can’t do that because I’m not blind and I don’t live in the clown world.
So if you want prayers or to learn more about spirituality or God that’s great but I can’t call you a male during the process.
Again I’m not blind and I don’t live in the clown world.
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It's an assumption on your part that I'm excusing anyone's behavior. But someone in darkness is a slave to sin. They can only excuse their behavior. Someone who has the Spirit dwelling in them has other options. And I continue to believe truth absent of love is ineffective.
I do agree it's probably unrealistic in a particular case of sin to consider Satan, but a consideration of spiritual warfare is apt to cause people to be more merciful, than less.
And, I agree that ultimately, her need is Jesus. I'm just not sure she has any better understanding of this now than before.
I do agree it's probably unrealistic in a particular case of sin to consider Satan, but a consideration of spiritual warfare is apt to cause people to be more merciful, than less.
And, I agree that ultimately, her need is Jesus. I'm just not sure she has any better understanding of this now than before.
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Welcome, dear brother. I love you and I'm so glad that you know Jesus loves you.
This life is so very short. Just enough time to get things right with our maker. That is all that matters. We will get brand new perfect bodies shortly if we follow His plan. I will be your friend in this messed up and confusing world. Just trust that Jesus knows what kinds of situations can draw us closer to Him. We all need Him but some are too proud or overprivileged to know it. We don't want to be on that train.
God bless you and Godspeed dear friend and brother.
Matthew 5:5
“Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.”
This life is so very short. Just enough time to get things right with our maker. That is all that matters. We will get brand new perfect bodies shortly if we follow His plan. I will be your friend in this messed up and confusing world. Just trust that Jesus knows what kinds of situations can draw us closer to Him. We all need Him but some are too proud or overprivileged to know it. We don't want to be on that train.
God bless you and Godspeed dear friend and brother.
Matthew 5:5
“Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.”
Actually despite me thinking I couldn't handle anything without compassion as it turns out I really enjoy the ones seriously considering my pain puzzle ect. So thank you for your questions and this one to answer will be therapeutic;
Yeah so my grandpa was so quiet he wasn't there, my grandmother did all the gaslighting. She would NOT let me get my side out, and I'm a direct vocal one lol. So when she didn't let me get my side out I would suffocate, almost like a type of dizziness, the type you get from having your problems buried alive.
To give you my most remembered example, of being gaslit... I came to her in the genuineness of my heart saying "I cannot control my anger I'm going commando on you"
She goes "haha you're naked"
Who does that? Commando had an obvious alternative definition and she thought it would be a good idea to humiliate me in my earnest heart
Yeah so my grandpa was so quiet he wasn't there, my grandmother did all the gaslighting. She would NOT let me get my side out, and I'm a direct vocal one lol. So when she didn't let me get my side out I would suffocate, almost like a type of dizziness, the type you get from having your problems buried alive.
To give you my most remembered example, of being gaslit... I came to her in the genuineness of my heart saying "I cannot control my anger I'm going commando on you"
She goes "haha you're naked"
Who does that? Commando had an obvious alternative definition and she thought it would be a good idea to humiliate me in my earnest heart
Sorry to hear that you're in pain Greyfray.
It's good to have you here. The bible tells us to bear one another's burdens (Galatians 6:2). Hopefully in some small way we'll help you to bear yours.
We live in a fallen world and many things can go wrong because it's a fallen world. The bible talks of a man born blind, I met a Christian lady who was born without arms, she learned to type with her feet and worked in a local government office. I don't doubt that your struggles are real and intense, but because they are less immediately obvious than the lady I mentioned above, some folks might struggle to understand or empathize with you. If you're trusting in God there's a good start. Sorry I can't be of more help at the moment, but again it's good to have you here. God Bless
It's good to have you here. The bible tells us to bear one another's burdens (Galatians 6:2). Hopefully in some small way we'll help you to bear yours.
We live in a fallen world and many things can go wrong because it's a fallen world. The bible talks of a man born blind, I met a Christian lady who was born without arms, she learned to type with her feet and worked in a local government office. I don't doubt that your struggles are real and intense, but because they are less immediately obvious than the lady I mentioned above, some folks might struggle to understand or empathize with you. If you're trusting in God there's a good start. Sorry I can't be of more help at the moment, but again it's good to have you here. God Bless
Hi there thank you for your interest in my life; I was adopted as soon as dcf was called basically. I was living with my mom and biological father, your question is interesting I actually don't know my guess is, once it became known that dude was a pedophile, she broke up and then found my dad but the court proceedings were still in progress so they lie detected my dad. So technically I was living with both parents when dcf was called over food. I was adopted by my dad's parents not my mom's.
I have an older brother too who was adopted by same grandparents. He is gay but doesn't believe I'm male so I don't talk to him. I currently don't speak to a single biological family member. I just did my will so I don't end up in some stupid purple floral vase.
I have an older brother too who was adopted by same grandparents. He is gay but doesn't believe I'm male so I don't talk to him. I currently don't speak to a single biological family member. I just did my will so I don't end up in some stupid purple floral vase.
Good morning.
I am sorry, but my schedule is off the charts today in that I am already committed to helping others until sometime late this afternoon or early this evening, so I will have to join this conversation again later today. Until then, I am hoping that you will answer the following questions for me as directly and as thoroughly as you possibly can.
1. I am assuming that DCF stands for the Department of Children and Families. If so, then who called them?
2. How old were you when they were called?
3. Were they only called because of the lack of food issue? I ask because they seemingly determined that your mother's ex-boyfriend was a pedophile, and that seems strange to me if the investigation only concerned food or the lack thereof. In other words, if the only issue was food, then why did they not just give your parents food stamps or something to alleviate that problem?
