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Bob-Carabbio

Bob-Carabbio

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JacobMartinMertens said:
This is an interesting response and causes me to think a particular way.

Jesus is the Unique One and Only Son of God. Some versions or translations of the Bible say that Jesus is the Only Begotten Son Of God. I don't know that I have ever said that I have been filled with God. But I do believe that if I am a true believer the Spirit of God dwells in me.
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WHich HE does, and spiritually we also dwell IN Jesus.

I don't believe that Jesus is playing a role.
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Jesus wasn't / Isn't playing a "ROLE". You're responding to a bunch of ignorant foolishness that has no merit whatsoever.

Jesus WAS, in the days of his flesh, fully human (even to the point of being TEMTPED in every respect AS WE ARE). He IS NOW in Heaven as a glorified HUMAN, as WE WILL BE, since we'll be like him in that time. (1 john 3:2).
 
JacobMartinMertens

JacobMartinMertens

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DJT_47 said:
Elders are leaders of the local congregations. Deacons, who do the mundane stuff, are under elders. The minister or preacher is also under the leadership of the elders. That's the extent of "hierarchy".
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Maybe this will help.

Matthew 23:8 NASB20 - "But as for you, do not be called Rabbi; for [only] One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers [and sisters.]
 
Cameron143

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JacobMartinMertens said:
Either Abraham saw God or he did not. God has not always been the Father of Jesus. Not until Jesus was born or conceived. However, God is the Father of all living. Jesus pre-existed but not as Jesus. We did not pre-exist.
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Jesus is from everlasting to everlasting. Whether we knew Him by that name is immaterial. And everyone knows Abraham saw God or He didn't. I'm asking which of the two is the case?
 
Magenta

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JacobMartinMertens said:
Jesus was entirely human.
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So much for you pretending to believe in His Deity while denying He is God. Your confusion
is fairly widespread. At least you are consistent in your self-contradictory ways.
 
The_Watchers_2017

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JacobMartinMertens said:
My point was not the name, but that you are a different person from your son if you have one.
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but that is your view, not what the Bible says when later we see His Disciples, or Paul call Him God.

His biologics are God and why they called Him God.

and when they called Him God, He would say Blessed are you who can SEE ME, but for someone like me, I have to wait to see Him, even though, I believe and have never saw what they saw in Him.
 
JacobMartinMertens

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The_Watchers_2017 said:
but that is your view, not what the Bible says when later we see His Disciples, or Paul call Him God.

His biologics are God and why they called Him God.

and when they called Him God, He would say Blessed are you who can SEE ME, but for me, I have to wait to see Him, even though, I believe and have never saw what they saw in Him.
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The name or what you call Him is immaterial. What matters is what is the truth.
 
The_Watchers_2017

The_Watchers_2017

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Bob-Carabbio said:
Jesus wasn't / Isn't playing a "ROLE". You're responding to a bunch of ignorant foolishness that has no merit whatsoever.

Jesus WAS, in the days of his flesh, fully human (even to the point of being TEMTPED in every respect AS WE ARE). He IS NOW in Heaven as a glorified HUMAN, as WE WILL BE, since we'll be like him in that time. (1 john 3:2).
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Who was Jesus before He became flesh?

why did He stop doing what He was doing and then came as Jesus?

He was doing one thing in Heaven and then did something entirely different on Earth.

God has 3 Functions :Father-Word-Holy Spirit: it's a Role in the framework of God!
 
The_Watchers_2017

The_Watchers_2017

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God is INVISIBLE
but when the INVISIBLE GOD wants to be with His Creation like human, the INVISIBLE GOD, comes as human.
it's a function of the framework in God and Who He is.
 
JacobMartinMertens

JacobMartinMertens

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The_Watchers_2017 said:
God is INVISIBLE
but when the INVISIBLE GOD wants to be with His Creation like human, the INVISIBLE GOD, comes as human.
it's a function of the framework in God and Who He is.
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John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.
 
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