4. Unless I am misunderstanding you, you said that your biological father was given a lie detector test in relation to possible pedophilia, and that is why he avoided playing with you as a child. Why would he be given such a test if the issue was only food-related?
5. You admitted to still having Dad issues. Can you elaborate on that?
I will tell you why I am asking. I have personally dealt with many gays, lesbians, transgenders, etc. over the years, and I have found, time and time again, that Dad issues are often the real root issue. You mentioned that your brother is gay, and that only adds to my curiosity about said Dad issues. In other words, almost every single gay guy I have met has admitted to having terrible relations with his father. As a result, I personally believe that they seek out another male figure in their lives to replace the relationship that they never had with their father.
In your case, I am admittedly wondering if your strong desires to be a man (you do not need to tell me that you are a man...I do not believe that, but I am trying to get to the root of why you believe that) might have something to do with the lack of a strong male figure in your own life. In other words, if you are desiring to be that strong male figure yourself because you were deprived of the same as a child in both your biological father and your grandfather.
6. I am still trying to figure out the chronological timeline here. It seems as if you are saying that your Dad refused to play with you as a child because of the pedophilia thing, but it also seems as if you are saying that the court proceedings were already in effect to have you removed from your biological family when the pedophilia incident was discovered. If this is the case, then how did it affect your Dad not playing with you prior to that time? Something is not adding up for me. I am not accusing you of lying, especially in that you do not seem to know some things about your own childhood, but I am just trying to get an accurate assessment of what truly transpired in your past in order to determine if that is what is controlling your present.
7. Do you currently have any contact with either your biological father or mother? If so, then what is that like?
8. How old are you now?
I probably have other questions as well, but I am severely strapped for time at the moment. If you would be kind enough to answer these questions to the best of your ability, then I would certainly appreciate it. Thank you, and you are still in my prayers.
I am sorry, but my schedule is off the charts today in that I am already committed to helping others until sometime late this afternoon or early this evening, so I will have to join this conversation again later today. Until then, I am hoping that you will answer the following questions for me as directly and as thoroughly as you possibly can.
1. I am assuming that DCF stands for the Department of Children and Families. If so, then who called them?
2. How old were you when they were called?
3. Were they only called because of the lack of food issue? I ask because they seemingly determined that your mother's ex-boyfriend was a pedophile, and that seems strange to me if the investigation only concerned food or the lack thereof. In other words, if the only issue was food, then why did they not just give your parents food stamps or something to alleviate that problem?
4. Unless I am misunderstanding you, you said that your biological father was given a lie detector test in relation to possible pedophilia, and that is why he avoided playing with you as a child. Why would he be given such a test if the issue was only food-related?
5. You admitted to still having Dad issues. Can you elaborate on that?
I will tell you why I am asking. I have personally dealt with many gays, lesbians, transgenders, etc. over the years, and I have found, time and time again, that Dad issues are often the real root issue. You mentioned that your brother is gay, and that only adds to my curiosity about said Dad issues. In other words, almost every single gay guy I have met has admitted to having terrible relations with his father. As a result, I personally believe that they seek out another male figure in their lives to replace the relationship that they never had with their father.
In your case, I am admittedly wondering if your strong desires to be a man (you do not need to tell me that you are a man...I do not believe that, but I am trying to get to the root of why you believe that) might have something to do with the lack of a strong male figure in your own life. In other words, if you are desiring to be that strong male figure yourself because you were deprived of the same as a child in both your biological father and your grandfather.
6. I am still trying to figure out the chronological timeline here. It seems as if you are saying that your Dad refused to play with you as a child because of the pedophilia thing, but it also seems as if you are saying that the court proceedings were already in effect to have you removed from your biological family when the pedophilia incident was discovered. If this is the case, then how did it affect your Dad not playing with you prior to that time? Something is not adding up for me. I am not accusing you of lying, especially in that you do not seem to know some things about your own childhood, but I am just trying to get an accurate assessment of what truly transpired in your past in order to determine if that is what is controlling your present.
7. Do you currently have any contact with either your biological father or mother? If so, then what is that like?
8. How old are you now?
I probably have other questions as well, but I am severely strapped for time at the moment. If you would be kind enough to answer these questions to the best of your ability, then I would certainly appreciate it. Thank you, and you are still in my prayers.
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I would offer a suggestion: If there is hate in your life from an early age, that usually points to spiritual problems such as spiritual oppression/possession. you really need to find a minister who believes in deliverance ministry & allow him/her & their prayer partners to pray for you.
In the bible there was a man in the NT that came to Jesus because his son was trying to destroy himself by throwing himself in the fire & the water. The dad said he has been doing this since a child, very young. In his situation, Jesus cast a demon out of him, & he was well again.
I'm not presumptuous about your situation, but I believe since hatred is involved, the problem is much more bigger than you imagine.
You need prayer for deliverance, without a doubt. I hope you find it. I'm praying for you right now.
In the bible there was a man in the NT that came to Jesus because his son was trying to destroy himself by throwing himself in the fire & the water. The dad said he has been doing this since a child, very young. In his situation, Jesus cast a demon out of him, & he was well again.
I'm not presumptuous about your situation, but I believe since hatred is involved, the problem is much more bigger than you imagine.
You need prayer for deliverance, without a doubt. I hope you find it. I'm praying for you right now.